For the women, I would be surprised if they sent both t.u. and A&M to Baylor because they try to avoid conference matchups in the first round. One of those two is going to Baylor though - either sips as a 2 seed or us as a 3. If we don't go to Baylor, I'm going to predict Ga. Tech. If the women don't win a first round match, they may finish out of the top 40 (currently 39 - ouch).

For the men, we will host and Oklahoma State will be the 2 seed with maybe TCU as the 3 seed and some crap conference winner as the 4.

Those are my guesses.

I kind of feel like they may send Rice here. I wouldn't mind another chance to beat them.

When will this be announced?

wouldn't be surprised if the women go to Arkansas either

I agree that Rice will be sent to BCS. Makes
economic and match up sense.
Unfortunately, the women will be sent to Baylor,
I doubt the NCAA will sent Texas there to lose,
they'll probably stay home.

Sherpa doesnt have a clue....


They announce today at 4. I was thinking we would go to Waco, but its not out of the question that the women host as well as the men. Maybe holding nationals in 2 weeks will help that cause.

Wishful thinking bigfoot. I doubt the women will host, especially with 2 better hosting candidates within 150 miles.

men dropped from 11 to 15 in the new rankings. texas jumped from 15 to 12.

would be very unlikely for the men not to host, being ranked in the top 16, having one of the top facilities, and also hosting the sweet 16. stranger things have happened, though. if we host, i predict we'll get rice or ok state or lsu, maybe the winner of the southland, and someone from the east coast.

i would be absolutely dumbfounded if the women somehow hosted.

Was hoping to hold onto to 12 or higher. Do not want to see Ohio State in the first round. Oh well, we will see what happens. Am in Italy so I am behind the curve on some of the developments. 7 hour time lag or advance depending on how you look at it, does not help either.

The women absolutely will not host. The only reason a top-16 team wouldn't host is either if they didn't have a suitable facility or if every team happened to be from one region. Looking at the women's top-16 it is a pretty decent geographical spread and all seem like schools that would have an adequate facility...plus if one of those schools doesn't qualify, they go to the next viable candidate. If we were 17 or 18 we might have a shot, but we're 39 - not a prayer. We'll definitely be a 3-seed somewhere and play a 17-32 team. Tulsa or LSU is who I think our first round opponent will be.

The only reason I can think that the men wouldn't host is that Baylor and t.u. will be hosting and they might not want 3 that close together...but then if you look at other teams in the vicinity that will be IN the tournament...OSU, Rice, TCU, LSU, Tulsa, Tx Tech, maybe OU...even New Mexico is closer to us than to any other host site...so that's 9 teams. It makes sense to let us host, as they have said that they are making a big effort to save money and have teams travel as little as possible.

From what I know of the way they do the tournament, they like to have a high 1 seed host a low 2-seed and so on...so they would try to pair the highest 1 seeds (#1-4 overall) with a low 2-seed (29-32 overall). They can't do it this way exactly because they really consider geography strongly, but as a "high" 3 seed, the women will probably play a "low" 2 seed and as a "low" 1 seed the men will probably get a "high" 2 seed. That's the basis for my guesses.

bigfoot you are a moron. There is no way the women will host

Let's keep it civil, sherpa. Ad Hominem, don't attack the person, attack his statement.


I think the women have a shot at beating a low 2-seed. Too bad that they'll get stuck with a high 1-seed, because they might have a chance at an upset of a 15-16 ranked team, but no way a 4 or 5 ranked team.

Who besides Baylor in the area is likely to host for Women?

I like what you said Harry about the teams in the area. Should be enough to allow us to host. Also, not having us host would force them to likely have host sites with 3 big 12 teams in them (unless they sent Tech, OSU, OU, us to further away regionals).

Is there ANY chance the women don't even make NCAAs?

I'm sure they are in, but what's usually the lowest ranking that gets in as an at-large?

Usually, as far as I can tell, it's pretty close to top 64. Unlike in basketball, rarely is there a conference champion who's not better than the 5th or 6th best team from the major conferences. (It happens but it's rare).

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Usually, as far as I can tell, it's pretty close to top 64. Unlike in basketball, rarely is there a conference champion who's not better than the 5th or 6th best team from the major conferences. (It happens but it's rare).

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That's certainly not true. There are absolutely tons of teams from crappy conferences ranked way worse than top 64 that get auto bids (just like basketball).

I just checked for myself last year bids compared to rankings. Looks like #47 Virginia was the highest ranked team that missed the NCAAs.

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The women will make it. Just like the NCAA basketball tournament, it all depends how many conference winners (automatic bids) are in the rankings, but top-40 is very safe.

Texas are twelve seeds, just like their ranking. Tech for them second round if they can beat washington.

Baylor is six seed and doesn't host. Tulsa does.

Man Baylor got screwed and we got a GREAT deal - Baylor has to go to Tulsa...they said something about NCAA geographic hosting principles. I figured that this might keep us out of hosting, but it's weird that they gave regionals to us and t.u. but shafted Baylor.

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Binghamton first round and then the winner of Arizona and A&M-CC

Ole Miss is two seed and does not host, plays at lsu.

We host, binghamton first round, winner of arizona and corpus second round. Ole Miss in sweet sixteen. Pretty damn good draw. Ole Miss is hot, but you never know...

Yeah Ole Miss is tough but #24 Arizona is a very beatable team to make the sweet 16.

The women go to Baylor and play SMU first round.

So glad our guys are hosting. Wasn't sure what was going to happen after they said Baylor wasn't because of geography. Kind of surprised about the teams we are playing, none of them were the ones I was predicting. I hope the girls are able to put up a good fight in Waco; hopefully at least make it to the second round.

We should get to the quarters. After that anything can happen. Losing in the Big 12 semis hurt our quarters draw quite a bit. A win over Ole Miss would be a huge upset.

Texas A&M's rounds one and two are exceptionally favorable. I question if TAMCC is a three seed.

I believe round of 16 is a slam dunk. No way ATM can lose to any of the three teams visiting College Station.

However, if they get to the round of 16 you might want to be sure to be there for the match. Ole Miss is a powerful team. Playing the next day would be a stretch.



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Arizona has had one of their best seasons, and beat Stanford when they were top 5... got blown out by USC and UCLA

they're dbls is very average and the ags should win the dubs...

1 - Goldman is a tough American lefty
2 - Arango - little fiesty lefty
3 - Carrasco - big forehand and great competitor - tough out
4/5 - Metham/Hezi - switch around - Metham is a huge 6'5 beast and Hezi is a total grinder
6 - Zarifros - has only lost 1 or 2 times at 6 all year but has been injured and sat out last few matches, if he is healthy line 6 is their best position

Dbls - EDGE - Ags
#1 - EDGE - Ags
#2 EDGE - Ags
#3 - Toss up
#4 - EDGE - Ags
#5 - EDGE - Zona
#6 - EDGE - Zona

Ags should win 4-1, 4-2

Let's hope Denton doesn't throw the match to TAMU-CC, since he maybe kinda graduated from there (or not).

Denton is a sip and was extremely happy to beat them in a great match on senior night. When he was at A&M-CC he recommended a recruit to the sip coach when it was clear he was not coming to A&M-CC. I think it was tu's #3 player. I like Denton more every time I hear him talk. Another great Bryne hire.

Do you remember the player he recommended to the coach at The University of Texas?

Cory, I agree with your evaluation.

Coryhub, I'm curious what you think of the NCAA's site selections. Why did Ole Miss and Baylor not get to host because of "geography", but Texas and UCLA are hosting with schools from all over the map?