*****Official 2019/2020 Houston Astros offseason thread*****

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themissinglink
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Burn it all down... and fire manfred







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The real ***** of this is that when it does come to light that everyone was really doing it, like we have been saying all along, how does the MLB reconcile the damage they have done. We just lost draft picks because of these lies, we lost a coach and a GM because of these lies.

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If this comes out that the Yankees did something similar then they should recover a similar punishment (2 draft picks) and Joe should be fired from whoever he's at now.

The next step should be Manford's head. A commissioner covering up 1 teams cheating should piss off all the other owners, fans, and everyone else in baseball.
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And yet the Astros caught the brunt of this. That's what is bullsht.
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I still can't believe no one (except apparently Astros fans) believe this happened when Beltran came from NYY to here.
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https://climbingtalshill.com/2020/06/13/houston-astros-mlb-may-covered-yankees-sign-stealing-scheme/

Solid article by CTH. Doesn't reveal anything new but summarizes the situation nicely. Can't believe TCB hasn't written anything yet...
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From the plaintiff's filing.... I've got a guess at the redacted team name.

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Also can't wait to see that beech Jomboy try to back tracknhis way out.
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Yankees reporter saying it does not talk about sign stealing. Non-astros fans on the baseball subreddit are already trashing players and fans for premature celebration. Guess we'll see where this one lands.
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I saw that but I don't trust that guy. NY Yankees reporter writing a book on the Astros with stealing scandal. If the letter wasn't damning, the Yankees would not have argued releasing it would cause significant reputational damage.
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I bet this all ends up as nothing in the eyes of sports writers and fans outside of Houston. Like the Red Sox

We will continue to be the scape goats
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themissinglink said:

I saw that but I don't trust that guy. NY Yankees reporter writing a book on the Astros with stealing scandal. If the letter wasn't damning, the Yankees would not have argued releasing it would cause significant reputational damage.
Oh, absolutely, I definitely agree. Just need to get the letter out in the open and see what they're trying to hide.
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The same story about the cameras in left, right, and center is mentioned in this audio from January (from a different source), without the team being mentioned (starts @ 9:15).

https://thefandc.radio.com/media/audio-channel/ryan-spaeder-sign-stealing-scandal-extends-far-beyond-astros
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themissinglink said:

Burn it all down... and fire manfred








as an astros fan, i say, let it all come to light.
https://ts.la/eric59704
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k20dub said:


gd right i know i will be
https://ts.la/eric59704
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And I love it. I can understand fans dragging players through the mud, but the way the players dragged the Astros players through the mud really irritated me. I would be petty as heck if something about those same players came out. I hope it does and Judge and the Yankees have to apologize.

I really hope something about the Dodgers comes out so Bellinger has to apologize.
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I couldn't care less what this persons opinion is. She hasn't had her team and city drug through the mud. Once that happens we will get to see just how petty she would be in the same circumstances.
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MaxPower said:

I couldn't care less what this persons opinion is. She hasn't had her team and city drug through the mud. Once that happens we will get to see just how petty she would be in the same circumstances.


That's Colin McHugh's wife. She's good to have an opinion on this stuff.
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I don't think Manferd put a smoking gun in writing, even if it was supposed to be confidential. I think it'll basically be like the Red Sox. They obviously cheated, but their fans will still claim they didn't cheat as much as the Astros.
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But at this point I'm sure she's not happy that the Astros didn't try to resign him.
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Between not being able to negotiate an agreement with the players and now being busted for covering up cheating, Manford's head should be on a spike outside of MMP.

We all hate(d) Selig, but Manford has lapped him by now. **** that *****.
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Never thought I'd see the day to long for Selig to be back in charge. Heck the Stros may be playing all our games in Milwaukee but at least they'd be playing.
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agdaddy04 said:

Never thought I'd see the day to long for Selig to be back in charge. Heck the Stros may be playing all our games in Milwaukee but at least they'd be playing.


This really makes no sense. manfred is not the hold up to games being played.
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You're right. I'm just frustrated.
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I don't see how the owners can agree to no expanded playoffs and no concessions if the postseason is cancelled (and full pro-rata)
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here's why Mrs. McHugh is upset...

her husband's one-year contract with the Red Sox has only a $600k base salary.

but it's incentive-laden and based heavily upon innings pitched...that could push his salary into the $4 MM range.

however the combination of the COVID and the labor strife has severely capped his contract
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How can the Yankees argue they didn't do anything but releasing the memo would cause "significant reputational injury,"?
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Yankees should get punished during the 2021 season.

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Thinice said:

How can the Yankees argue they didn't do anything but releasing the memo would cause "significant reputational injury,"?



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