and why Austin would confront him and try to get him out of there.Haleyscomet50 said:
If you have been to enough track meets you know why he was under tent.
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Agreed. When it goes longer than that, there should be a judge and a DA randomly selected for execution. From then on, the rest of them would start getting things done.sam callahan said:
The old days of tried and sentenced in a day or two was problematic, but we have gone way too far the other way.
There is no reason this case shouldn't be wrapped up in 3 weeks.
There had been prior concerns of theft at the meets per the coaches. Most of the kids are near the track to see their friends and teammates compete and prepare. The tents are off by themselves with the kids bags, phones, wallets, etc. That was why a larger Austin Metcalf was there to watch his teams stuff. It was why he more than likely was so confrontational when another kid, not in track gear, was at their tent.Haleyscomet50 said:Doesn't fit the agenda so the question won't be asked but why he was in the tent to begin with. If he was visiting a friend or knew another track team member it wouldn't have happened like that. Also if he had any reason to be under tent it would have already been discussed. If he was looking for trouble just to fight he would have brought other teammates with him maybe he did, hasn't been mentioned so I doubt it. Almost like he was on a solo mission of some sort. If you have been to enough track meets you know why he was under tent.Im Gipper said:
This whole "can't be under the tent" vs "its okay to be under the tent" is a complete red herring in my opinion.
Even is Anthony had a right to be there and Metcalf was completely out of line for telling him to leave, it does not change that Anthony murdered him with no basis to use deadly force as a defense of himself.
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I have only been to a handful of track meets in the cellphone era, none amongst the participants. But I do know that electronics are stolen out of team lockerrooms all the time. Sometimes by teammates and sometimes by people from other schools with access. It is a constant problem.Haleyscomet50 said:Im Gipper said:
If you have been to enough track meets you know why he was under tent.
If there was true justice, Karmelo would have no future. Up the steps, over the trap door, and through it. He killed someone. Matters not under whose tent or any of the side issues. He killed and needs to pay by being killed. And soon.MsDoubleD81 said:
Austin's future was wiped out in minutes. Karmelo's future - regardless of whether he is found guilty or acquitted - will never be the same.
Theft from team locker rooms has been happening for decades. And having a person stay back to watch over the locker room has been a solution for nearly as long.Ellis Wyatt said:I have only been to a handful of track meets in the cellphone era, none amongst the participants. But I do know that electronics are stolen out of team lockerrooms all the time. Sometimes by teammates and sometimes by people from other schools with access. It is a constant problem.Haleyscomet50 said:Im Gipper said:
If you have been to enough track meets you know why he was under tent.
Sure. Not disagreeing.ME92 said:Theft from team locker rooms has been happening for decades. And having a person stay back to watch over the locker room has been a solution for nearly as long.Ellis Wyatt said:I have only been to a handful of track meets in the cellphone era, none amongst the participants. But I do know that electronics are stolen out of team lockerrooms all the time. Sometimes by teammates and sometimes by people from other schools with access. It is a constant problem.Haleyscomet50 said:Im Gipper said:
If you have been to enough track meets you know why he was under tent.
His press conference was weird. He did say there was a lot of misinformation out there and to verify the source of the information before you share it because sharing false information in an attempt to help Karmelo Anthony did more harm than good. Very true.MsDoubleD81 said:
This was posted on Facebook.
Minister Dominique Alexander of the Next Generation Network in Dallas, TX, held a press conference today and spoke on behalf of Karmelo Anthony's family.
He pointed out the following facts in the case and stressed multiple times that "the lies have to stop."
These are the FACTS:
1. Austin and Karmelo did not know one another.
2. There was no previous fight at a party. There was no party, period.
3. There was no cell phone stomped on.
4. The Metcalf twins and Karmelo were members of their schools track teams; their names were on the roster that day.
5. The students were bused from their prospective schools to the track meet.
6. There were no substances found in Austin's body.
I implore each of you who attacked me saying I needed to dig deeper and look at the facts, to do the same.
Austin's family is suffering; Karmelo's family is suffering. None of them asked for any of this. Both young men had bright futures. Austin's future was wiped out in minutes. Karmelo's future - regardless of whether he is found guilty or acquitted - will never be the same.
#austinmetcalf #karmeloanthony #friscotx
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And then he had this quote after saying he cannot speak to why Karmelo Anthony had a knife at the track meet and saying he could not speak to that, "Karmelo Anthony from the beginning has continued to display his self defense claim and I believe that... in America I always tell this and I'm just going to speak truth to power in this situation. It is crazy that America tells us to accept the self defense claim of George Zimmerman, Kyle Rittenhouse, and so many other people but when the shoe is on the other foot, that claim is absurd. And I just gotta call a spade a spade. No matter what my personal views of the case may be, it is quite contradicting for America to come back and say, 'oh Kyle Rittenhouse can have it. George Zimmerman can have it.' All these individuals that do not look like the color of my skin can't have it."
Whenever people bring up Kyle Rittenhouse and George Zimmerman, I want to ask if Karmello was being chased by men with guns? Was he having his head bashed into the concrete? Also, do you believe George Zimmerman and Kyle Rittenhouse should be in jail? If no, then stop talking about them. If yes, why compare Karmelo to them and say he should not be in jail?
He'll probably get away with it. They'll get somebody on the jury to hang it.
Gotta love the spin not sure how Kyle and Geroge Zimmermans cases are even the same, Kyle killed a white pedo. You can't really live with the 13% even the ones in professional settings think all white people and the companies they work for are racist I have had them openly tell this to me.
big risk going to trial but you might be right, they did find OJ not guilty.Logos Stick said:
He'll probably get away with it. They'll get somebody on the jury to hang it.
But they had to change the location of the trial. I think Collin County is a big risk. If they get it moved to Dallas, I think he'd be a fool to take a plea deal rather than go to trial. In Collin County, take whatever deal they offer.
The only way he walks is jury nullification. The DA's office better be laser focused on jury selection. That is pretty much the only place this case could go off the rails.Logos Stick said:
He'll probably get away with it. They'll get somebody on the jury to hang it.
I would be copious in generating my preemptory strike reasons to negate any Batson challenges. But if that county truly only has 9% black residents, this should be a Lilly white jury.
chickencoupe16 said:I'm definitely not willing to assume this was premeditated murder. That doesn't mean that I am ruling it out nor that II wouldn't avoid him given the opportunity. It is not goal tending to point out that no one here actually knows what occurred.evestor1 said:
pretty sure one can assume it is for the 'hoping to kill someone'
no reason to goaltend for it on texags...just realize the dude was a wrong turn away from being like Thomas Johnson in this scenario and give your T&Ps
You can't assume it was premeditated?? Of course you can. This guy packed a knife, went and picked a fight by doing something highly inflammatory, and then quickly escalated to stabbing somebody in the heart when it was completely unjustified.
One can't even dream up a fictitious series of events that makes this accidental or spontaneous.
Logos Stick said:
He'll probably get away with it. They'll get somebody on the jury to hang it.
I bet it won't go to trial.
How would it not go to trial?
Plea it out.
no one with working brain cells thinks plunging a knife in someone's chest over where to sit is appropriate regardless of the victims or assailants race, you make a lot of assumptions here that couldn't be more wrong.Geminiv said:A Net Full of Jello said:His press conference was weird. He did say there was a lot of misinformation out there and to verify the source of the information before you share it because sharing false information in an attempt to help Karmelo Anthony did more harm than good. Very true.MsDoubleD81 said:
This was posted on Facebook.
Minister Dominique Alexander of the Next Generation Network in Dallas, TX, held a press conference today and spoke on behalf of Karmelo Anthony's family.
He pointed out the following facts in the case and stressed multiple times that "the lies have to stop."
These are the FACTS:
1. Austin and Karmelo did not know one another.
2. There was no previous fight at a party. There was no party, period.
3. There was no cell phone stomped on.
4. The Metcalf twins and Karmelo were members of their schools track teams; their names were on the roster that day.
5. The students were bused from their prospective schools to the track meet.
6. There were no substances found in Austin's body.
I implore each of you who attacked me saying I needed to dig deeper and look at the facts, to do the same.
Austin's family is suffering; Karmelo's family is suffering. None of them asked for any of this. Both young men had bright futures. Austin's future was wiped out in minutes. Karmelo's future - regardless of whether he is found guilty or acquitted - will never be the same.
#austinmetcalf #karmeloanthony #friscotx
Source: True Crime Momma
And then he had this quote after saying he cannot speak to why Karmelo Anthony had a knife at the track meet and saying he could not speak to that, "Karmelo Anthony from the beginning has continued to display his self defense claim and I believe that... in America I always tell this and I'm just going to speak truth to power in this situation. It is crazy that America tells us to accept the self defense claim of George Zimmerman, Kyle Rittenhouse, and so many other people but when the shoe is on the other foot, that claim is absurd. And I just gotta call a spade a spade. No matter what my personal views of the case may be, it is quite contradicting for America to come back and say, 'oh Kyle Rittenhouse can have it. George Zimmerman can have it.' All these individuals that do not look like the color of my skin can't have it."
Whenever people bring up Kyle Rittenhouse and George Zimmerman, I want to ask if Karmello was being chased by men with guns? Was he having his head bashed into the concrete? Also, do you believe George Zimmerman and Kyle Rittenhouse should be in jail? If no, then stop talking about them. If yes, why compare Karmelo to them and say he should not be in jail?
I don't think it's all just the legalities in question. They got the benefit of the doubt from the beginning of the situation from certain demographics. That same demographic is in a rush to judge in this scenario. Likely had Austin killed Karmelo. The general mood on this board would tend to be he deserved it. He had no right to make him leave his seat. We have to defend ourselves against these savages. The thug with no mannera had no business putting his hands on another kid. Same scenario different race this thread is a different tenor. Just my observation from reading this board regularly. You could say the inverse for the black community but they are likely not the majority on this forum.
shameful
That's such guessing. You assume that's what happened. There were tons on this board that thought Zimmerman was guilty. They were pissed about the verdict.
If you bring a knife on school grounds you are already committing a crime. What crimes were rittenhouse and Zimmerman committing? No matter the color a teen stabbing another teen at a school function I bet the discussion would look the same.
Dude wanted to be a badass and then looks like he had been crying in his mugshot. If you are going to do thug things don't be a little ***** when caught.
If you bring a knife on school grounds you are already committing a crime. What crimes were rittenhouse and Zimmerman committing? No matter the color a teen stabbing another teen at a school function I bet the discussion would look the same.
Dude wanted to be a badass and then looks like he had been crying in his mugshot. If you are going to do thug things don't be a little ***** when caught.
still dont' get the Rittenhouse comparison dude was being chased and had a skateboard being smashed over his head when did this bs get started?
Melo could have walked away or just used fists would have been broken up quickly but instead he chooses to use a knife.
Melo could have walked away or just used fists would have been broken up quickly but instead he chooses to use a knife.
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Killer culture that never holds itself accountable on anything.
Black men sure commit a lot of our crimes.
Because some people like to stir the pot. They have nothing else so they play the race card
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Tom Fox said:The only way he walks is jury nullification. The DA's office better be laser focused on jury selection. That is pretty much the only place this case could go off the rails.Logos Stick said:
He'll probably get away with it. They'll get somebody on the jury to hang it.
I would be copious in generating my preemptory strike reasons to negate any Batson challenges. But if that county truly only has 9% black residents, this should be a Lilly white jury.
Lots of south Asians too. Most everyone in Collin country, white or otherwise, probably thought they were relatively safe there. I cannot imagine a jury sympathetic to Anthony if the prosecutor does a competent job during voir dire.
MsDoubleD81 said:
Both young men had bright futures
You are insane if you actually believe this. Karmelo brought a weapon to a high school track meet. "Inmate of the month" was always going to be his ceiling
Deputy Travis Junior said:chickencoupe16 said:I'm definitely not willing to assume this was premeditated murder. That doesn't mean that I am ruling it out nor that II wouldn't avoid him given the opportunity. It is not goal tending to point out that no one here actually knows what occurred.evestor1 said:
pretty sure one can assume it is for the 'hoping to kill someone'
no reason to goaltend for it on texags...just realize the dude was a wrong turn away from being like Thomas Johnson in this scenario and give your T&Ps
You can't assume it was premeditated?? Of course you can. This guy packed a knife, went and picked a fight by doing something highly inflammatory, and then quickly escalated to stabbing somebody in the heart when it was completely unjustified.
One can't even dream up a fictitious series of events that makes this accidental or spontaneous.
Sure I can, but I'm unwilling to before the facts come out. Too much misinformation out there for me to be willing to make an assumption.
You can read the offense reports linked on this very thread. The facts will not deviate much from that. If you change your story now, those statements will be on police body cameras and a good lawyer will impeach the shlt out of you if you change very much.chickencoupe16 said:Deputy Travis Junior said:chickencoupe16 said:I'm definitely not willing to assume this was premeditated murder. That doesn't mean that I am ruling it out nor that II wouldn't avoid him given the opportunity. It is not goal tending to point out that no one here actually knows what occurred.evestor1 said:
pretty sure one can assume it is for the 'hoping to kill someone'
no reason to goaltend for it on texags...just realize the dude was a wrong turn away from being like Thomas Johnson in this scenario and give your T&Ps
You can't assume it was premeditated?? Of course you can. This guy packed a knife, went and picked a fight by doing something highly inflammatory, and then quickly escalated to stabbing somebody in the heart when it was completely unjustified.
One can't even dream up a fictitious series of events that makes this accidental or spontaneous.
Sure I can, but I'm unwilling to before the facts come out. Too much misinformation out there for me to be willing to make an assumption.
These stupid ass takes are coming from the same people who were all fired up about the rayciss notes that got left on that moron's windshield a few years ago.
Maybe not but there is literally no benefit to not assuming.Tom Fox said:You can read the offense reports linked on this very thread. The facts will not deviate much from that. If you change your story now, those statements will be on police body cameras and a good lawyer will impeach the shlt out of you if you change very much.chickencoupe16 said:Deputy Travis Junior said:chickencoupe16 said:I'm definitely not willing to assume this was premeditated murder. That doesn't mean that I am ruling it out nor that II wouldn't avoid him given the opportunity. It is not goal tending to point out that no one here actually knows what occurred.evestor1 said:
pretty sure one can assume it is for the 'hoping to kill someone'
no reason to goaltend for it on texags...just realize the dude was a wrong turn away from being like Thomas Johnson in this scenario and give your T&Ps
You can't assume it was premeditated?? Of course you can. This guy packed a knife, went and picked a fight by doing something highly inflammatory, and then quickly escalated to stabbing somebody in the heart when it was completely unjustified.
One can't even dream up a fictitious series of events that makes this accidental or spontaneous.
Sure I can, but I'm unwilling to before the facts come out. Too much misinformation out there for me to be willing to make an assumption.
backintexas2013 said:Logos Stick said:
He'll probably get away with it. They'll get somebody on the jury to hang it.
I bet it won't go to trial.
Why would murder not go to trial?
I can't remember the exact stat but I think about 90% of all criminal cases end in a plea bargain.
I'm not saying this is how I feel but with a person that's 17 the DA may not have the appetite to go full on max sentence. If they offer something like 20 years eligible in 10 maybe the guy takes it. The dad seems like he isn't out for blood and this may give the perp a chance to plead down.
I'm not saying this is how I feel but with a person that's 17 the DA may not have the appetite to go full on max sentence. If they offer something like 20 years eligible in 10 maybe the guy takes it. The dad seems like he isn't out for blood and this may give the perp a chance to plead down.
I fear you're going to get the Johnny Cochran "If I can just get one black juror on that jury we'll win."
If a black person is on the jury think about the peer pressure in their community to not convict.
If a black person is on the jury think about the peer pressure in their community to not convict.
Nah, that defense attorney will want to soak up every minute of this to make his career.backintexas2013 said:
I can't remember the exact stat but I think about 90% of all criminal cases end in a plea bargain.
I'm not saying this is how I feel but with a person that's 17 the DA may not have the appetite to go full on max sentence. If they offer something like 20 years eligible in 10 maybe the guy takes it. The dad seems like he isn't out for blood and this may give the perp a chance to plead down.
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