Thumbs up or thumbs down that Corbelli stays

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HummingbirdSaltalamacchia
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no disrespect to coach, i am kind of hoping for some new blood. $Bill has shown he can go out and get the best (coach henry for track), get a fantastic up-and-comer (BCG) or a turn-around guy (Gary Blair). i think if he decided to make a change he would shock the program out of the "stagnation" that is hurting it. just my $.02

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Barney Fife
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Keep her.
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Downward trend. Not much sign of life either. Big 12 cellar. I like Corbelli, but A&M doesn't pay her for the results we're getting.
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venzor
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1 more yr
bqce
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I wish they would replace her, but I think BB wants another year out of her. I really, really hope I'm wrong.
bqce
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Shoulda been thumbs up.
Oh Four Five
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They deserve 1 more.
whoop87
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Honestly, I can see both sides. But the question I have to ask is not whether they deserve more but does A&M deserve more?

The recruiting has been the downfall of the program and one more year will not improve that, especially since they are only signing one scholarship player for next season and searching for a walk-on to increase team height.

I think it's time for a change, but you also have to take into consideration who may or may not be available.

I think Texas A&M needs to see that the game is changing and Aggie Volleyball needs to make changes to keep up.
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she's my hero

wannaggie
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Here's where I stand on this:
Considering the fact that the four years before this year were recruiting no-shows in terms of results (which isn't to say that the players aren't good players individually, but the coach's job is to recruit individuals who can be combined into a successful team, which has clearly not been the case), considering the W-L record has been on a downward trend during that whole time, I feel that kind of multi-year failure rightfully earns the boot.

However, she brought in some good potential this year, and pulling the carpet out from under her five freshman recruits does not feel like a very "Aggie" thing to do. If the Corbellis were dismissed, it would be proper for us to give unconditional releases to all team members. Depending upon the bond already formed, freshmen often don't want to stay for three more years as the new coach's "stepchildren". Therefore with Hahn graduating, bringing in someone new this year could set off an exodus of every significant player. So I almost want to give another year just to keep from completely destroying the program.

Basically, it's a tossup. If I were the one making the choice, I would go ahead and put the word out as discreetly as possible but not make any move until after 2007 unless I had an extremely promising candidate I wanted to lock up immediately.

But I'm not the one.
Byrne knows what he is doing so I'm just going to trust him to make the right decision. He oversaw the transition from Pettit to Cook at Nebraska, and there's no denying the success of Husker volleyball. With our outstanding volleyball facilities, great traditions, excellent student and alumni support, and membership in one of the three premier volleyball conferences, there would be no shortage of quality applicants for a head coaching job here.

[This message has been edited by wannaggie (edited 11/30/2006 5:08p).]

[This message has been edited by wannaggie (edited 12/1/2006 2:34p).]
NewJerseyAggie
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7 thumbs up 2 thumbs down and 2 toss ups
whoop87
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I see 4 that say "Stay" (BarneyFife, venzor, redass and TheHit) and 4 that say "Go" (AltAgDX, Aggienk, whoop87, bqce) and one toss up (djrun01).

I think that pretty much sums up the whole story...it's about even. Points can be made for both sides, but I really see that the decline won't stop without a change in administration.
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I think she should go, but I think she stays, which is why I gave the thumbs up. That was the question, right?
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I think she gets another year.

Though, I think our recruiting and development over the past few years has fallen some, and because of that we should consider replacing her if there is a good coach available.

Sorry meant to be a thumbs up.

[This message has been edited by rpr52121 (edited 12/3/2006 9:43p).]
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Has anyone paid attention to the new 6'6" recruit from Kansas who announced her commitment? She will bring some needed height to the front row!

With the team only graduating one senior, coach Corbelli will have many young players who now have experience at this level. I say give her another chance!
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She had a top 5 recruiting class last year.... she needs a chance to work with these girls..... I give her at least two more years....... I think she will "right the ship!"
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wannaggie
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...top 5 according to a source that most people in college volleyball do not consider as authoritative as John Tawa's PrepVolleyball ranking, which put the class at #11.

Was it a good group of potential?
Yes.

Does it justify or erase the four-year atrophy of the program before now?
No.

I say one year with this group. If she doesn't finish in the top 3 of the Big 12, out with her.
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Allow her to develop this current crop.
HummingbirdSaltalamacchia
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im only playing devils advocate here, but what if we let her stay to "develop" the new class, and we continue to suffer in mediocrity. then we would have wasted one of the more talented fish classes we've had

or we could let her go and screw over all these girls that came to A&M for her.

sucks either way.

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>>it would be proper for us to give unconditional releases<<

No, it wouldn't. Just because a coach recruited them doesn't make them servants of the coach. They came to A&M.

>>If she doesn't finish in the top 3 of the Big 12, out with her.<<

This theory is flawed. What if she finishes 4th, but doesn't make the tournament? She'd likely have a winning record and people would be on here saying, "you can't fire her now."

We need new leadership there.
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What really needs to happen is...someone needs to start a "Laurie needs a stache" thread!!! Has way more potential that the infamous "Fran needs a stache" thread.
NewJerseyAggie
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Well its after the women's championship and LC is still the head coach (knock on wood)
wannaggie
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quote:
>>it would be proper for us to give unconditional releases<<

No, it wouldn't. Just because a coach recruited them doesn't make them servants of the coach. They came to A&M.


That's a nice sentiment but is not reality. Stanford, UCLA, Nebraska, are programs that recruit themselves and will always be destinations for the top recruits regardless of the head coach. For most of the 300 other Division I schools, there is very little to distinguish one school from another unless a potential recruit has a strong dedication to a specific academic discipline. Scholarship athletes are just like other students; they have an idea of what they want to do, but will probably change their minds at least once. They can major in "business management" or "kinesiology" or "communications" pretty much anywhere. They choose School A over School B because School A is close/away from their family, and the coach from School A made them feel comfortable with his/her personal style and he/she hinted that the recruit could get a lot of attention and playing time.

If a coach with a completely different personality and game plan comes in before a player's sophomore year, that player may no longer be a good fit for the coaching staff, and there are many other schools out there with equivalent athletic facilities and academics but a coach more fitting to the player's personality.

Let me put it this way: if the Corbellis were fired, and in their place Byrne hired some yelling screaming slavedriving clipboard-throwing hothead like, say, Jerritt Elliott, would you still expect the Corbelli recruits to stay and have to go to every practice and suit up for every game and still only ride the bench for three years because "they came to A&M"?

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>>If she doesn't finish in the top 3 of the Big 12, out with her.<<

This theory is flawed. What if she finishes 4th, but doesn't make the tournament? She'd likely have a winning record and people would be on here saying, "you can't fire her now."

What I said is what I meant. She has no chance to be number 1 or number 2 next year - the Huskers and Horns are miles ahead of her - but many of the other Big 12 schools who leapfrogged us will be down next year, and if she can't finish third with more than a year of experience in the alleged #4 recruiting class in the nation, then that says all we need to know about the future. Anything less than third or another season that ends before December should be instant dismissal.

It still amazes me that the Corbellis produced Stacy Sykora, who went on to have a pro career in international leagues and be the libero for the USA National Team, yet in the last three years they have produced Aggie squads that had several big hitters standing around picking their noses because the first touch never got anywhere near the setter. I remember watching this program grow in the first ten years after Laurie and John came here, and I remember watching Aggie girls pass and dig the !@� out of big west coast hitters in pre- and post-season.

These days we can't even get the ball up against some nobody conference foes, much less "hang" with tough serves like Nebraska's. Here are some passing highlights from this season:
TEAM - Number of aces in a match against us
Colorado State - 6
LSU - 12
St. Louis - 8
Oklahoma - 6
Missouri - 9
Kansas State - 9
Colorado - 11
Tech - 9
Nebraska - 8
Colorado - 9
Baylor - 10
UT - 9
Iowa State - 11
Nebraska - 7
Tech - 7




[This message has been edited by wannaggie (edited 1/2/2007 2:02p).]
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Keep her.
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