***Iran [Military Action Thread]***[See Staff Note in OP]

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Who?mikejones!
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Raiderjay said:




Dont touch our boats
Deerdude
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If a blockade is a declaration of war, then it was committed when they shut the SOH. That simple
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Raiderjay said:



LOL.

Ok. You go ahead and do that, habib.
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DCPD158 said:

sts7049 said:

it's not fake news that ships can pass. it's a very difficult task to block 100%. have you looked at how many vessels are in the area?

massively restricting is good enough to be successful in a blockade

Any ship may pass through the SoH, unless they are leaving or transiting to Iranian ports. All Iranian ports are off limits.
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Kenneth_2003 said:

OldArmy71 said:

Why are we apparently letting ships pass through the blockade, at least according to that site quoted above?


According to Sal at What's Going On With Shipping...
They're hugging Italian, than Pakistani, then Indian territorial waters. Those that do that get tracked and we're stopping them in international waters or in the Strait of Mallaca

That would be quite a feat LOL!

I assume that should have been "Iranian".
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LMCane said:

let's go back to the way back machine:

didn't the Islamic Republic agree to OPEN THE STRAITS

in exchange for the IDF and the USAF and USN agreeing to stop blowing them to pieces?

Iran is a clown show now. They are actively crying foul and trying to get the poor me treatment from the world

They seriously are saying the blockade is illegal. What a bunch of idiots. You literally were the first ones to block the strait, then you fired off on ships and continue to do so, you also attacked countries not involved in the conflict. You used cluster bombs, All those things are illegal

Blockade is breaking the cease fire, REALLY?

Blockade is an act of war? We are at war dumbasses lol

this blockade is working better than I thought, it is seriously breaking them in to pieces
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Air defenses over Tehran going after surveillance drones. Sounds like we are gathering info for targets.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/iranian-media-says-air-defenses-shooting-at-drones-over-tehran/
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Have seen reports of this a few times over the last several days. Last night there was a lot more chatter about air defense activity. Seems to be happening again tonight.
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Or we're sending up some drones to see what if any air defenses respond.
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Believe we and the Israelis are getting ready to resume the war. Hopefully we find the remaining hard liners in a big meeting feeling safe. trump was having a meeting with war chiefs today in the white house.
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I mean a blockade IS an act of war. So, uh, they're not exactly wrong there. But I say double down. I'm fine with the current state but hope we can really turn the screws without endangering our personnel. We may have to and that's the nuts but don't let them off the mat.
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Quote:

FORMER FOREIGN MINISTER MOTTAKI SAYS: "A NAVAL BLOCKADE MEANS A DECLARATION OF WAR."

Man... nothing gets past this guy. Wonder what he thought all the bombs going off the entire month before the blockade might have been?
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agent-maroon said:

Quote:

FORMER FOREIGN MINISTER MOTTAKI SAYS: "A NAVAL BLOCKADE MEANS A DECLARATION OF WAR."

Man... nothing gets past this guy. Wonder what he thought all the bombs going off the entire month before the blockade might have been?


Like a little dog barking at the lion
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I just don't understand why they are upset that we are helping them block the SOH? Seems to me we doing them a favor now that they a little short on firepower.
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Deerdude said:

I just don't understand why they are upset that we are helping them block the SOH? Seems to me we doing them a favor now that they a little short on firepower.

They only want to block the ships that don't benefit them- when Trump turned it around and blocked their incoming containers and all oil going out it doesn't fit their plan. May get interesting again
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Israel deployed laser missiles to UAE.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israel-deployed-laser-system-in-uae-to-help-intercept-iranian-missiles-and-drones-report/
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The Fall Guy said:

Israel deployed laser missiles to UAE.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israel-deployed-laser-system-in-uae-to-help-intercept-iranian-missiles-and-drones-report/


Jews helping Muslims. Uniting the middle east with one common enemy (radical islam). This can be nothing but positive IMO.
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Anybody know what we need the hypersonic missiles for? Seems like we've pretty much been able to do whatever we want with the more conventional weapons. Are we just showing off?
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will25u said:



This is why we have not shot anybody in the straight yet. Trumps play is to claim that any new attacks are part of a new military operation and thus the 60 clock starts over.
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Quote:

This is why we have not shot anybody in the straight yet. Trumps play is to claim that any new attacks are part of a new military operation and thus the 60 clock starts over.

Why I said awhile ago that the War Powers Act likely does not apply to what was actually happening.
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Me thinks Trump is going to let the Israelis off their leash. No telling what new intel Mossad has gained over this operational pause. Oops, I meant "ceasefire".

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I think the Iranian faction negotiating with us is going to give us the locations of the competing factions. Similar to how the Cartels inform on their rivals.
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JB!98 said:

Me thinks Trump is going to let the Israelis off their leash. No telling what new intel Mossad has gained over this operational pause. Oops, I meant "ceasefire".



Seemed like they were setting up for this yesterday. Looks like we are going hot again.
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agent-maroon said:

Anybody know what we need the hypersonic missiles for? Seems like we've pretty much been able to do whatever we want with the more conventional weapons. Are we just showing off?

Longer range to get to eastern Iran without being too susceptible to air defenses.
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txags92 said:

agent-maroon said:

Anybody know what we need the hypersonic missiles for? Seems like we've pretty much been able to do whatever we want with the more conventional weapons. Are we just showing off?

Longer range to get to eastern Iran without being too susceptible to air defenses.

Cause we can
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txags92 said:

agent-maroon said:

Anybody know what we need the hypersonic missiles for? Seems like we've pretty much been able to do whatever we want with the more conventional weapons. Are we just showing off?

Longer range to get to eastern Iran without being too susceptible to air defenses.

What air defenses?
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fullback44 said:

Deerdude said:

I just don't understand why they are upset that we are helping them block the SOH? Seems to me we doing them a favor now that they a little short on firepower.

They only want to block the ships that don't benefit them- when Trump turned it around and blocked their incoming containers and all oil going out it doesn't fit their plan. May get interesting again

He was being sarcastic
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4 said:

txags92 said:

agent-maroon said:

Anybody know what we need the hypersonic missiles for? Seems like we've pretty much been able to do whatever we want with the more conventional weapons. Are we just showing off?

Longer range to get to eastern Iran without being too susceptible to air defenses.

What air defenses?

The ones that have been shooting at the surveillance drones over Tehran.
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Very smart of them to show us where the last remaining few are.

They won't be there much longer
LMCane
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4 said:

txags92 said:

agent-maroon said:

Anybody know what we need the hypersonic missiles for? Seems like we've pretty much been able to do whatever we want with the more conventional weapons. Are we just showing off?

Longer range to get to eastern Iran without being too susceptible to air defenses.

What air defenses?

from what I have seen these are anti-aircraft artillery pieces like Saddam used in Baghdad in 1991

not actual SAM batteries which we have destroyed all over the country.
LMCane
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The Fall Guy said:

Israel deployed laser missiles to UAE.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israel-deployed-laser-system-in-uae-to-help-intercept-iranian-missiles-and-drones-report/

as I work for that company a clarification:

they are not laser missiles

it is a system similar to Iron Dome (which uses Tamir missile interceptors and Green Pine radar) but Iron BEAM uses focused laser firing INSTEAD of actual missiles

it will not work well in heavy rain or very cold conditions.
fc2112
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Sounds like a pretty fascinating weapons system though. I figured it had limited effectivity.
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They employ a layered system, Iron Dome, Iron Beam, David's sling. It is all pretty cool, yes. The truth is much is manufactured in the US (Boeing/Northrop/Raytheon etc) as well of the interceptors themselves (Arrow 3), and we/they have been working to expedite production also. I think they make much of their own radars/tracking/guidance systems though.

The Israeli cooperation to share these systems with their arab neighbors is remarkable in this conflict, imho:

It was not too long ago that flights from Dubai to Tel Aviv were completely not allowed by the former.
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