Just looked at the state qualifiers on the UILtexas.org website. Which of these kids are our top recruits? One kid with a 44 in 100 free, another with 4:28 500 free, several 56 breast strokers. This has to be one the fastest years ever for the breast. Top 5 are all at 56! Seriously fast. That 20.3 50 free would be a nice addition as well.

I know Umbach is already heading to Stanford. Any word on the rest of the top qualifiers?

Well I just found the collegeswimming.com website so I'll answer a few of my questions. The 20.3 guy heading to the sips, the 500 kid heading to SoCal.

They almost never announce recruits, sometimes we don't find out who the class is until the next years roster shows up. Also with that beings said, I have absolutely no idea who they are going after this year

Some of the 4A times are also oustanding. 20.43 50 free. Boys 100 back, two under 49. The best flyer was DQ'd in the San Antonio regional. He's going to Michigan.

Look at girls 50 free in 5A. 8 girls under 24, and several are probably not really tapered.

I also wonder about divers. Who is Jay recruiting from where? We lose a huge amount of talent on both teams this year.

Off the top of my head, all of the big known-quantity (top 100?) American recruits are off the board.

Assume it's going to be another class of international swimmers/guys who pop up big at state meets. Most of the "name" swimmers you can come up with from the 5A meet are signed. Still seems to be a few sleepers in the crowd who are real specialist-types (swim one or two things extremely well).

An interesting name is James Taylor. From the same HS as Albert Riley (who was a late signing last year). Outstanding sprint breaststroker, which we'll need badly after Amini graduates, but that's about all he is right now. Could be a good value pickup - don't believe he's signed anywhere.

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Seems like we should be able to pick up a fast breaststroker. Between 4A and 5A their are 6 kids who went 56 at regionals.

The scary thing is that most of the best (the state's National Jr Team members and several more Trials swimmers) aren't even at this meet.

A few of the kids I know are swimming the meet but not resting. They are all saving it for Jr. Nationals.

I know some might not be tapered, but the girls 200 IM and 100 Fly look like great races.

Erac,

You are right, girls 100 fly they are all within .5 seconds of each other.

It's nice to at least already have the best women's breaststroke qualifier already signed.

AGBlastoff or anybody else,

Does A&M recruit the 2 year programs?

Seems to me that going with international swimmers is somewhat risky.

Why not pursue swimmers from Daytona State, Darton College, Indian River, Lincoln College, etc.?

They try.

NJCAA's is march 7-10th, i would definitely check out some kids from Indian River, Daytona State, Iowa Central etc... Wouldn't see why they don't atleast check it out

That being said, theyre arent a whole lot of high quality recruits coming out of the njcaa. But that is probably why tamu dualed indian river a couple years ago

http://www.njcaa.org/Teams/swimming_-_diving/2011/2011_NJCAA_Results.htm


Last year's results.

Any of these jump out at you?

500 Free, 200 IM, 100 Free, 200 Breast?

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I'd say recruiting JC is just as risky as recruiting internationally. There's a reason they ended up at JuCo's in the first place.

As was said above, NJCAA kids aren't as good as some like to think. They turn out one or two every once in a while...but coming in as a sophomore with a 20.72, and potentially a shaky academic background (though I recognize that's not the only reason kids go to Juco's)? You can do better picking up some of the slew of 21's and turnining them into 20.5's by the time they're sophomores.

Just thought of this because I remembered this guy from back in the day Florida Swimming and wondered where he is.

http://www.arizonawildcats.com/sports/m-swim/mtt/wyman_kelley00.html

I get what you're saying but if the risks are about even wouldn't it just be easier to stay in North America?

There definitely is some talent and the kids go to jucos for various reasons. Some go to bridge the gap between high school and the d1 program of their choice. Others go because academically they cant cut it, while others are nut cases. Some of those top tier guys though... I would definitely love to see with an ATM logo on their cap.

Those times look no better than the qualifiers for 5A state in Texas. The women are probably slower than the 5A qualifiers.

I'm sorry but I don't like that choice at all. Fast girls won't go juco because there are more scholarships available at real schools. The fast guys that go juco, I don't know why they would go that route unless their grades are a problem.

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Those times look no better than the qualifiers for 5A state in Texas.

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But as noted those qualifiers aren't going to A&M either (I'm not talking about the women.)

I think A&M should take a chance on the next Kelley Wyman.

Some good times there. Men's 200 Breast, 200 Back, 200 IM.

It could be grades, lack of maturity, etc. but some of these kids aren't ready for D1 regardless of how fast they are. That has never happened with incoming A&M swimmers though, right?

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other than the breaststroker, the a&m men's freshman guys are comparable to all of the ones you pointed out... and one/two years younger. add in redshirt Diego Suarez (2:20.9 LCM this summer) and you're even further off.

heck, put just the freshman and sophs in the JC meet and they would destroy Indian River and Daytona.

i'm sure the coaches would love to get de angelo, wyman, walling, louw, and all the mega studs that come out. spoiler alert - they all go to Florida, Auburn and Arizona. nothing new.

besides, the JC vs International thing is moot since 90% of the JC difference makers are international.

Wyman happened to fall into the hands of one of the top two sprint coaches in the country - Rick Demonte. Now THERE'S a guy I'd love to have in College Station...

So a good long course swim makes this off?

Hey not looking for an arguement! Kelley Wyman got my attention because of where he came from and where he is now. I saw him swim years back and was curious where he was along with his high school teammate Joe Ziegler (Alabama). http://www.rolltide.com/sports/c-swim/mtt/ziegler_joe00.html

I am hoping that being in the SEC will improve A&M's chances in landing top local recruits.

2012 SEC Championships ongoing:

http://www.utsports.com/sports/m-swim/spec-rel/2012-sec-championships.html

A couple of last year's JC guys are swimming. John Ellis-Alabama (500 Free, 400 IM, 1650) and Raymond DePaudua-LSU (100 Fly, 100 Back, 200 Fly)

Didn't see your SEC meet post Spicewood, sorry about the double!

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You are right, girls 100 fly they are all within .5 seconds of each other.

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This race lived up to its billing 0.42 between 1st and 8th.

Top time DQ'd