BadMoonRisin said:

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Sounds like a Europe problem to me.

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Haha yea, no.

We are in a world economy, a few dominos fall and our Ponzi scheme of a stock market collapses. All of the 50-75 year olds who are trying to convince themselves to support this war will turn on Trump so fast his head will spin. Then he will have basically 0 supporters left lol

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BlackGold said:

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AgFan1974 said:

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Never mind, this war is like Texas Weather. Don't like the news? Just wait 10 minutes.

This we can all agree on!

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We can agree on that
Deadline just extended again!

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Sounds like indefinitely until agreements are agreed upon.

Iran now has quite a bit of leverage on the world and they know it. Hell, everyone knows it now.

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Except a huge swath of posters on here… Iran will always have leverage over the straight based solely on their geography. There is no getting around it.

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Arguably they don't even need a nuke. They now know how much power they have with the strait.

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Their leverage, at the core, is they have no regard for human life, and, their "ememies" do. This could have been over a long time ago but for (understandably) the restraints of the West. The "world" has known this for fifty years. The question is, and always has been, does the "world" have the stomach to do something about it.

This is why every administration (at home and our allies) has tip-toed around the problem for decades. It remains to be seen if the West (not Trump on an island, and not just politicians) are willing to take the risk yet.

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those Europeans are not our allies nor are their energy problems our problem.

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You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality - Ayn Rand

It an ideal world we can just walk away from 75 years of alliances and deeply interconnected economies. But we don't live in an ideal world........ It's not as easy as cancelling a Youtube subscription.


About 5-8 years from now the US will be in a much better position acting as the primary regional power in the Western hemisphere.

Although, getting there is going to really suck for most of us. At least we will get to watch all of the hyper inflated debt based economic bubbles pop, that will be entertaining......

FWTXAg said:

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BadMoonRisin said:

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Sounds like a Europe problem to me.

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Haha yea, no.

We are in a world economy, a few dominos fall and our Ponzi scheme of a stock market collapses. All of the 50-75 year olds who are trying to convince themselves to support this war will turn on Trump so fast his head will spin. Then he will have basically 0 supporters left lol

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Nonsensical but, yes, we are in a world economy and people may sour on things if this goes on longer.

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No one is blaming Biden for stopping Iran from completing their nuclear weapons development program, and those Europeans are not our allies nor are their energy problems our problem.

We'll continue to sell them what fuel/oil/gas we can afford to out of the goodness of our hearts, though another of their major suppliers has announced they are terminating shipments to Germany in May. The Euro's just have to deal with the consequences of their actions/decisions, imho.

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Oh I am blaming Biden for his idiocy and weakness in stopping the Iranians!

FWTXAg said:

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BadMoonRisin said:

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Sounds like a Europe problem to me.

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Haha yea, no.

We are in a world economy, a few dominos fall and our Ponzi scheme of a stock market collapses. All of the 50-75 year olds who are trying to convince themselves to support this war will turn on Trump so fast his head will spin. Then he will have basically 0 supporters left lol

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so much stupidity in one post

would love to hear how the United States equity markets are a "ponzi scheme" considering they are the most valuable markets in the entire world.

provide SPECIFICS about how you know they are a ponzi scheme, and when they will completely collapse as all ponzi schemes do.

meaning you tell us the year this "ponzi scheme" which has existed since 1792 collapses.

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Their leverage, at the core, is they have no regard for human life, and, their "ememies" do. This could have been over a long time ago but for (understandably) the restraints of the West. The "world" has known this for fifty years. The question is, and always has been, does the "world" have the stomach to do something about it.

This is why every administration (at home and our allies) has tip-toed around the problem for decades. It remains to be seen if the West (not Trump on an island, and not just politicians) are willing to take the risk yet.

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And those lack of values for life extends to their own peoples. Afghanistan in the 50s and 60s was more modern with Western standards in dress, music, education in the more populated cities. Was everything perfect for those still living a tribal existence outside of those areas, no. Could that have improved? Yes. But radical Islam played off of those resentments to fuel complete rejection of any western value.

Same in Iran. Was modernizing and gaining prosperity, open to Western culture. Was the Shah perfect? No. Same thing happened.

Beirut was the Riviera of the Middle East, Western and prosperous. Until Hamas and Hezbollah took over.

AgFan1974 said:

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bigtruckguy3500 said:

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BlackGold said:

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Eliminatus said:

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AGHouston11 said:

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AgFan1974 said:

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Never mind, this war is like Texas Weather. Don't like the news? Just wait 10 minutes.

This we can all agree on!

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We can agree on that
Deadline just extended again!

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Sounds like indefinitely until agreements are agreed upon.

Iran now has quite a bit of leverage on the world and they know it. Hell, everyone knows it now.

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Except a huge swath of posters on here… Iran will always have leverage over the straight based solely on their geography. There is no getting around it.

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Arguably they don't even need a nuke. They now know how much power they have with the strait.

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Their leverage, at the core, is they have no regard for human life, and, their "ememies" do. This could have been over a long time ago but for (understandably) the restraints of the West. The "world" has known this for fifty years. The question is, and always has been, does the "world" have the stomach to do something about it.

This is why every administration (at home and our allies) has tip-toed around the problem for decades. It remains to be seen if the West (not Trump on an island, and not just politicians) are willing to take the risk yet.

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Further, they dont need an actual nuke...they just need the threat of making a nuke because people understand them even pursuing one is a problem.

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FWTXAg said:

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BadMoonRisin said:

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Sounds like a Europe problem to me.

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Haha yea, no.

We are in a world economy, a few dominos fall and our Ponzi scheme of a stock market collapses. All of the 50-75 year olds who are trying to convince themselves to support this war will turn on Trump so fast his head will spin. Then he will have basically 0 supporters left lol

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so much stupidity in one post

would love to hear how the United States equity markets are a "ponzi scheme" considering they are the most valuable markets in the entire world.

provide SPECIFICS about how you know they are a ponzi scheme, and when they will completely collapse as all ponzi schemes do.

meaning you tell us the year this "ponzi scheme" which has existed since 1792 collapses.

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When stocks go up or down 20% based on what somebody tweets. About the most obvious sign you're a participant in a Ponzi scheme. The only reason we might not have a dot com style crash soon is because we will try and print our way out of it.

FWTXAg said:

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LMCane said:

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FWTXAg said:

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BadMoonRisin said:

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Sounds like a Europe problem to me.

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Haha yea, no.

We are in a world economy, a few dominos fall and our Ponzi scheme of a stock market collapses. All of the 50-75 year olds who are trying to convince themselves to support this war will turn on Trump so fast his head will spin. Then he will have basically 0 supporters left lol

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so much stupidity in one post

would love to hear how the United States equity markets are a "ponzi scheme" considering they are the most valuable markets in the entire world.

provide SPECIFICS about how you know they are a ponzi scheme, and when they will completely collapse as all ponzi schemes do.

meaning you tell us the year this "ponzi scheme" which has existed since 1792 collapses.

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When stocks go up or down 20% based on what somebody tweets. About the most obvious sign you're a participant in a Ponzi scheme. The only reason we might not have a dot com style crash soon is because we will try and print our way out of it.

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Still doesn't make it a Ponzi scheme. I don't think you understand the definition of that.

The stock market is absolutely partially driven by psychology as investors are constantly trying to price in the future. And we will certainly try to print our way of any downturn. That strategy was decided long ago.

YouBet said:

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FWTXAg said:

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LMCane said:

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FWTXAg said:

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BadMoonRisin said:

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Sounds like a Europe problem to me.

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Haha yea, no.

We are in a world economy, a few dominos fall and our Ponzi scheme of a stock market collapses. All of the 50-75 year olds who are trying to convince themselves to support this war will turn on Trump so fast his head will spin. Then he will have basically 0 supporters left lol

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so much stupidity in one post

would love to hear how the United States equity markets are a "ponzi scheme" considering they are the most valuable markets in the entire world.

provide SPECIFICS about how you know they are a ponzi scheme, and when they will completely collapse as all ponzi schemes do.

meaning you tell us the year this "ponzi scheme" which has existed since 1792 collapses.

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When stocks go up or down 20% based on what somebody tweets. About the most obvious sign you're a participant in a Ponzi scheme. The only reason we might not have a dot com style crash soon is because we will try and print our way out of it.

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Still doesn't make it a Ponzi scheme. I don't think you understand the definition of that.

The stock market is absolutely partially driven by psychology as investors are constantly trying to price in the future. And we will certainly try to print our way of any downturn. That strategy was decided long ago.

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It's a Ponzi scheme much like social security just with a bit of flavor added. It wasn't always that way, but ever since Americans 401k's started automatically being deposited it's really just white collar America's piggy bank. As layoffs continue we will find out how much these American equities are really worth. It's going to be a whole lot less than what they are currently priced at.

Most of the EU is an export market (and extremely protectionist). If they cant build due to rising energy costs theyre absolutely screwed. Which Trump warned them about during his first term and they laughed in his face.

Dungeon Crawler Carl said:

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Trump says he'll give some kind of financial bailout to the UAE, because he found it "shocking" they were hit so hard; he thought Iran would only try to strike Israel. (So in other words, there was instant escalation beyond what he anticipated, and now the US will foot the bill) pic.twitter.com/7DuD7WeW8R

— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) April 21, 2026

Got to love it. He'd consider a bail out of UAE for his complete incompetence.

Printer goes brrrr........for one of the wealthiest countries in the world.

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I guess you also thought Iran would bomb other Muslim countries...

aggiehawg said:

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Their leverage, at the core, is they have no regard for human life, and, their "ememies" do. This could have been over a long time ago but for (understandably) the restraints of the West. The "world" has known this for fifty years. The question is, and always has been, does the "world" have the stomach to do something about it.

This is why every administration (at home and our allies) has tip-toed around the problem for decades. It remains to be seen if the West (not Trump on an island, and not just politicians) are willing to take the risk yet.

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And those lack of values for life extends to their own peoples. Afghanistan in the 50s and 60s was more modern with Western standards in dress, music, education in the more populated cities. Was everything perfect for those still living a tribal existence outside of those areas, no. Could that have improved? Yes. But radical Islam played off of those resentments to fuel complete rejection of any western value.

Same in Iran. Was modernizing and gaining prosperity, open to Western culture. Was the Shah perfect? No. Same thing happened.

Beirut was the Riviera of the Middle East, Western and prosperous. Until Hamas and Hezbollah took over.

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And allied with Israel to boot.

He's about to bailout an airline too so he still has American interests at heart... or something.

I wildly disagree with us bailing out the UAE and our ****hole airlines. F* them all.

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Dungeon Crawler Carl said:

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Got to love it. He'd consider a bail out of UAE for his complete incompetence.

Printer goes brrrr........for one of the wealthiest countries in the world.

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Huh thats weird, I was told 2 pages ago that I'm a gaslit sucker for believing those reports, now the President himself says its under consideration. I wonder if there will be any crow eaten?

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Has it happened?

YouBet said:

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I wildly disagree with us bailing out the UAE and our ****hole airlines. F* them all.

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Something is not sitting well for this statement about a US taxpayer funded "bailout" of the UAE.
A) They are rich enough
B) They have the resources to fix their stuff damaged by the Iranian regime.

So my question is whether Bessent has identified Iranian funds in UAE that we were going to take but instead will let the UAE have them? Is that what is really happening? Those funds being viewed as reparations for damages caused to the UAE?

Bailing out UAE>>>>>making sure our own citizens can get healthcare, or ensuring a poor kid gets to eat lunch at school.

PaulsBunions said:

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Dungeon Crawler Carl said:

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Trump says he'll give some kind of financial bailout to the UAE, because he found it "shocking" they were hit so hard; he thought Iran would only try to strike Israel. (So in other words, there was instant escalation beyond what he anticipated, and now the US will foot the bill) pic.twitter.com/7DuD7WeW8R

— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) April 21, 2026

Got to love it. He'd consider a bail out of UAE for his complete incompetence.

Printer goes brrrr........for one of the wealthiest countries in the world.

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Huh thats weird, I was told 2 pages ago that I'm a gaslit sucker for believing those reports, now the President himself says its under consideration. I wonder if there will be any crow eaten?

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FYI, the narcissist's prayer comes in handy when dealing with the cultists.

He didn't say that. <<<<< The step the cultists were in yesterday when responding to you.
And if he did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal. <<<<<<< The step they're in this morning after Dear Leader confirmed it.
And if it is, that's not his fault.
And if it was, he didn't mean it.
And if he did, you deserved it.

PaulsBunions said:

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Dungeon Crawler Carl said:

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Trump says he'll give some kind of financial bailout to the UAE, because he found it "shocking" they were hit so hard; he thought Iran would only try to strike Israel. (So in other words, there was instant escalation beyond what he anticipated, and now the US will foot the bill) pic.twitter.com/7DuD7WeW8R

— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) April 21, 2026

Got to love it. He'd consider a bail out of UAE for his complete incompetence.

Printer goes brrrr........for one of the wealthiest countries in the world.

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Huh thats weird, I was told 2 pages ago that I'm a gaslit sucker for believing those reports, now the President himself says its under consideration. I wonder if there will be any crow eaten?

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It has not happened yet. If it does happen, it will be a currency swap like we did for Argentina. We make money on those. Google is your friend...or you can just whine at any headline published.

japantiger said:

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PaulsBunions said:

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Dungeon Crawler Carl said:

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Trump says he'll give some kind of financial bailout to the UAE, because he found it "shocking" they were hit so hard; he thought Iran would only try to strike Israel. (So in other words, there was instant escalation beyond what he anticipated, and now the US will foot the bill) pic.twitter.com/7DuD7WeW8R

— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) April 21, 2026

Got to love it. He'd consider a bail out of UAE for his complete incompetence.

Printer goes brrrr........for one of the wealthiest countries in the world.

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Huh thats weird, I was told 2 pages ago that I'm a gaslit sucker for believing those reports, now the President himself says its under consideration. I wonder if there will be any crow eaten?

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It has not happened yet. If it does happen, it will be a currency swap like we did for Argentina. We make money on those. Google is your friend...or you can just whine at any headline published.

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Sure buddy, whats another line item on a debt riddled government's books. We LOVE government spending here

PaulsBunions said:

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japantiger said:

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PaulsBunions said:

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Dungeon Crawler Carl said:

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Trump says he'll give some kind of financial bailout to the UAE, because he found it "shocking" they were hit so hard; he thought Iran would only try to strike Israel. (So in other words, there was instant escalation beyond what he anticipated, and now the US will foot the bill) pic.twitter.com/7DuD7WeW8R

— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) April 21, 2026

Got to love it. He'd consider a bail out of UAE for his complete incompetence.

Printer goes brrrr........for one of the wealthiest countries in the world.

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Huh thats weird, I was told 2 pages ago that I'm a gaslit sucker for believing those reports, now the President himself says its under consideration. I wonder if there will be any crow eaten?

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It has not happened yet. If it does happen, it will be a currency swap like we did for Argentina. We make money on those. Google is your friend...or you can just whine at any headline published.

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Sure buddy, whats another line item on a debt riddled government's books. We LOVE government spending here

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So you don't know what a currency swap is, huh.

japantiger said:

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PaulsBunions said:

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Dungeon Crawler Carl said:

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Trump says he'll give some kind of financial bailout to the UAE, because he found it "shocking" they were hit so hard; he thought Iran would only try to strike Israel. (So in other words, there was instant escalation beyond what he anticipated, and now the US will foot the bill) pic.twitter.com/7DuD7WeW8R

— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) April 21, 2026

Got to love it. He'd consider a bail out of UAE for his complete incompetence.

Printer goes brrrr........for one of the wealthiest countries in the world.

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Huh thats weird, I was told 2 pages ago that I'm a gaslit sucker for believing those reports, now the President himself says its under consideration. I wonder if there will be any crow eaten?

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It has not happened yet. If it does happen, it will be a currency swap like we did for Argentina. We make money on those. Google is your friend...or you can just whine at any headline published.

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I'm sure you would have goaltended the same for biden

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KentK93 said:

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bigtruckguy3500 said:

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I like this guy's videos. If his take is correct though, we are not winning.

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Preston Stewart is Ukraine biased and hates President Trump so take what he says with a grain of salt and know his biases.

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He's definitely pro-Ukraine, anti-Russia. But I never got the vibe that he was anti-Trump. I felt he gave praise when it was due and called people out when necessary. Regardless, I don't feel like anything he said in his video is incorrect.

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His podcast "Unclassified" is pure one sided, anti Trump about geopolitics. his partner doing most of the snot slinging but Preston goes along with it.

Love how you people can't find one source you won't attack if it doesn't state exactly what your opinions are. Lol

https://t.co/GGwbAtAWmZ pic.twitter.com/3suq6gUw6s

— Rapid Response 47 (@RapidResponse47) April 22, 2026

Dungeon Crawler Carl said:

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Got to love it. He'd consider a bail out of UAE for his complete incompetence.

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What would you have done differently?

Allow Iran to stockpile conventional missiles until they could hold the world hostage while they made a Nuke?

Ukraine more helpful than the UK, France, Germany, Spain, and Italy...

🇺🇦🇺🇸 Reuters: The U.S. has started using Ukrainian counter-drone tech at Prince Sultan Air Base in Saudi Arabia after repeated Iranian drone attacks damaged aircraft and infrastructure.

Ukrainian teams are training U.S. forces on a system called Sky Map, which detects and helps… pic.twitter.com/dz36KHDYYN

— MAKS 25 🇺🇦👀 (@Maks_NAFO_FELLA) April 22, 2026

SCOOP: Clearing Strait of Hormuz of mines could take 6 months, officials tell Congresshttps://t.co/H031cXRrXg

— Dan Lamothe (@DanLamothe) April 22, 2026

Color me skeptical it would take that long. Other nations have minesweepers too and incentives to reopen the Strait ASAP.