Colonel Kurtz said:

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Our nation is permanently screwed unless we can reverse this and not allow Whites to become minorities in our own lands.

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"Own lands?"

Didn't the gringos immigrate over here by boat and found there were others already living here?

I mean, maybe call England or Ireland or wherever your "own land," but this place was already occupied with others who called it their "own land" already.

No Spin Ag said:

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Colonel Kurtz said:

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Our nation is permanently screwed unless we can reverse this and not allow Whites to become minorities in our own lands.

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"Own lands?"

Didn't the gringos immigrate over here by boat and found there were others already living here?

I mean, maybe call England or Ireland or wherever your "own land," but this place was already occupied with others who called it their "own land" already.

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As did they in turn come here. Not even remotely interested in a government or party focused on the character of the past as something to impose on generations now.

Want a party and movement focused soley on securing the present and its gains and preserving it to pass on to the future.

No Spin Ag said:

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Colonel Kurtz said:

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Our nation is permanently screwed unless we can reverse this and not allow Whites to become minorities in our own lands.

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"Own lands?"

Didn't the gringos immigrate over here by boat and found there were others already living here?

I mean, maybe call England or Ireland or wherever your "own land," but this place was already occupied with others who called it their "own land" already.

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The land I own belongs to me whether or not it belonged to someone else before it was mine. And the reason I know that's true is that I can remove them/have them removed from it by force if they try to take it from me or move onto it.

The people you're talking about are conquered. The U.S. is MY homeland. This land is OUR land. If they don't think so, all they have to do is try and take it for themselves.

Generally speaking, the white Westerner lost religion and lost the meaning of life and decided they were just going to have fun and ****.

No Spin Ag said:

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Colonel Kurtz said:

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Our nation is permanently screwed unless we can reverse this and not allow Whites to become minorities in our own lands.

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"Own lands?"

Didn't the gringos immigrate over here by boat and found there were others already living here?

I mean, maybe call England or Ireland or wherever your "own land," but this place was already occupied with others who called it their "own land" already.

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Yes, they found nomadic Stone Age inhabitants scattered about and quickly assumed control of everything. It's been our own land for centuries.

747Ag said:

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Ag with kids said:

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747Ag said:

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We're doing our part... catching up to Dad-o-Lot in June.

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Ten?

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Yes.

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Cool. Me too.

I bought most of mine, though.

747Ag said:

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Ag with kids said:

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747Ag said:

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We're doing our part... catching up to Dad-o-Lot in June.

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Ten?

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Yes.

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They should call you the Semiduggars or Hemibates. Seriously, congrats.

No Spin Ag said:

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Colonel Kurtz said:

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Our nation is permanently screwed unless we can reverse this and not allow Whites to become minorities in our own lands.

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"Own lands?"

Didn't the gringos immigrate over here by boat and found there were others already living here?

I mean, maybe call England or Ireland or wherever your "own land," but this place was already occupied with others who called it their "own land" already.

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Don't leave Spain out of this...since you used the term "gringo"

javajaws said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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I volunteer to take on a Russian, Czech, Ukrainian harem to address this situation.

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Didn't name (european) Georgia, username does not check out.

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Gotta watch out, some of those Eastern Europeans are Muslim.

Restating from another thread-

We are losing America and The West in general primarily because of one thing-

birth control, including abortion

If you are on it, get off. Today.

If you attend a church that supports it, you are not in a Christ-loving church.

People don't want to talk about it. We've done terrible things.

Now we face it. Be the person God calls you to be.

Save the West.

93MarineHorn said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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Colonel Kurtz said:

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Our nation is permanently screwed unless we can reverse this and not allow Whites to become minorities in our own lands.

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"Own lands?"

Didn't the gringos immigrate over here by boat and found there were others already living here?

I mean, maybe call England or Ireland or wherever your "own land," but this place was already occupied with others who called it their "own land" already.

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Yes, they found nomadic Stone Age inhabitants scattered about and quickly assumed control of everything. It's been our own land for centuries.

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Yes, rational people would not want to return to the "noble savage" era of cannibalism, tribal hit and run rape and murder, slavery, famine, etc.

I mean, the Muslims do and much of the brown world is used to it, but not advanced Western cultures built by whites. Will be a rude awakening for the minority of brown/black people who enjoy Western cultures when whites lose their power and much of the planet returns to the old ways.

Bob Lee said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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Colonel Kurtz said:

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Our nation is permanently screwed unless we can reverse this and not allow Whites to become minorities in our own lands.

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"Own lands?"

Didn't the gringos immigrate over here by boat and found there were others already living here?

I mean, maybe call England or Ireland or wherever your "own land," but this place was already occupied with others who called it their "own land" already.

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The land I own belongs to me whether or not it belonged to someone else before it was mine. And the reason I know that's true is that I can remove them/have them removed from it by force if they try to take it from me or move onto it.

The people you're talking about are conquered. The U.S. is MY homeland. This land is OUR land. If they don't think so, all they have to do is try and take it for themselves.

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I see your point and you are not wrong.
However, Muslims are trying to conquer your land now. They have conquered Dearborn. MI and Minneapolis and maybe even Dallas TX (my birthplace).

infinity ag said:

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Bob Lee said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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Colonel Kurtz said:

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Our nation is permanently screwed unless we can reverse this and not allow Whites to become minorities in our own lands.

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"Own lands?"

Didn't the gringos immigrate over here by boat and found there were others already living here?

I mean, maybe call England or Ireland or wherever your "own land," but this place was already occupied with others who called it their "own land" already.

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The land I own belongs to me whether or not it belonged to someone else before it was mine. And the reason I know that's true is that I can remove them/have them removed from it by force if they try to take it from me or move onto it.

The people you're talking about are conquered. The U.S. is MY homeland. This land is OUR land. If they don't think so, all they have to do is try and take it for themselves.

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I see your point and you are not wrong.
However, Muslims are trying to conquer your land now. They have conquered Dearborn. MI and Minneapolis and maybe even Dallas TX (my birthplace).

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Not if voters make part of Abbott's re-election solely about such an expulsion. He seems on the right track currently, but need some of the judicial interference just rolled over and disregarded.

Ag with kids said:

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747Ag said:

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Ag with kids said:

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747Ag said:

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We're doing our part... catching up to Dad-o-Lot in June.

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Ten?

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Yes.

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Cool. Me too.

I bought most of mine, though.

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Mine are all from my wife's first marriage. lol

My cousin has a daughter who is early 20s.
She has 3 top ranked universities on her resume. I mean really top top. She is now at Harvard Med School.

I have never met her but I wonder about her future. She has among the best resumes I have seen but will she ever find a husband? Will she have to go downmarket for that (and not have any respect for him and maybe treat him shabbily)? Or will she remain single and claim men are scared of her? There aren't too many men with her kind of qualifications and her ceiling is high. Scary.

schmellba99 said:

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texagbeliever said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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This person had an interesting reply:

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These numbers are real but the interpretation is completely off.

Low birth rates in Europe aren't the result of replacement, mixing, or some secret agenda.

They're the result of Europeans themselves choosing fewer children because of:
high cost of living
late marriage
economic pressure
dual-income households
urbanization
career prioritization
social systems designed around individualism

That's demography, not destruction.

Meanwhile, high fertility countries are simply doing what every population has done in history when they're young: grow.

Human groups have expanded, collapsed, migrated, blended, and reshaped one another for 300,000 years.

There has NEVER been a permanent, isolated 'founding population.'
Every major civilization is the product of waves of migration and mixing.

Europe itself?
Celts Romans Goths Moors Vikings Slavs Normans Turks
There is no single 'original population.'
There never was.

And here's the key scientific point:

Demographic change does NOT erase people.
It creates new variations of people.

Skin tones shift. Languages shift. Cultures evolve.
That's exactly how every modern population was formed.

Calling this 'the end of the West' assumes that culture is static and biological but culture is learned, transmitted, and constantly reinvented.

And fertility collapse?

It's not racial.
It's economic.

South Korea, Japan, China all majority Asian have fertility LOWER than Europe.

By your logic, they should also be considered 'disappearing,' but we never frame it that way.

Why?
Because this isn't about race.
It's about modernity.

Migration isn't erasure.

It's the oldest human behavior on the planet.

Humans left Africa in multiple waves.
Humans mixed with Neanderthals.
Humans mixed across continents long before borders existed.

This moment in history is not an anomaly it's a continuation of what humans have always done.

Fear doesn't come from the numbers.

Fear comes from the belief that identity is fragile.

But identities evolve.
Cultures adapt.
People blend.
Humanity continues.

This isn't the 'end of the old world.'
It's the beginning of the next one just like every era before it.

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Cost of living is too high for kids. Checks countries with highest birth rates... all of those countries are comparatively far poorer then western countries. Look within the USA which groups are having the most kids; hint it isnt the wealthy.

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These two statements are in direct conflict with one another.

Which is it - cost of living is too high, or are the wealthy just not reproducing as much?

Honestly the "cost of living" argument doesn't hold that much water with me. It isn't a cost of living issue - it's a need to spend and the ability to spend 24/7 issue. Probably the single biggest difference between our generation now and our parents generation (for me anyway, I'm nearly 50 now so my growing up was in the 70's, 80's and 90's) is that my parents did not have the ability to spend money like I do today.

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If you read what I was responding to I think it is obvious that I am refuting that posters point that this is a cost of living issue.

infinity ag said:

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Bob Lee said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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Colonel Kurtz said:

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Our nation is permanently screwed unless we can reverse this and not allow Whites to become minorities in our own lands.

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"Own lands?"

Didn't the gringos immigrate over here by boat and found there were others already living here?

I mean, maybe call England or Ireland or wherever your "own land," but this place was already occupied with others who called it their "own land" already.

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The land I own belongs to me whether or not it belonged to someone else before it was mine. And the reason I know that's true is that I can remove them/have them removed from it by force if they try to take it from me or move onto it.

The people you're talking about are conquered. The U.S. is MY homeland. This land is OUR land. If they don't think so, all they have to do is try and take it for themselves.

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I see your point and you are not wrong.
However, Muslims are trying to conquer your land now. They have conquered Dearborn. MI and Minneapolis and maybe even Dallas TX (my birthplace).

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Yep.

No Spin Ag said:

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Colonel Kurtz said:

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Our nation is permanently screwed unless we can reverse this and not allow Whites to become minorities in our own lands.

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"Own lands?"

Didn't the gringos immigrate over here by boat and found there were others already living here?

I mean, maybe call England or Ireland or wherever your "own land," but this place was already occupied with others who called it their "own land" already.

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It is our "own land" because we conquered it

Bob Lee said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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Colonel Kurtz said:

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Our nation is permanently screwed unless we can reverse this and not allow Whites to become minorities in our own lands.

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"Own lands?"

Didn't the gringos immigrate over here by boat and found there were others already living here?

I mean, maybe call England or Ireland or wherever your "own land," but this place was already occupied with others who called it their "own land" already.

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The land I own belongs to me whether or not it belonged to someone else before it was mine. And the reason I know that's true is that I can remove them/have them removed from it by force if they try to take it from me or move onto it.

The people you're talking about are conquered. The U.S. is MY homeland. This land is OUR land. If they don't think so, all they have to do is try and take it for themselves.

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This land is your land, this land is my land
From California, to the New York Island
From the redwood forest, to the gulf stream waters
This land was made for you and me

My cousin's kid is trying to repopulate the world on her own. #3 is on the way with the third different baby daddy.

The first was Puerto Rican
The second was Caucasian (multiple suspects as far as paternity)
The third is alleged to be black, but knowing her it could come out any color at this point.

Adding, she also lives in subsidized housing, is on medicaid and SNAP, gets free dayare for the two on the ground, and treats the ER like it is her general practitioner.

I wish there was a program in place that would make her get her tubes tied to remain on government benefits.

They can't all be like dad-o-lot and 747Ag.

Waffledynamics said:

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Having kids is expensive/people don't make enough money to be financially stable, modern feminism has made dating difficult and made women hate men and commitment, and kids are socially stunted due to technology and Covid dysfunction.

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You're close, but not quite there yet. It isn't a specific "wave" of feminism that crosses the cultural rubicon, it's the entire premise.

The premise of feminism is to free women from cultural constraints. Specifically in these crosshairs within the west was the complimentarianism of the Bible and God's ordered design. Feminism is inherently rebellion against God's order as can be seen with their fights for abortion, free-love, no-fault divorce, family headship, and bread-winning.

Poor people having more kids disqualifies the economic argument; it's a prioritization issue. Modern women have been systematically moved fed a propaganda of selfishness which has twisted them into consumers. The measure of "success" for a modern women is her ability to avoid domestic service for her family, which is the through-line in these otherwise seemingly contradictory outcomes.

LOYAL AG said:

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That's all factually correct. The problem being highlighted in the OP post is that the west in its current position is the economic engine of the world and as our culture changes that engine is becoming increasingly strained to the point where it's going to collapse.

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From 454 to VW Beetle engine, circa 1950s

El Gato Charro said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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Colonel Kurtz said:

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Our nation is permanently screwed unless we can reverse this and not allow Whites to become minorities in our own lands.

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"Own lands?"

Didn't the gringos immigrate over here by boat and found there were others already living here?

I mean, maybe call England or Ireland or wherever your "own land," but this place was already occupied with others who called it their "own land" already.

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It is our "own land" because we conquered it

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2 kids and hopefully soon to be 3

Today's women basically want what men had.

Even the bad stuff (like being forced to go to work on toxic jobs).

Now they are complaining about it. Men just did their jobs silently, women wail.

Good.

Let's see how many women roar with no male help. I am sure it is 0.00001%.

infinity ag said:

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My cousin has a daughter who is early 20s.
She has 3 top ranked universities on her resume. I mean really top top. She is now at Harvard Med School.

I have never met her but I wonder about her future. She has among the best resumes I have seen but will she ever find a husband? Will she have to go downmarket for that (and not have any respect for him and maybe treat him shabbily)? Or will she remain single and claim men are scared of her? There aren't too many men with her kind of qualifications and her ceiling is high. Scary.

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Is she hot? Because that is all a man cares about. If she is hot enough a high value man will be willing to breed her.

The real problem is will hypergamy allow her to find an acceptable mate to her?

El Gato Charro said:

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doubledog said:

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So when whites become the minority, what will happen to DEI?

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DEI exists because whites are more intelligent, hold more positions of power, and are more affluent.

It has nothing to do with being a minority.

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DEI exists because small minded white liberals think that by selecting somebody based on anything but ability and intelligence, they are providing a service and a charity to the world. Or some other BS like that.

It exists because society has just about demonized any semblance of success based on capability, drive, ability to learn and innovate, etc. These things are largely looked down upon and instead a feel good replacement has invaded like a kudzu vine and now selection criteria has turned into skin color, axe wound or not, mental illness or not, etc. DEI is a cancer, and it will eventually kill the host like all cancers do.

infinity ag said:

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JWinTX said:

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Quite honestly, losing the Western Culture we knew for so long is going to be well-earned and well-deserved.

The Western culture turned its back on God, went away from marriage/family, became very career-oriented, which is another way of saying materialistic and selfish, then opened the door to Pandora's box by allowing all things deviantly sexual to be pervasive.

We deserve everything that will happen. We ran up debt for stupidity and greed, as well as power. We lowered education standards and entertainment standards to the LCD. Propaganda is "news".

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Nothing to do with God.

It is due to greed and stupidity. Plain and simple. And lack of common sense and foresight.
It is because of me me and more me. Not us.
Most people care only about themselves, not their kids of future grandkids. Most other cultures do.

It's funny when some here claim to have a superior culture, that their IQ is higher than some Asian people, etc. What good will that do when Muslims impose Shariah on us??

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I really feel sorry for you and how you view the world. You are possibly the most jaded and angry person on this site, and that includes a lot of very angry people.

schmellba99 said:

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El Gato Charro said:

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doubledog said:

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So when whites become the minority, what will happen to DEI?

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DEI exists because whites are more intelligent, hold more positions of power, and are more affluent.

It has nothing to do with being a minority.

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DEI exists because small minded white liberals think that by selecting somebody based on anything but ability and intelligence, they are providing a service and a charity to the world. Or some other BS like that.

It exists because society has just about demonized any semblance of success based on capability, drive, ability to learn and innovate, etc. These things are largely looked down upon and instead a feel good replacement has invaded like a kudzu vine and now selection criteria has turned into skin color, axe wound or not, mental illness or not, etc. DEI is a cancer, and it will eventually kill the host like all cancers do.

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Fortunately unlike cancer, it can possibly be removed wholesale by Gen Z and the ones after with minimal danger to the host if they will just opt to do so in sufficient numbers. Banishing the current crop of Academia and Media to collect early pensions would go a long way.

infinity ag said:

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My cousin has a daughter who is early 20s.
She has 3 top ranked universities on her resume. I mean really top top. She is now at Harvard Med School.

I have never met her but I wonder about her future. She has among the best resumes I have seen but will she ever find a husband? Will she have to go downmarket for that (and not have any respect for him and maybe treat him shabbily)? Or will she remain single and claim men are scared of her? There aren't too many men with her kind of qualifications and her ceiling is high. Scary.

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Is she hot?

Because I'm sure she can find a guy here on TexAgs...

I mean, if she's REALLY hot, I'd find a place for her to sit.

No Spin Ag said:

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Colonel Kurtz said:

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Our nation is permanently screwed unless we can reverse this and not allow Whites to become minorities in our own lands.

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"Own lands?"

Didn't the gringos immigrate over here by boat and found there were others already living here?

I mean, maybe call England or Ireland or wherever your "own land," but this place was already occupied with others who called it their "own land" already.

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Pssssttttttt.......there isn't a single place in this world where the people that reside there now have always resided there. Every square inch of this earth has been populated and repopulated multiple times over.

Those "others" that you speak of that called it their own land already? Yeah, they didn't just simply walk into a barren landscape - they conquered others, pushed them out, inter-procreated with them, etc. And the people before them did the same. And the people before them and the people before them. Go back however far you think you can go back, then go back more. It's always the same.

It is "our land" because our forefathers were better at fighting than the indians were and they won the battles and wars and conquered them. You don't have to like it, but that is the cycle of human existence going back to the Neanderthals and Denisovians and whatever race of humanoids came before them.

We gave 3.

texagbeliever said:

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schmellba99 said:

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texagbeliever said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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This person had an interesting reply:

Quote:

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These numbers are real but the interpretation is completely off.

Low birth rates in Europe aren't the result of replacement, mixing, or some secret agenda.

They're the result of Europeans themselves choosing fewer children because of:
high cost of living
late marriage
economic pressure
dual-income households
urbanization
career prioritization
social systems designed around individualism

That's demography, not destruction.

Meanwhile, high fertility countries are simply doing what every population has done in history when they're young: grow.

Human groups have expanded, collapsed, migrated, blended, and reshaped one another for 300,000 years.

There has NEVER been a permanent, isolated 'founding population.'
Every major civilization is the product of waves of migration and mixing.

Europe itself?
Celts Romans Goths Moors Vikings Slavs Normans Turks
There is no single 'original population.'
There never was.

And here's the key scientific point:

Demographic change does NOT erase people.
It creates new variations of people.

Skin tones shift. Languages shift. Cultures evolve.
That's exactly how every modern population was formed.

Calling this 'the end of the West' assumes that culture is static and biological but culture is learned, transmitted, and constantly reinvented.

And fertility collapse?

It's not racial.
It's economic.

South Korea, Japan, China all majority Asian have fertility LOWER than Europe.

By your logic, they should also be considered 'disappearing,' but we never frame it that way.

Why?
Because this isn't about race.
It's about modernity.

Migration isn't erasure.

It's the oldest human behavior on the planet.

Humans left Africa in multiple waves.
Humans mixed with Neanderthals.
Humans mixed across continents long before borders existed.

This moment in history is not an anomaly it's a continuation of what humans have always done.

Fear doesn't come from the numbers.

Fear comes from the belief that identity is fragile.

But identities evolve.
Cultures adapt.
People blend.
Humanity continues.

This isn't the 'end of the old world.'
It's the beginning of the next one just like every era before it.

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Cost of living is too high for kids. Checks countries with highest birth rates... all of those countries are comparatively far poorer then western countries. Look within the USA which groups are having the most kids; hint it isnt the wealthy.

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These two statements are in direct conflict with one another.

Which is it - cost of living is too high, or are the wealthy just not reproducing as much?

Honestly the "cost of living" argument doesn't hold that much water with me. It isn't a cost of living issue - it's a need to spend and the ability to spend 24/7 issue. Probably the single biggest difference between our generation now and our parents generation (for me anyway, I'm nearly 50 now so my growing up was in the 70's, 80's and 90's) is that my parents did not have the ability to spend money like I do today.

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If you read what I was responding to I think it is obvious that I am refuting that posters point that this is a cost of living issue.

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I didn't see that at first, but after re-reading it I see it now. My mistake. I was also, I suppose, agreeing with your premise.

schmellba99 said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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Colonel Kurtz said:

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Our nation is permanently screwed unless we can reverse this and not allow Whites to become minorities in our own lands.

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"Own lands?"

Didn't the gringos immigrate over here by boat and found there were others already living here?

I mean, maybe call England or Ireland or wherever your "own land," but this place was already occupied with others who called it their "own land" already.

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Pssssttttttt.......there isn't a single place in this world where the people that reside there now have always resided there. Every square inch of this earth has been populated and repopulated multiple times over.

Those "others" that you speak of that called it their own land already? Yeah, they didn't just simply walk into a barren landscape - they conquered others, pushed them out, inter-procreated with them, etc. And the people before them did the same. And the people before them and the people before them. Go back however far you think you can go back, then go back more. It's always the same.

It is "our land" because our forefathers were better at fighting than the indians were and they won the battles and wars and conquered them. You don't have to like it, but that is the cycle of human existence going back to the Neanderthals and Denisovians and whatever race of humanoids came before them.

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Much clearer, thanks.

So when whites eventually do get replaced, like has happened throughout history, to the new victors who do the replacing, this will now be their own land, like the cycle of history always shows to happen.

YouBet said:

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93MarineHorn said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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Colonel Kurtz said:

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Our nation is permanently screwed unless we can reverse this and not allow Whites to become minorities in our own lands.

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"Own lands?"

Didn't the gringos immigrate over here by boat and found there were others already living here?

I mean, maybe call England or Ireland or wherever your "own land," but this place was already occupied with others who called it their "own land" already.

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Yes, they found nomadic Stone Age inhabitants scattered about and quickly assumed control of everything. It's been our own land for centuries.

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Yes, rational people would not want to return to the "noble savage" era of cannibalism, tribal hit and run rape and murder, slavery, famine, etc.

I mean, the Muslims do and much of the brown world is used to it, but not advanced Western cultures built by whites. Will be a rude awakening for the minority of brown/black people who enjoy Western cultures when whites lose their power and much of the planet returns to the old ways.

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You really think every brown is going to let the failures of the gringos keep them from doing better than the gringos did?

How would that happen? Are browns incapable of doing what, per se, that only whites can do?

Also, by browns are you including Hispanics in that category?