Is this much different than Lindsey Graham a US Senator traveling to meet numerous times with BiBi N. to discuss how to "present" their intelligence to the US President to entice him to attack Iran?

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Is this much different than Lindsey Graham a US Senator traveling to meet numerous times with BiBi N. to discuss how to "present" their intelligence to the US President to entice him to attack Iran?

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Well, let's see... even accepting your premise that it happened that way... meeting with an ally vs meeting with a state sponsor of terrorism in order to undermine the president...

Yes. Even accepting your own premise, that is much different.

Yes. The only similarity is that Graham is also a sitting US Senator. Other than that, it's got nothing to do with the other.

Just checking in.

How’s your flotilla?

Has it sailed yet?? https://t.co/kDAaIuTZKQ

— Ari Fleischer (@AriFleischer) April 20, 2026

This could almost fit in the 'funny political tweet' thread imho.

So we are ok with a US Senator traveling and meeting with a foreign leader to discuss and encourage military action on the behalf of our country? As long as they are our ally? Who determines the ally list? The senator?

Seems like we have someone that is not a US Senator that is appointed and approved by the Senate that's responsible for anything like this?

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So we are ok with a US Senator traveling and meeting with a foreign leader to discuss and encourage military action on the behalf of our country? As long as they are our ally? Who determines the ally list? The senator?

Seems like we have someone that is not a US Senator that is appointed and approved by the Senate that's responsible for anything like this?

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Really? Our allies are known. There is no confusion on that at all.

Israel is an ally. Iran is not an ally.

Yes, yes, we know what you are getting at, and that is exactly why you can't, apparently, see a difference. Just know that there most definitely is a big difference.

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Yes, yes, we know what you are getting at, and that is exactly why you can't, apparently, see a difference. Just know that there most definitely is a big difference.

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It does not matter what I think that was not what I was asking.
I would imagine our US Senators have various views who our allies are.

So is it ok if a US senator goes to visit with a foreign leader and involve themselves on something military related?

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Yes, yes, we know what you are getting at, and that is exactly why you can't, apparently, see a difference. Just know that there most definitely is a big difference.

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It does not matter what I think that was not what I was asking.
I would imagine our US Senators have various views who our allies are.

So is it ok if a US senator goes to visit with a foreign leader and involve themselves on something military related?

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Their views are irrelevant. We know who are allies are. It's official policy and common sense.

If a Senator thinks Iran is an ally, then they are wrong at best and a traitor at worst.

This is not a subjective topic.

the ghoul idiot scum that is Senator Chris Murphy LITERALLY ROOTING FOR THE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC

which just massacred 40,000 + of it's own citizens

that is the pride of the leftist democrat party made up of communists, socialists, Islamists-

without a sense of morality, without a soul, without a sense of empathy.

only filled with hatred for MAGA and Trump.

I know what you are doing, you consider Israel and Iran to be equivalent and you are trying to abstract the 2 situations to be the same, but they most definitely are not. Working against our foreign policy with a country that is an expressed foe is not the same as discussing interests with an ally.

I find it hard to believe you don't see the difference.

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So we are ok with a US Senator traveling and meeting with a foreign leader to discuss and encourage military action on the behalf of our country? As long as they are our ally? Who determines the ally list? The senator?

Seems like we have someone that is not a US Senator that is appointed and approved by the Senate that's responsible for anything like this?

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in your twisted mind it would also be fine for a US Senator to applaud Hirohito after they bombed Pearl Harbor?

and to praise Germany after they defeated the USA in North Africa at Kasserine Pass? Although I am positive you have no idea about what Kasserine Pass was.

So just for the record you all are ok with any US Senator traveling to meet with a foreign leader to discuss intelligence and possible military action as long as they think they are an ally.

I don't have a problem with my wife going to the bank and discussing parts of our finances with a banker who may have some concerns with things coming up that should probably come to my attention.

I do have a problem with my wife going behind my back to a Russian hacker to discuss ways to get my money away from me.

See the difference?

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So just for the record you all are ok with any US Senator traveling to meet with a foreign leader to discuss intelligence and possible military action as long as they think they are an ally.

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Keep drinking the Tucker Kool-Aid.

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I don't have a problem with my wife going to the bank and discussing parts of our finances with a banker who may have some concerns with things coming up that should probably come to my attention.

I do have a problem with my wife going behind my back to a Russian hacker to discuss ways to get my money away from me.

See the difference?

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This has nothing to do with any of that. Going to the bank…….

Do you not understand why we have a process of senate approval for the Secretary of State.

I'm not ok with a US senator traveling to meet with any foreign leaders to discuss intelligence and or military issues.

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I don't have a problem with my wife going to the bank and discussing parts of our finances with a banker who may have some concerns with things coming up that should probably come to my attention.

I do have a problem with my wife going behind my back to a Russian hacker to discuss ways to get my money away from me.

See the difference?

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This has nothing to do with any of that. Going to the bank…….

Do you not understand why we have a process of senate approval for the Secretary of State.

I'm not ok with a US senator traveling to meet with any foreign leaders to discuss intelligence and or military issues.

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You do realize there is an entire committee named "United States Senate Committee on Foreign Relations", right?

A sitting U.S. Senator, having just returned from speaking at a Soros-funded Hate America conference of narco-socialists in #Spain, is now publicly rooting for #Iran while our troops are in combat.@TheDemocrats have fallen.#SOSConnecticut https://t.co/r8QAzzwcqW

— Emilio T. González, Ph.D. (@emiliotgonzalez) April 21, 2026

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Trump has said a thousand times Iran has no Navy or Air Force!
He says this as if it that' should be the end Iran.

Hopefully someone will explain to him that the Taliban didn't have a Navy or Air Force either for decades.

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Trump really needs to shut his mouth. I appreciate the transparency of his administration. I think it is a good thing.

But him tweeting constantly about the negotiations and this war makes him look stupid.

Like yesterday he posted a lot of bombs will be dropping if a deal is not made. Why post that? Just stfu. Now you will look like a fool if you extend the cease fire, which is what is going to happen. Because a deal will bot be made within the next 24 hours

We'll get a tweet about how well the talks have gone, how we are going to get something in return for an extension (strait open probably) and we are extending the cease fire for another week. Within a couple days the strait will be closed again and we'll get more stupid tweets with empty threats from Trump

Iranians are making him look like a fool and they are playing him badly

He needs to bomb the crap out of them if there is no deal made, figure out how to open the strait without Iran and get it done.

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I don't have a problem with my wife going to the bank and discussing parts of our finances with a banker who may have some concerns with things coming up that should probably come to my attention.

I do have a problem with my wife going behind my back to a Russian hacker to discuss ways to get my money away from me.

See the difference?

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This has nothing to do with any of that. Going to the bank…….

Do you not understand why we have a process of senate approval for the Secretary of State.

I'm not ok with a US senator traveling to meet with any foreign leaders to discuss intelligence and or military issues.

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You do realize there is an entire committee named "United States Senate Committee on Foreign Relations", right?

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Well at least it's not the bank analogy.

So it's ok if one of the committee members a US senator just goes to meet with any foreign leader to discuss intelligence and or military action?

i don't know who murphy is, but, it seems plausible to me that "awesome" is more sarcastic than celebratory

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i don't know who murphy is, but, it seems plausible to me that "awesome" is more sarcastic than celebratory

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You'd be incorrect imho. He's a Democrat Senator from Connecticut and is perhaps the most TDS-infected member of their caucus.

Also, it’s important to note that the report @ChrisMurphyCT was cheering and promoting about Iranian ships circumventing the US blockade turns out to be false regime propaganda.

Embarrassing and shameful.

pic.twitter.com/48LJbkmLQL https://t.co/D557oEWLGD

— AG (@AGHamilton29) April 21, 2026

He's also as dumb as Kamala, I believe. Maybe even Hirono. But, more importantly this is just who Democrats are. All of them. They want America to fail and for the mullahs/IRGC to win.

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Yes, yes, we know what you are getting at, and that is exactly why you can't, apparently, see a difference. Just know that there most definitely is a big difference.

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It does not matter what I think that was not what I was asking.
I would imagine our US Senators have various views who our allies are.

So is it ok if a US senator goes to visit with a foreign leader and involve themselves on something military related?

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We have an idiot senator and Governor in Spain bad mouthing America and cheering on the Iranians. Spain is not an ally

So I kind of agree with you. Israel is a clear ally though

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i don't know who murphy is, but, it seems plausible to me that "awesome" is more sarcastic than celebratory

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He's a senator from Connecticut. A lawyer/trained liar. Severe case of TDS and has devolved into an un-American gaslighter.

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Yes, yes, we know what you are getting at, and that is exactly why you can't, apparently, see a difference. Just know that there most definitely is a big difference.

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It does not matter what I think that was not what I was asking.
I would imagine our US Senators have various views who our allies are.

So is it ok if a US senator goes to visit with a foreign leader and involve themselves on something military related?

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We have an idiot senator and Governor in Spain bad mouthing America and cheering on the Iranians. Spain is not an ally

So I kind of agree with you. Israel is a clear ally though

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I was not ok with John Kerry visiting Iran later (former US Senator and Secretary of State). It was bordering treasonous actions.

I'm not ok with any US Senator traveling to meet with foreign leaders even if they are an ally to discuss intelligence and or military action. That goes for a serving or former US Senator.

We have a Secretary of State appointed by the senate for a reason.

fair enough. F him then

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I'm not ok with any US Senator traveling to meet with foreign leaders even if they are an ally to discuss intelligence and or military action. That goes for a serving or former US Senator.

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Well, they do that with regularity and have since... who knows when (I'd say decades, but that doesn't imply long enough), so... sorry?

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Yes, yes, we know what you are getting at, and that is exactly why you can't, apparently, see a difference. Just know that there most definitely is a big difference.

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It does not matter what I think that was not what I was asking.
I would imagine our US Senators have various views who our allies are.

So is it ok if a US senator goes to visit with a foreign leader and involve themselves on something military related?

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We have an idiot senator and Governor in Spain bad mouthing America and cheering on the Iranians. Spain is not an ally

So I kind of agree with you. Israel is a clear ally though

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I was not ok with John Kerry visiting Iran later (former US Senator and Secretary of State). It was bordering treasonous actions.

I'm not ok with any US Senator traveling to meet with foreign leaders even if they are an ally to discuss intelligence and or military action. That goes for a serving or former US Senator.

We have a Secretary of State appointed by the senate for a reason.

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Well, you are consistent then. It looked like you were trying to justify this dbag meeting with Iran.

Looking back on Iraq, thousands of dead Americans, a million dead Iraqis, and +$2 trillion added to US debt. The people who protested it were accused of "rooting against the US". We see the same irony today. A bunch of people cheerleading a new ME war and bashing anyone who thinks its bad for America.

Israel was pushing propaganda about WMDs then, and now. Bush was loved as the "tough on terrorist" POTUS then, just like Trump now.

These are historical facts that don't care about your feelings (as Shapiro used to say). People always have a hard time seeing the forrest for the trees during war. Its all been dumbed down to a partisan politics sport.

Its looking less and less likely that Iran will give Trump anything to gaslight a win. So Dems and Rand/Massie types will ultimately probably get blamed by Trump for cutting off funds for his lost gamble. That's where we are now. The worst alternative would be a large scale ground invasion if AIPAC can grease the Congressional skids hard enough.

Its time to cut losses like any disciplined investor does on a losing trade/biz. Emotionally doubling down to prove your are right, almost always ends worse.

Leftists claim it takes more socialism to make Marxism work. The neo con right claims it takes more war to "get the job done".

NEW: Trump administration is considering financial bailout for the United Arab Emirates over economic losses sustained from US war with Iran. -WSJ

— Dominic Michael Tripi (@DMichaelTripi) April 21, 2026

America first means bailing out other countries with taxpayer money due to yet another regime change war in the region

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NEW: Trump administration is considering financial bailout for the United Arab Emirates over economic losses sustained from US war with Iran. -WSJ

— Dominic Michael Tripi (@DMichaelTripi) April 21, 2026

America first means bailing out other countries with taxpayer money due to yet another regime change war in the region

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Enjoy that gaslight!

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Yes, yes, we know what you are getting at, and that is exactly why you can't, apparently, see a difference. Just know that there most definitely is a big difference.

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It does not matter what I think that was not what I was asking.
I would imagine our US Senators have various views who our allies are.

So is it ok if a US senator goes to visit with a foreign leader and involve themselves on something military related?

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We have an idiot senator and Governor in Spain bad mouthing America and cheering on the Iranians. Spain is not an ally

So I kind of agree with you. Israel is a clear ally though

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I was not ok with John Kerry visiting Iran later (former US Senator and Secretary of State). It was bordering treasonous actions.

I'm not ok with any US Senator traveling to meet with foreign leaders even if they are an ally to discuss intelligence and or military action. That goes for a serving or former US Senator.

We have a Secretary of State appointed by the senate for a reason.

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Well, you are consistent then. It looked like you were trying to justify this dbag meeting with Iran.

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We should never let a US senator decide our ally and then it's ok to meet with them.. Spain an ally now? well they were until recently but still member of NATO. Iran well of course they are not but at one time we actually had our CIA hub based in Tehran. They were a key ally. Israel has their own best interests as well as the US. It should not be ok for a US Senator to travel and meet with any foreign leader to discuss intelligence and or military actions.

Lindsey Graham should not have been doing so. We all know his history and beliefs on military action overseas. Rubio is the Secretary of State not Graham.

It's not ok either that the a president's son in law (that owns a multibillion dollar PE firm funded by the Saudi Prince and primary focus is investing in Israel) is involved in these negotiations. At the very minimum it is very bad optics. But worse it really is a bad conflict of interests when the US interests should be the highest priority.

Political fallout if things don't work out and you have the son in law involved with negotiations . Not good. If they do work out what did he gain from it. Stinks like the Biden's.

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Looking back on Iraq, thousands of dead Americans, a million dead Iraqis, and +$2 trillion added to US debt. The people who protested it were accused of "rooting against the US". We see the same irony today. A bunch of people cheerleading a new ME war and bashing anyone who thinks its bad for America.

Israel was pushing propaganda about WMDs then, and now. Bush was loved as the "tough on terrorist" POTUS then, just like Trump now.

These are historical facts that don't care about your feelings (as Shapiro used to say). People always have a hard time seeing the forrest for the trees during war. Its all been dumbed down to a partisan politics sport.

Its looking less and less likely that Iran will give Trump anything to gaslight a win. So Dems and Rand/Massie types will ultimately probably get blamed by Trump for cutting off funds for his lost gamble. That's where we are now. The worst alternative would be a large scale ground invasion if AIPAC can grease the Congressional skids hard enough.

Its time to cut losses like any disciplined investor does on a losing trade/biz. Emotionally doubling down to prove your are right, almost always ends worse.

Leftists claim it takes more socialism to make Marxism work. The neo con right claims it takes more war to "get the job done".

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Like clockwork. KKKool-Aid drinking in progress.

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Just checking in.

How’s your flotilla?

Has it sailed yet?? https://t.co/kDAaIuTZKQ

— Ari Fleischer (@AriFleischer) April 20, 2026

This could almost fit in the 'funny political tweet' thread imho.

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TIL that Detroit means strait in French...