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PaulsBunions said:

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NEW: Trump administration is considering financial bailout for the United Arab Emirates over economic losses sustained from US war with Iran. -WSJ

— Dominic Michael Tripi (@DMichaelTripi) April 21, 2026

America first means bailing out other countries with taxpayer money due to yet another regime change war in the region

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Enjoy that gaslight!

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Not an argument.

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Phatbob said:

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Yes, yes, we know what you are getting at, and that is exactly why you can't, apparently, see a difference. Just know that there most definitely is a big difference.

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It does not matter what I think that was not what I was asking.
I would imagine our US Senators have various views who our allies are.

So is it ok if a US senator goes to visit with a foreign leader and involve themselves on something military related?

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And just WHAT would give Murphy the impression that IRAN was one of our allies?

Something like 1,500-2,000 'congressional delegation' trips abroad are conducted per year. I agree it is grotesque.

It's a fully bi-partisan political problem imho, and itself an animating issue that makes me want to see foreign aid cut much further, to limit the justifications of such 'oversight' junkets.

PaulsBunions said:

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bobbranco said:

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PaulsBunions said:

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NEW: Trump administration is considering financial bailout for the United Arab Emirates over economic losses sustained from US war with Iran. -WSJ

— Dominic Michael Tripi (@DMichaelTripi) April 21, 2026

America first means bailing out other countries with taxpayer money due to yet another regime change war in the region

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Enjoy that gaslight!

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Not an argument.

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It's a quality observation.

The quoted individual is not reliable.

Ag with kids said:

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AGHouston11 said:

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Phatbob said:

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Yes, yes, we know what you are getting at, and that is exactly why you can't, apparently, see a difference. Just know that there most definitely is a big difference.

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It does not matter what I think that was not what I was asking.
I would imagine our US Senators have various views who our allies are.

So is it ok if a US senator goes to visit with a foreign leader and involve themselves on something military related?

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And just WHAT would give Murphy the impression that IRAN was one of our allies?

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I have no idea. Just like I have no idea why Obama dropped pallets of cash. Just like I have no idea why John Kerry visited often.

bobbranco said:

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PaulsBunions said:

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bobbranco said:

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PaulsBunions said:

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NEW: Trump administration is considering financial bailout for the United Arab Emirates over economic losses sustained from US war with Iran. -WSJ

— Dominic Michael Tripi (@DMichaelTripi) April 21, 2026

America first means bailing out other countries with taxpayer money due to yet another regime change war in the region

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Enjoy that gaslight!

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Not an argument.

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It's a quality observation.

The quoted individual is not reliable.

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The source is the WSJ. Are you saying they are lying? Here is Kevin Hassett talking about it.

Hassett on a bailout for the UAE: "The UAE has been an incredibly valuable ally throughout this effort, and I'm sure the Treasury Secretary will make every effort to help them out should that be necessary" pic.twitter.com/S1D6OQZfAw

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) April 20, 2026

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Something like 1,500-2,000 'congressional delegation' trips abroad are conducted per year. I agree it is grotesque.

It's a fully bi-partisan political problem imho, and itself an animating issue that makes me want to see foreign aid cut much further, to limit the justifications of such 'oversight' junkets.

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Yes congressional delegations probably should be cut. But a single US senator visiting a foreign leader to discuss intelligence and or military action because they think they should do so should not happen.

I was around when insane leftist communists fought Ronald Reagan on Star Wars and deploying Pershing Missiles into Europe

but even they were not as immoral and traitorous as today's democrat party politicians

Senator Chris Murphy representing his constituents 🤔 pic.twitter.com/7mxncagZXO

— JeffXmemes (@JeffXmemes) April 21, 2026

If I had a nickel for every time a sucker fell for "The White House is considering" stories...

Do you think Kevin Hassett, the director of the National Economic Council who Trump appointed is also lying?

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3597662/replies/72224775

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Do you think Kevin Hassett, the director of the National Economic Council who Trump appointed is also lying?

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3597662/replies/72224775

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People in a situation like this where we are playing geopolitical dodge ball put all sorts of things out for reasons ranging from personal gain to negotiation tactics... the President said he was going to "end a civilization" for the love of God... there is pretty much nothing that isn't being floated by someone somewhere... and this one in particular is never going to happen.

Call me when it's more than something "being considered"

Phatbob said:

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PaulsBunions said:

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Do you think Kevin Hassett, the director of the National Economic Council who Trump appointed is also lying?

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3597662/replies/72224775

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People in a situation like this where we are playing geopolitical dodge ball put all sorts of things out for reasons ranging from personal gain to negotiation tactics... the President said he was going to "end a civilization" for the love of God... there is pretty much nothing that isn't being floated by someone somewhere...

Call me when it's more than something "being considered"

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"Okay yes they are considering it but I don't care"

Ok thanks for sharing

No, no one is considering it. That doesn't mean putting it out doesn't have a purpose.

I'm sure it will be political fodder for sure, but who exactly couldn't foresee the growth of drone use in defense spending? It doesn't take insider trading to figure that one out.

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Just announced Pentagon to invest BILLIONS into drone companies. Guess who got involved a while back into drone companies. Don Jr and Eric.

Illegal? guess not but just seems like the Swamp being the Swamp.

Pentagon money flowing to a president's son -
Political fallout again not good.

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Myopic view.

MarvZindler said:

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Imagine if invoices were sent out by the treasury to Americans. "Pay $1500 to repair UAE damages in war." "Pay $3500 to replenish Israel weapons." It would be absurd, the country would be outraged. Better yet, make the invoices out in the names of American grandchildren. Put an "America First" banner at top of those invoices.

Everyone cheeleading this war are like rich housewives who think their credit cards are magic.

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hahaha yes.

Ag with kids said:

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AGHouston11 said:

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Just announced Pentagon to invest BILLIONS into drone companies. Guess who got involved a while back into drone companies. Don Jr and Eric.

Illegal? guess not but just seems like the Swamp being the Swamp.

Pentagon money flowing to a president's son -
Political fallout again not good.

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Drones have become one of the most used and dangerous weapons on the battlefield both in Ukraine and Iran.

But, there's no way the Pentagon is investing drone companies because of that. It's because the Trumps want to make money.


Makes PERFECT sense...

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Well of course nothing was said otherwise.

But how does the process work for choosing the companies?

Think it's a little odd that some of the companies may have the president's sons involved heavily? You know like on the board?

That's exactly how the swamp works.

This again is the opposite of what Trump campaigned on and was elected for.

MarvZindler said:

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Looking back on Iraq, thousands of dead Americans, a million dead Iraqis, and +$2 trillion added to US debt. The people who protested it were accused of "rooting against the US". We see the same irony today. A bunch of people cheerleading a new ME war and bashing anyone who thinks its bad for America.

Israel was pushing propaganda about WMDs then, and now. Bush was loved as the "tough on terrorist" POTUS then, just like Trump now.

These are historical facts that don't care about your feelings (as Shapiro used to say). People always have a hard time seeing the forrest for the trees during war. Its all been dumbed down to a partisan politics sport.

Its looking less and less likely that Iran will give Trump anything to gaslight a win. So Dems and Rand/Massie types will ultimately probably get blamed by Trump for cutting off funds for his lost gamble. That's where we are now. The worst alternative would be a large scale ground invasion if AIPAC can grease the Congressional skids hard enough.

Its time to cut losses like any disciplined investor does on a losing trade/biz. Emotionally doubling down to prove your are right, almost always ends worse.

Leftists claim it takes more socialism to make Marxism work. The neo con right claims it takes more war to "get the job done".

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Yet you still have not resolved the problem. Do you not believe there is a problem? And, comparing risk assesment in war with risk assesment in investing is naive.

AGHouston11 said:

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Ag with kids said:

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AGHouston11 said:

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Just announced Pentagon to invest BILLIONS into drone companies. Guess who got involved a while back into drone companies. Don Jr and Eric.

Illegal? guess not but just seems like the Swamp being the Swamp.

Pentagon money flowing to a president's son -
Political fallout again not good.

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Drones have become one of the most used and dangerous weapons on the battlefield both in Ukraine and Iran.

But, there's no way the Pentagon is investing drone companies because of that. It's because the Trumps want to make money.


Makes PERFECT sense...

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Well of course nothing was said otherwise.

But how does the process work for choosing the companies?

Think it's a little odd that some of the companies may have the president's sons involved heavily? You know like on the board?

That's exactly how the swamp works.

This again is the opposite of what Trump campaigned on and was elected for.

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Circumstantial Ad Hominem unless you can point to those companies connection and/or profit. Maybe you can, but you have'nt. Terrible way to argue a point.

MarvZindler said:

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Imagine if invoices were sent out by the treasury to Americans. "Pay $1500 to repair UAE damages in war." "Pay $3500 to replenish Israel weapons." It would be absurd, the country would be outraged. Better yet, make the invoices out in the names of American grandchildren. Put an "America First" banner at top of those invoices.

Everyone cheeleading this war are like rich housewives who think their credit cards are magic.

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Now do Somalian daycare...

FWTXAg said:

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AgFan1974 said:

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MarvZindler said:

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Looking back on Iraq, thousands of dead Americans, a million dead Iraqis, and +$2 trillion added to US debt. The people who protested it were accused of "rooting against the US". We see the same irony today. A bunch of people cheerleading a new ME war and bashing anyone who thinks its bad for America.

Israel was pushing propaganda about WMDs then, and now. Bush was loved as the "tough on terrorist" POTUS then, just like Trump now.

These are historical facts that don't care about your feelings (as Shapiro used to say). People always have a hard time seeing the forrest for the trees during war. Its all been dumbed down to a partisan politics sport.

Its looking less and less likely that Iran will give Trump anything to gaslight a win. So Dems and Rand/Massie types will ultimately probably get blamed by Trump for cutting off funds for his lost gamble. That's where we are now. The worst alternative would be a large scale ground invasion if AIPAC can grease the Congressional skids hard enough.

Its time to cut losses like any disciplined investor does on a losing trade/biz. Emotionally doubling down to prove your are right, almost always ends worse.

Leftists claim it takes more socialism to make Marxism work. The neo con right claims it takes more war to "get the job done".

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Yet you still have not resolved the problem. Do you not believe there is a problem? And, comparing risk assesment in war with risk assesment in investing is naive.

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Correct, there is not a problem. Iran can do nothing to the average American, no Country can. We pay a trillion dollars per year on national defense.

I would bet we have some insane type of iron dome like system where no oone would ever and I mean ever be able to hurt us militarily. The CIA probably runs every other Country on the planet. If something happens in America, it's because the powers that be want it to happen.

And if we don't, it's even more reason to not spend 1/10th of the money we do on the military/national defense, we're being robbed blind. Just like everything else our benevolent Government Gods do for us.

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Thanks for the honest repsonse. We disagree on this point. There is a reason mutually assured destruction exists. We can hit each other. We are resonably certain that most will not. We are reasonably certain that even our worst enemies, while steady maneavering for power and influence, do not believe annihilation is an acceptable outcome. And, we were hit in September of 2001. It can happen again.

I struggle like anyone else with the points you raise. I think most do. Pay off my house and put 100k in the bank for each of my kids college sounds much better than trillions of dollars spent at war. It is "our" money after all. We should question these things. We should also balance that with the reality of the world which can be an evil place.

I want the people of Iran to be free. I want to have the confidence you have that we are safe. I want my kids and their kids to have that same confidence. I do not want their kids doing bomb drills under their desks like I did in the first grade. To think that world exists without someone insisting it does (at the expense of others) is unrealistic.

We have a problem in Iran. We disagree. We can disagree. God bless the USA and the people who died so we can.

AgFan1974 said:

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Yet you still have not resolved the problem. Do you not believe there is a problem? And, comparing risk assesment in war with risk assesment in investing is naive.

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There was not an "imminent nuclear threat" problem after Midnight Hammer. Nor was there a Hormuz bottleneck problem.

The problem has always been an Iranian regime that sponsored attacks on Israel. US leaders have been financially motivated, and Americans have been propagantized, to believe Israel's problems are America's problems.

The good news is that will change. Not tomorrow, but years down the road the majority of this country will realize that Israel has manipulated our leaders, and looted the US taxpayer for 60 years.

In terms of viewing modern war as an "investment", it actually should be viewed that way. Especially if the objective is to liberate a bunch of Muslims on other side of the world, to make them a western partner. The days of US "war" being a last resort to protect the homeland are over. "Wars" have become executive branch excursions to extract some geopolitical/mineral prize.

But if anyone still believes Iraq was an imminent WMD threat, or 9/11 culprit, than its no surprise they believe the current propaganda on Iran.

Operation Absolute Resolve was a great investment.
Operation Midnight Hammer, also good (if it ended there)
Operation AIPAC Fury, a growing disaster.

Trump isn't Kim Jung, he doesn't get perfect golf scores. He isn't Christ either.

AGHouston11 said:

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Ag with kids said:

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AGHouston11 said:

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Just announced Pentagon to invest BILLIONS into drone companies. Guess who got involved a while back into drone companies. Don Jr and Eric.

Illegal? guess not but just seems like the Swamp being the Swamp.

Pentagon money flowing to a president's son -
Political fallout again not good.

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Drones have become one of the most used and dangerous weapons on the battlefield both in Ukraine and Iran.

But, there's no way the Pentagon is investing drone companies because of that. It's because the Trumps want to make money.


Makes PERFECT sense...

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Well of course nothing was said otherwise.

But how does the process work for choosing the companies?

Think it's a little odd that some of the companies may have the president's sons involved heavily? You know like on the board?

That's exactly how the swamp works.

This again is the opposite of what Trump campaigned on and was elected for.

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What drone company are they on the board of?

But this is just you reaching to connect dots...so that you can blame Trump...

Kinda sad what y'all people have become now...

Secolobo said:

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MarvZindler said:

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Imagine if invoices were sent out by the treasury to Americans. "Pay $1500 to repair UAE damages in war." "Pay $3500 to replenish Israel weapons." It would be absurd, the country would be outraged. Better yet, make the invoices out in the names of American grandchildren. Put an "America First" banner at top of those invoices.

Everyone cheeleading this war are like rich housewives who think their credit cards are magic.

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Now do Somalian daycare...

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Because it's impossible to be against both? What a dumb retort.

FWTXAg said:

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AgFan1974 said:

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MarvZindler said:

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Looking back on Iraq, thousands of dead Americans, a million dead Iraqis, and +$2 trillion added to US debt. The people who protested it were accused of "rooting against the US". We see the same irony today. A bunch of people cheerleading a new ME war and bashing anyone who thinks its bad for America.

Israel was pushing propaganda about WMDs then, and now. Bush was loved as the "tough on terrorist" POTUS then, just like Trump now.

These are historical facts that don't care about your feelings (as Shapiro used to say). People always have a hard time seeing the forrest for the trees during war. Its all been dumbed down to a partisan politics sport.

Its looking less and less likely that Iran will give Trump anything to gaslight a win. So Dems and Rand/Massie types will ultimately probably get blamed by Trump for cutting off funds for his lost gamble. That's where we are now. The worst alternative would be a large scale ground invasion if AIPAC can grease the Congressional skids hard enough.

Its time to cut losses like any disciplined investor does on a losing trade/biz. Emotionally doubling down to prove your are right, almost always ends worse.

Leftists claim it takes more socialism to make Marxism work. The neo con right claims it takes more war to "get the job done".

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Yet you still have not resolved the problem. Do you not believe there is a problem? And, comparing risk assesment in war with risk assesment in investing is naive.

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Correct, there is not a problem. Iran can do nothing to the average American, no Country can. We pay a trillion dollars per year on national defense.

I would bet we have some insane type of iron dome like system where no oone would ever and I mean ever be able to hurt us militarily. The CIA probably runs every other Country on the planet. If something happens in America, it's because the powers that be want it to happen.

And if we don't, it's even more reason to not spend 1/10th of the money we do on the military/national defense, we're being robbed blind. Just like everything else our benevolent Government Gods do for us.

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We don't have that "iron dome system". We relied on MAD instead.

That's why Trump proposed the "Golden Dome" system...BECAUSE we don't have that protection...

MarvZindler said:

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AgFan1974 said:

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Yet you still have not resolved the problem. Do you not believe there is a problem? And, comparing risk assesment in war with risk assesment in investing is naive.

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There was not an "imminent nuclear threat" problem after Midnight Hammer. Nor was there a Hormuz bottleneck problem.

The problem has always been an Iranian regime that sponsored attacks on Israel. US leaders have been financially motivated, and Americans have been propagantized, to believe Israel's problems are America's problems.

The good news is that will change. Not tomorrow, but years down the road the majority of this country will realize that Israel has manipulated our leaders, and looted the US taxpayer for 60 years.

In terms of viewing modern war as an "investment", it actually should be viewed that way. Especially if the objective is to liberate a bunch of Muslims on other side of the world, to make them a western partner. The days of US "war" being a last resort to protect the homeland are over. "Wars" have become executive branch excursions to extract some geopolitical/mineral prize.

But if anyone still believes Iraq was an imminent WMD threat, or 9/11 culprit, than its no surprise they believe the current propaganda on Iran.

Operation Absolute Resolve was a great investment.
Operation Midnight Hammer, also good (if it ended there)
Operation AIPAC Fury, a growing disaster.

Trump isn't Kim Jung, he doesn't get perfect golf scores. He isn't Christ either.

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I guess your anti-semitism has blinded you to the fact that the Iranians have attacked the US numerous times and killed over a thousand Americans...

Iran is having their ass handed to them hourly. The Carlson pimps are out in force regurgitating the talking points.

Ag with kids said:

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AGHouston11 said:

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Ag with kids said:

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AGHouston11 said:

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Just announced Pentagon to invest BILLIONS into drone companies. Guess who got involved a while back into drone companies. Don Jr and Eric.

Illegal? guess not but just seems like the Swamp being the Swamp.

Pentagon money flowing to a president's son -
Political fallout again not good.

---

Drones have become one of the most used and dangerous weapons on the battlefield both in Ukraine and Iran.

But, there's no way the Pentagon is investing drone companies because of that. It's because the Trumps want to make money.


Makes PERFECT sense...

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Well of course nothing was said otherwise.

But how does the process work for choosing the companies?

Think it's a little odd that some of the companies may have the president's sons involved heavily? You know like on the board?

That's exactly how the swamp works.

This again is the opposite of what Trump campaigned on and was elected for.

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What drone company are they on the board of?

But this is just you reaching to connect dots...so that you can blame Trump...

Kinda sad what y'all people have become now...

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This. Unless you can draw a clear and concise line between Pentagon investments and the beforementioned actors, this is a reach.

AgFan1974 said:

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AGHouston11 said:

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Ag with kids said:

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AGHouston11 said:

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Just announced Pentagon to invest BILLIONS into drone companies. Guess who got involved a while back into drone companies. Don Jr and Eric.

Illegal? guess not but just seems like the Swamp being the Swamp.

Pentagon money flowing to a president's son -
Political fallout again not good.

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Drones have become one of the most used and dangerous weapons on the battlefield both in Ukraine and Iran.

But, there's no way the Pentagon is investing drone companies because of that. It's because the Trumps want to make money.


Makes PERFECT sense...

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Well of course nothing was said otherwise.

But how does the process work for choosing the companies?

Think it's a little odd that some of the companies may have the president's sons involved heavily? You know like on the board?

That's exactly how the swamp works.

This again is the opposite of what Trump campaigned on and was elected for.

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Circumstantial Ad Hominem unless you can point to those companies connection and/or profit. Maybe you can, but you have'nt. Terrible way to argue a point.

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What exactly are you looking for as a connection. Just do a quick search for Eric and Don Jr invest in drone companies. You will see tons of msm headlines. Things like stocks soar with board appointment etc. The names of the companies. Loans from the pentagon to their companies, etc, etc,

It's not being done secretly. I never implied that. It's a bad look though in the middle of a war when a competing company for drone contracts has the president's son as a large investor or on the board. They are involved with more than one company.

Simply put if this was Hunter and the president was Biden it would be looked at much differently by Republicans.

This wreaks like when Comey and Niki Haley went to the "private sector". Not the same of course but it is similar how it's favorable to have "certain people" involved when it comes to Pentagon contracts.