Buzz stole our spot?

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Charlie Murphy
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The Marksman said:

Buzz is quickly losing a lot of the good will we had for him
6 yeatrs, average success. One foot our the door since last season and left us with no roster. I really dont see how anyone could defend him at this point.
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They would not boot us for buzz. The most likely outcome here is we want a light non conference next year.
Proposition Joe
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t - cam said:

They would not boot us for buzz. The most likely outcome here is we want a light non conference next year.

They invited us because of buzz.

But yes I imagine our coach wasn't interested in going into the grinder with a new roster. Doesn't mean we won't participate in future years (or when other similar tournaments pop-up).
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Yeah, I mean swapping A&M for Maryland is a fairly easy call.
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Charlie Murphy said:

The Marksman said:

Buzz is quickly losing a lot of the good will we had for him
6 yeatrs, average success. One foot our the door since last season and left us with no roster. I really dont see how anyone could defend him at this point.
Buzzfan24 looking for someone to hold their beer.
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FTAG 2000 said:

Charlie Murphy said:

The Marksman said:

Buzz is quickly losing a lot of the good will we had for him
6 yeatrs, average success. One foot our the door since last season and left us with no roster. I really dont see how anyone could defend him at this point.
Buzzfan24 looking for someone to hold their beer.


Someone should probably do a wellness check on that guy. He's probably been crying himself to sleep for a week now
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To be fair I'd probably push back on "average success" and "one foot out the door." But what's the point, it's not like it matters now.
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Buzz:
  • Non- Conference - 12073 (.622)
  • Conference - 5644 (.560)
BK
  • 151116 (.566)
  • 6678 (.458)

Turgeon
  • 9740 (.708)
  • 3826 (.594)
BCG
  • 7026 (.729)
  • 3117 (.646)
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Charlie Murphy
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Sorry for the poor formatting. Maybe its me, what am I missing that made Buzz above average here? Could compare where they finished in conference by year as well but that doesnt help his case.
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GrayMatter
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It's kinda hard to gauge how good is "good" based on year to year records basis because opponents are different and in some years a different conference altogether.

I think Kenpom or Torvik ratings are better to use to compare.
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zgolfz85 said:

EMc77 said:

Pissed me off... Already had air and hotel booked for that...
send the bill to the maryland AD attn: buzz


Make sure to handwrite the letter so he'll read it.
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Kind of surprised...why would the tourney sponsors want a Maryland team that ranks 300th or worse in 3pt shooting and FT% ?
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Rumor has it that our players didn't get anything like what was advertised. Does anyone actually know what was received by our players? If the deal was done thru our Athletic Department, should that be available to us to see?

I'm just tryin to understand if there was actually harm to our program from Buzz's actions here and in particular to our one remaining player, Chris McDermott, or if the NIL stuff was mostly hype.
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GrayMatter said:

It's kinda hard to gauge how good is "good" based on year to year records basis because opponents are different and in some years a different conference altogether.

I think Kenpom or Torvik ratings are better to use to compare.
Think someone here a while ago said 4 of our top 10 best Torvik seasons ever were under Buzz. He didn't deliver that end goal of a deep tourney run like we wanted, but the people that act like he sucked here are way off base. He won a lot of games against really good teams

I hope Bucky works out because the last thing I need is another dark age
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Supposedly the school payouts went through, no clue on the individual stuff though. Would think it had to be a decent experience if Buzz wants back in
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1) Schedule tough non conference. No reason to hide. We've openly Tom the world we have 1 player. 2) let's get into that Vegas tournament anyway and go beat MD ass. With a TBD roster.
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EMc77 said:

Pissed me off... Already had air and hotel booked for that...


Go heckle buzz and put a $100 on green for me
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Texas_Ag11 said:

DTP02 said:

TyperWoods said:

It's on the tourney for letting him do that, if he did get us booted.

But someone here may not have wanted us to be in that tourney. IDK. Maybe Buzz called them before he turned in his resignation, telling his buddy A&M is no longer interested, but to invite Maryland when he gets there.


I'll reserve judgment until I get a look at the final roster, but I think it's somewhat likely that we may decide that a watered down non-con sked is the best thing for us.

You can build some momentum in year 1 by having a deceptively good record and beating up on bad teams in the non-conference. It's not going to help you get into the tourney, but we may look at our personnel in a month and it looks like a mid-major roster which would make the tourney unlikely at best.

And at that point we may decide discretion is the better part of valor.

Another consideration, and I don't know what Bucky's philosophy is on this or whether he's really been in a position to even develop a philosophy on it given his background, but it seems to me that a lot of high-paced run and gun type teams like to work out the kinks early in the season vs lesser opponents to kind of get their legs under them and get used to the pace in live action.
I would argue the opposite. If you have a bad roster, line em up and play em. That will only help get you ready for SEC play.


Meh confidence and being able to try tons of line ups can be helpful along with being reasonably fresh.

Mizzou's sos in non con was 226 pretty much just playing ku, Illinois and Memphis and they were just fine in sec play when they had tons of questions coming off an 0-18 conference play. Still ended up a 6 seed and could have been higher without a poor last few games.
Proposition Joe
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From what I read the payouts came through. But there's a lot of question on how exactly the tournament is sustaining itself because no way it generated that much money.

And while I heard it was well run, I know a few weeks before the tourney they shifted from a multi-session, ticket for each session to one ticket for multiple sessions which would indicate that demand wasn't near what they thought it would be.
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MarcAg said:



A&M no longer is showing as participating in the NIL tourney in Vegas. That's pretty big!

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PJYoung said:

MarcAg said:



A&M no longer is showing as participating in the NIL tourney in Vegas. That's pretty big!




Hopefully Bucky signed for TAMU and not just for Bucky.

I was a Buzz Backer, up until now. Looking forward to Bucky. Let's Go.

Where were the TAMU attorneys on this? Do they not review contracts?
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PJYoung said:

MarcAg said:



A&M no longer is showing as participating in the NIL tourney in Vegas. That's pretty big!



Wish we were in it this year and playing Maryland.
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Buzz doesn't want that smoke.


bobinator
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They won't lose tonight but I bet that game against Georgetown on Friday is dicey.
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WallyWonka said:

PJYoung said:

MarcAg said:



A&M no longer is showing as participating in the NIL tourney in Vegas. That's pretty big!




Hopefully Bucky signed for TAMU and not just for Bucky.

I was a Buzz Backer, up until now. Looking forward to Bucky. Let's Go.

Where were the TAMU attorneys on this? Do they not review contracts?

You have to assume every head coach is in it for themselves. The key is to have a good enough relationship and enough success that it's a mutually beneficial relationship.

" It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own interest. "
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Generally agree with you. A&M gave Bucky a big opportunity. Maybe he will be grateful.
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bobinator said:

They won't lose tonight but I bet that game against Georgetown on Friday is dicey.

Could be very dicey. They are dealing with some key injuries and don't have the guard depth that we have.


GrayMatter
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I'm ambivalent about the whole Buzz thing. It's a known fact that he had one foot out the door and I'm not sure that he gave us his best effort last year. On one hand, I really don't care how he does in Maryland and the other part of me hopes they lose.

Is it weird to say that I hope that he underperforms while Solo and Pharrel have good seasons?
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Solo is already in a boot
DukeMu
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PJYoung said:

MarcAg said:



A&M no longer is showing as participating in the NIL tourney in Vegas. That's pretty big!



Godfather move.
DukeMu
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CDub06 said:

Solo is already in a boot

I'd like to say I wish Buzz the best, but I don't. I'm not mad or bitter. I just don't care.
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DukeMu said:

CDub06 said:

Solo is already in a boot

I'd like to say I wish Buzz the best, but I don't. I'm not mad or bitter. I just don't care.


Agree.
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I'm so sorry I could just watch a game without being guided in my fanhood to acknowledge the coach's virtue signaling about anything other than winning the game on the floor.
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Hell yeah - I'm in!
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