https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/iran-judiciary-chief-says-tehran-rejects-policy-imposition-will-not-back-down-in-talks-with-us/

Iran does not welcome war but they wont back down with the US either.

WSJ is stating the obvious but it's still worth repeating. In the end, it's more than just a pain tolerance contest - it ends when someone is forced to blink.

WSJ: Iran Is Grasping for a Solution to an American Blockade It Can't Break

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The moderates believe in holding fire and negotiating a favorable deal with President Trump, whom they view as eager to get out of the messy war as soon as possible. They worry Iranians are growing tired of the conflict after an initial nationalist uptick.

"The regime has to do something to break this deadlock," Saeid Golkar, who studies Iran at the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga. "Moderates want a deal because they think more destruction is political suicide," he said.

A growing camp of hard-liners believe Iran has to take the military initiative and start a shooting war again to send oil prices soaring higher and increase the pressure on Trump. They argue that the blockade goes beyond the sanctions Iran has faced down in the past and amounts to an act of war that must have a military response.

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Iran is betting America will crack first and end its blockade of Iranian ports to calm global markets and bring down American gasoline prices. U.S. officials are betting that Iran will instead relent because of the deepening economic crisis.

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The very first plane that resumed service to Tel Aviv after the "ceasefire"

was an Etihad Airliner direct from Dubai.

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I think the 43k is crap, but I have no doubt quite a few were killed. They were probably the people who would be leading/participating in a revolt right now if it was happening.

benchmark said:

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WSJ is stating the obvious but it's still worth repeating. In the end, it's more than just a pain tolerance contest - it ends when someone is forced to blink.

WSJ: Iran Is Grasping for a Solution to an American Blockade It Can't Break

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The moderates believe in holding fire and negotiating a favorable deal with President Trump, whom they view as eager to get out of the messy war as soon as possible. They worry Iranians are growing tired of the conflict after an initial nationalist uptick.

"The regime has to do something to break this deadlock," Saeid Golkar, who studies Iran at the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga. "Moderates want a deal because they think more destruction is political suicide," he said.

A growing camp of hard-liners believe Iran has to take the military initiative and start a shooting war again to send oil prices soaring higher and increase the pressure on Trump. They argue that the blockade goes beyond the sanctions Iran has faced down in the past and amounts to an act of war that must have a military response.

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Iran is betting America will crack first and end its blockade of Iranian ports to calm global markets and bring down American gasoline prices. U.S. officials are betting that Iran will instead relent because of the deepening economic crisis.

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We need to focus on opening the strait, that should be our top goal right now. We need to accelerate the mine clearing, then provide air support to blow any Iranian speed boat out of the water. We also need to seriously get other countries to help with escorts, Trump should have already been doing this, and no, lashing out and bad mouthing those countries is not asking. I understand calling out some of them like Italy and Spain, they did us wrong with denying air space and using OUR bases, there was no reasoning to do that

It would be pretty funny and maybe a good idea, if we let the Iranian tankers through and sold the oil to countries in need, keep the money for Iran after the regime falls for their rebuild. IDK how possible that is, just a crazy idea on my part

The number of oil tankers that have been successfully redirected back to Iran with their crude oil cargo continues to rise.#OOTT #IranWar #Tankers

— TankerTrackers.com, Inc. (@TankerTrackers) May 1, 2026

Wouldn't that be piracy? That oil has been bought & paid for so we would technically stealing their customer's oil & money, no?

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benchmark said:

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WSJ is stating the obvious but it's still worth repeating. In the end, it's more than just a pain tolerance contest - it ends when someone is forced to blink.

WSJ: Iran Is Grasping for a Solution to an American Blockade It Can't Break

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The moderates believe in holding fire and negotiating a favorable deal with President Trump, whom they view as eager to get out of the messy war as soon as possible. They worry Iranians are growing tired of the conflict after an initial nationalist uptick.

"The regime has to do something to break this deadlock," Saeid Golkar, who studies Iran at the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga. "Moderates want a deal because they think more destruction is political suicide," he said.

A growing camp of hard-liners believe Iran has to take the military initiative and start a shooting war again to send oil prices soaring higher and increase the pressure on Trump. They argue that the blockade goes beyond the sanctions Iran has faced down in the past and amounts to an act of war that must have a military response.

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Iran is betting America will crack first and end its blockade of Iranian ports to calm global markets and bring down American gasoline prices. U.S. officials are betting that Iran will instead relent because of the deepening economic crisis.

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We need to focus on opening the strait, that should be our top goal right now. We need to accelerate the mine clearing, then provide air support to blow any Iranian speed boat out of the water. We also need to seriously get other countries to help with escorts, Trump should have already been doing this, and no, lashing out and bad mouthing those countries is not asking. I understand calling out some of them like Italy and Spain, they did us wrong with denying air space and using OUR bases, there was no reasoning to do that

It would be pretty funny and maybe a good idea, if we let the Iranian tankers through and sold the oil to countries in need, keep the money for Iran after the regime falls for their rebuild. IDK how possible that is, just a crazy idea on my part

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Opening the strait will be a difficult task and probably would require boots on the ground in Iran to some extent.

However the Iranian strategy in the next phase of the war would be much expansive in scope in driving the price of oil up higher, which would mean hurling their missiles at any and all regional oil facilities (perhaps minus Saudi facilities in order to keep Pakistan on the sidelines). It wouldn't be just bottling up the strait.

Do not underestimate Iranian capabilities to hurt the world economy in such an unbearable way that it'd force us to come to the table. Prolonged $150-$200 oil prices would certainly prove unbearable.

not that i've seen, but i'm not sure we would announce it if we found them. it would validate iran's posturing about mining the strait.

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Iran has a new proposal.... lol

The only proposal we want from Iran is "We accept the US proposal"

BREAKING: Iranian state media says Iran has sent its latest proposal for the US to Pakistani mediators.

US oil prices are falling on the news.

— The Kobeissi Letter (@KobeissiLetter) May 1, 2026

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Any deal made will not be honored, they have shown this during the cease fire.

I am surprised Trump is considering anything they send

We just need to finish them off, open the strait ourselves and mow the grass

Is he considering it? I haven't heard him say that but I could have missed it.

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I think the 43k is crap

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Why?

Have you seen different numbers from a more reliable source that would lead you to believe these are false?

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Is he considering it? I haven't heard him say that but I could have missed it.

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I mean he is at least entertaining them and telling them it is not good enough from what I gather. I could be reading in to it wrong

Would that be considered considering it? Or just reviewing them

Idk I just wouldn't trust them. He keeps saying we do not know who is in charge, just now he said they are getting different offers from different people or leaders.

I am guessing the political wing is sending theirs and the IRGC leaders are sending theirs. Pretty messy situation

Kill off the IRGC leaders, they seem to be the problem

I think it would be foolish to not even look at or read what they're offering. Might show you how far apart you are and signal you to go ahead and start bombing again.

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https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/iran-judiciary-chief-says-tehran-rejects-policy-imposition-will-not-back-down-in-talks-with-us/

Iran does not welcome war but they wont back down with the US either.

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No problem. Kill all of the theocrats and irgc, which overlap. Take out whatever targets are necessary to accomplish that.

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JB!98 said:

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Me thinks Trump is going to let the Israelis off their leash. No telling what new intel Mossad has gained over this operational pause. Oops, I meant "ceasefire".

🚨BREAKING: IRAN AIRSPACE EMPTIED pic.twitter.com/PSKHGjAGdN

— The Middle East (@A_M_R_M1) April 30, 2026

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Seemed like they were setting up for this yesterday. Looks like we are going hot again.

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Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think this means anything. I would guess that it's looked something like this during the whole ceasefire. Some British Airways pilot isn't going to fly over Tehran.

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🚨 BREAKING

🇮🇷 IRAN WILL REMOVE THE U.S. BLOCKADE BY MILITARY FORCE.

FORMER FOREIGN MINISTER MOTTAKI SAYS: “A NAVAL BLOCKADE MEANS A DECLARATION OF WAR.”

"OUR FIGHTERS MAY ACT AS SOON AS TOMORROW OR NEXT WEEK"

THIS IS EXTREMELY BAD FOR THE MARKETS! pic.twitter.com/yoYSAkYWgb

— Wimar.X (@DefiWimar) April 30, 2026

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LOL.

Ok. You go ahead and do that, habib.

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I can't stop laughing!

Trump confirms weapons were sent to Kurdish fighters in Iraq’s Sulaymaniyah and says, “We’ll see who has them,” adding: “I’m not happy with what happened with the Kurds. They did not deliver the weapons.”

— Joseph Haboush (@jhaboush) May 1, 2026

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let's go back to the way back machine:

didn't the Islamic Republic agree to OPEN THE STRAITS

in exchange for the IDF and the USAF and USN agreeing to stop blowing them to pieces?

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No deal will be made unless it includes iran giving up their nuclesr fuel and means of enrichment, period.

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Trump confirms weapons were sent to Kurdish fighters in Iraq’s Sulaymaniyah and says, “We’ll see who has them,” adding: “I’m not happy with what happened with the Kurds. They did not deliver the weapons.”

— Joseph Haboush (@jhaboush) May 1, 2026

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Confusing. Meaning it was expected the Kurds would deliver weapons into interior of Iran to Iranians?

Correct there were multiple reports of this including incursions directly into Iran from Kurdish areas. And I suspect those were supposed to go into areas with known Kurdish and other secretarian resistance groups. The Kurds were always going to skim some of those. But all of them? Poor decision.

14 Revolutionary Ghad dead blowing up un expoaded ordinance.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/detonation-of-unexploded-bombs-in-iran-reportedly-kills-14-revolutionary-guards/

Sounds like Trump turned down the latest Iranian proposal also

If it was a cluster bomb doesn't that indicate an Iraqi dud rocket?

And time

[Take the political commentary to a different thread. We're keeping this one cleaned up for discussion of the ongoing military conflict, cease fire, and negotiations to end the conflict. Timeouts incoming for those who insist on derailing this thread with political commentary -- Staff]

According to the Wall Street Journal, citing people familiar with the matter, Iran has allowed for more leeway on their terms for negotiations with the U.S. over a lasting ceasefire agreement. Per the report, Iran has dropped the precondition that the U.S. end the blockade of the… pic.twitter.com/2w3EO2Cb7t

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) May 1, 2026