TMF sent out an email and referenced that this was our best poll showing since 1992. Looked up the season, and we were 12-0, but not slated to play either of the other undefeated teams (Miami and Alabama). Was this considered a snub at the time, because it meant that there was no way we could have won the national title, no matter what happened in the bowl?

Unfortunately we lost badly 28-3 versus ND in the Cotton, so I guess it was moot..

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dabo man said:

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I think the '91 and '93 teams were both better than '92. '91 was the best, IMO, but we had a game at Tulsa where we turned the ball over something like seven times and lost by one point.

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I believe Bucky did not play that game due to injury. If he played we would not lost that game

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The game with an all freshman backfield due to injuries

Hank the Grifter said:

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The NEXT Cotton Bowl though….talk about a heartbreaker/nail biter.
I think we'd still be seeing highlights of the play has Leland caught that lateral.

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I got to see that one in person. Still hurts.

erube said:

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TMF sent out an email and referenced that this was our best poll showing since 1992. Looked up the season, and we were 12-0, but not slated to play either of the other undefeated teams (Miami and Alabama). Was this considered a snub at the time, because it meant that there was no way we could have won the national title, no matter what happened in the bowl?

Unfortunately we lost badly 28-3 versus ND in the Cotton, so I guess it was moot..

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In November we played at Houston and during halftime Lee Corso was arguing that a one loss Florida St should leap frog us in the polls if we didn't blow out the Cougars. The next week FSU moved ahead of us. there was a bit of anger at Lee back then, lol.

interesting that the 1992 team's best win...

was their first win vs. Stanford (10-3) -- the Pac-12 co-champions

the Cardinal finished ranked in the top 10

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The NEXT Cotton Bowl though….talk about a heartbreaker/nail biter.
I think we'd still be seeing highlights of the play has Leland caught that lateral.

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That was my first Aggie game, courtesy of another Texagger and his dad.

Hank the Grifter said:

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We didn't feel snubbed.
We knew we were good but not great.
I don't know how many of us thought we were gonna win that Cotton Bowl but we definitely didn't think we were gonna get blown out like we did. That was an eye opener.

The NEXT Cotton Bowl though….talk about a heartbreaker/nail biter.
I think we'd still be seeing highlights of the play has Leland caught that lateral.

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I was at that game and still remember that "oh so close" feeling.

The 1992 team was the weakest of the early 90's Aggie teams. True they had the best record, but several of those wins were very sloppy and much closer than they should have been. The national champs that year were Gene Stallings' Alabama team, which beat Miami. I don't remember anyone thinking we could have beaten either team.

All I remember about that Cotton Bowl was Jerome Bettis running and scoring all over us. That and RC kicking a last minute field goal to avoid the shutout.

I'm with Elko on this lets quit worrying about the past and focus on the now with this team. Different game teams etc.

phatty26 said:

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I'm with Elko on this lets quit worrying about the past and focus on the now with this team. Different game teams etc.

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Way too pragmatic. THIS IS THE ZOO, SIR…we come here to nostalgically dwell on our past failures.

The vibe at the end of the 1992 season was "We've got to get ourselves into a better conference."

I remember RC saying something like "We did everything we could. We won all our games." when we got left out of the MNC game. But a lot of this came out in the wash after we got rolled in the Bowl.

Obviously, in a better conference we'd've come out of the season EITHER better & an obvious choice for the MNC game OR already knowing our limits. I don't know exactly when the Big XII ball started to roll but I assume the strategic failure of our 92 season at least helped the Aggie leadership get motivated.

I was in HS and the vibe was great. No BAS at that time. It may have existed but without forums, 24 hour sports media, pocket computers etc. it did not trickle down to the HS level. You just went to the game, or watched on TV, and the vibe around the game was whatever reality you and your buddies had built up to gameday. I miss those days.

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or read about it in the newspaper since some games didn't make TV

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Also, we were obligated to play in the Cotton Bowl as SWC champions, as Alabama was obligated to play in the Sugar Bowl, and the winner of the Big 8 was obligated to play in the Orange Bowl, and the winner of the Big 10 & Pac-12 was obligated to play in the Rose Bowl

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But Miami as Big East "champion" could have gone to any bowl. Although it looks like they only played Temple, at Virginia Tech, West Virginia, and at Syracuse (4-0) in terms of conference games..Big East standings

1992 was undefeated but was not considered one the best teams in country or even the best team of the early 90's for the Ags
The SWC of the early 90's was not the SWC of the mid/late 80's..It was not very strong.
After we beat Notre Dame in the 1988 Cotton Bowl the SWC Champion would go on to lose the next 5 straight Cotton Bowls and in 4 of those games didnt even score a TD, including 3 straight losses in 1991, 1992 and 1993 without scoring a TD while being outscored 84-8.
Ags were competitive in 1994 Cotton Bowl but lost 24-21 to Notre Dame and Texas Tech was humiliated by USC in the 1995 Cotton Bowl as the SWC ended on a 7 game losing streak in the Cotton Bowl

back to 1992 though, Nobody though Texas A&M was one of the best teams in the country in 1992.
Offense was not very good.

We tried 3 quarterbacks in season opening win vs Stanford 10-7. Now that win did turn out to be our best win of the season by far as Stanford would go 10-3 in 1992 and finish #9 in country.

We did goto Baton Rouge the next game and beat LSU 31-22, but that was an LSU team that finished 2-9 in 1992.
Best effort of the season was at Texas, a 34-13 win.

we only beat 4 teams in 1992 that had a winning record
10-3 Stanford
6-5 Rice
7-5 Baylor
6-5 Texas

and we trailed in 5 games at halftime.. 6 if you include the Cotton Bowl loss.
7-0 vs Stanford
6-3 vs Tulsa
10-3 at Mizzou
10-7 vs Baylor
17-10 at Houston
7-0 vs Notre Dame

Jeff Granger miraculously survived a sure sack late in the game vs Tech otherwise Texas Tech beats us at Kyle Field 17-16. Ags converted and Terry Venetoulias hits a game winning fielg goal as time expires for a 19-17 win.


got destroyed by Notre Dame in Cotton Bowl. Only 7-0 at halftime but our offense was completely overmatched and lost 28-3.

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The vibe at the end of the 1992 season was "We've got to get ourselves into a better conference."

I remember RC saying something like "We did everything we could. We won all our games." when we got left out of the MNC game. But a lot of this came out in the wash after we got rolled in the Bowl.

Obviously, in a better conference we'd've come out of the season EITHER better & an obvious choice for the MNC game OR already knowing our limits. I don't know exactly when the Big XII ball started to roll but I assume the strategic failure of our 92 season at least helped the Aggie leadership get motivated.

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There was no MNC game to be left out of then, because there were no MNC games. All conferences had Bowl tie-ins back then. So, the undefeateds could not play each other. It was this inconvenience that led to the MNC game the BCS and then the playoffs. Occasionally you would get two undefeated teams after the bowls, so the voting services had to declare which one they believed was the better team. Hence, the "Mythical" in MNC.

What RC was politicking for was us and another team remaining undefeated and needing votes to get chosen #1 versus #2. That politicking was moot after we lost in spectacular Aggie BAS fashion. I was at that cold AF game. I'm still horse for yelling at ND to throw the ball. They didn't need to. Our fast, but undersized DL looked like they were on roller skates getting pushed back 10 yards on every play. It was so deafitng knowing they knew we couldn't stop pushing our DL off the LOS and committing to do that exclusively to steamroll us all the way down the field. Only bright side of the day for me was having breakfast with Ed Hargett.

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ABATTBQ87 said:

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Also, we were obligated to play in the Cotton Bowl as SWC champions, as Alabama was obligated to play in the Sugar Bowl, and the winner of the Big 8 was obligated to play in the Orange Bowl, and the winner of the Big 10 & Pac-12 was obligated to play in the Rose Bowl

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But Miami as Big East "champion" could have gone to any bowl. Although it looks like they only played Temple, at Virginia Tech, West Virginia, and at Syracuse (4-0) in terms of conference games..Big East standings

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Miami had played in the January 1991 Cotton Bowl and obliterated tu and had a Miami school record and Cotton Bowl record 202 yards in penalties. They were penalized 16 times, including nine times for unsportsmanlike conduct or personal fouls.

They were not going to be invited to Dallas since Notre Dame, a national brand with a good reputation for sportsmanship, was available.

dabo man said:

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I think the '91 and '93 teams were both better than '92. '91 was the best, IMO, but we had a game at Tulsa where we turned the ball over something like seven times and lost by one point.

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If you ever watch the game on U-Tube, that guy in the end zone seats in a maroon shirt yelling "R. C., are you out of your mind, punt the damn ball", is me. I think those Tulsa fans got more upset over the BTHO yell than any place I've ever been.

dabo man said:

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I think the '91 and '93 teams were both better than '92. '91 was the best, IMO, but we had a game at Tulsa where we turned the ball over something like seven times and lost by one point.

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That 91 Tulsa team was probably their best ... ever. Rader (if any of you remember him) had that team humming that year. My senior year in HS ... gave us tickets to the SMU game, that they won. Tulsa stands were still talking about the A&M victory. Ownby Stadium ... visitor side felt like a HS ... more like bleachers.

(Thankfully in 1992, played SMU at Cotton Bowl ... fun Halloween weekend in Dallas)


And AGREED ... our '91 A&M team was probably the best. Wrecking Crew was insane. Never quite got back to that level.

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Run over by a bus...

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That's how you get free tuition.

dabo man said:

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I think the '91 and '93 teams were both better than '92. '91 was the best, IMO, but we had a game at Tulsa where we turned the ball over something like seven times and lost by one point.

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Only game Bucky missed all year. Jeff Granger looked amazing in building a 21-3 halftime lead and then we tanked defensively in the 2nd half. Allowed the biggest comeback on all time ( at that time). Useless trivia - Gus Frerotte lead the comeback and he also had the largest comeback in NFL history a few year later

Jessie Cox was on his way to being an Aggie legend at LB

We were also #3 going into the Colorado game in 1995….so not the best since 1992.

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The 1992 team was the weakest of the early 90's Aggie teams. True they had the best record, but several of those wins were very sloppy and much closer than they should have been. The national champs that year were Gene Stallings' Alabama team, which beat Miami. I don't remember anyone thinking we could have beaten either team.

All I remember about that Cotton Bowl was Jerome Bettis running and scoring all over us. That and RC kicking a last minute field goal to avoid the shutout.

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This

Also, if I remember correctly we had a bunch of players suspended for that cotton bowl because the "no show" jobs scandal had just broken

dabo man said:

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I think the '91 and '93 teams were both better than '92. '91 was the best, IMO, but we had a game at Tulsa where we turned the ball over something like seven times and lost by one point.

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Right on!

My recollection is the Cotton Bowl could have invited FSU who was ranked 4 but the CB bypassed them for ND. The CB was always infatuated with ND, I think because they played tu in the 70 CB and it was their first appearance in a bowl game in many years.

FSU was pissed, as was I, because FSU was higher ranked but an easier matchup as they were built more on speed and quickness while ND was more brute force. ND ran between the tackles and had their way with our defensive front most of the game.