Call your shot.

Tony - dies
Jon - dies
Sansa - lives
Arya - dies
Bran - lives

You're optimistic.

C@LAg said:

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Brian Earl Spilner said:

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You're optimistic.

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no more stark's are dying.

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I agree with that.


That said, what's the theory behind Jon becoming the next Night's King. I've seen this posted several times. Didn't the COTF create the Night's King as basically a biological weapon against men, but screwed up when they couldn't control him or the magic they created? Why does there have to be another Night's King if the current one bites it in S8?

Urban Ag said:

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C@LAg said:

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Brian Earl Spilner said:

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You're optimistic.

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no more stark's are dying.

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I agree with that.


That said, what's the theory behind Jon becoming the next Night's King. I've seen this posted several times. Didn't the COTF create the Night's King as basically a biological weapon against men, but screwed up when they couldn't control him or the magic they created? Why does there have to be another Night's King if the current one bites it in S8?

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Agree as well. I think Tony lives (Cap dies).
I think if any other has a chance to die it would be Arya, and I just can't see it. I don't think Jon is the Night King, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Night King is indeed an old Stark.

They all dead

everyone dies, white walkers rule the earth.

schmendeler said:

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everyone dies, white walkers rule the earth.

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This is my hope.

Jon - lives
Sansa - dies
Arya - lives
Bran - becomes a tree
Tony - lives (retires, gets married in Avengers Endgame mid credits)

I feel like Jon and Arya will die because it makes the most thematic sense.

Jon - Has already died and is on borrowed time.
Arya - Stole from the Many-Faced God with all the people she's killed and has to pay for death with life

I have this sneaking suspicion that the good guys will have victory in their grasp and one character is gonna blow it (think starlord).

I've been assuming that they put up a good fight but end up having to retreat south and abandon Winterfell.

But, I'm not sure how you can have all of our main characters traveling across half of Westeros in a 6 episode season.

That episode really bothers me.

Such lazy writing.

I did think it was cheesy how a perfectly timed dragon saved them from a getting killed on the frozen lake. That was a Spielberg-esq resolution to that problem.

In previous seasons, it was easy to write off as storylines not happening simultaneously. (ie. Arya making it from Bravos to The Twins in 2 episodes, Varys making it from Mereen > Dorne > Mereen in 2 episodes, etc.)

But in this case, it was a single storyline and over a single day. (Or 2 days max.)

It's just ridiculous.

And for what? To capture a single wight? And risk the King in the North? A half-assed, cockamamie "plan" to convince Cersei, suggested by Tyrion, no less. One of the smartest characters in the show.

It's really the only time I can remember being actually upset after an episode. I was so hyped about that episode, too.

Give me Battle of the *******s over that episode, all day.

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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In previous seasons, it was easy to write off as storylines not happening simultaneously. (ie. Arya making it from Bravos to The Twins in 2 episodes, Varys making it from Mereen > Dorne > Mereen in 2 episodes, etc.)

But in this case, it was a single storyline and over a single day. (Or 2 days max.)

It's just ridiculous.

And for what? To capture a single wight? And risk the King in the North? A half-assed, cockamamie "plan" to convince Cersei, suggested by Tyrion, no less. One of the smartest characters in the show.

It's really the only time I can remember being actually upset after an episode. I was so hyped about that episode, too.

Give me Battle of the *******s over that episode, all day.

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I am unaware of the complaint regarding the Battle of the *******s. What is that all about?

Didn't say there was. I'm just comparing the penultimate episode of S7 to the previous season's.

I guess you could make comparisons to the Vale saving the day like Dany's dragons. Except, that was properly set up and not nearly as ridiculous.

Gotcha.. I misunderstood.

I thought you were saying "even the problems with the Battle of the *******s, I prefer it to THAT!!!"

C@LAg said:

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Brian Earl Spilner said:

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That episode really bothers me.

Such lazy writing.

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it does not bother me that much. the TV show has never dwelt on how "large" Westeros is, like the books have. So waiting for storylines to match up has not been that big of an issue.

That said. ALL those things happening in one episode was ridiculous.

I mean, at least have her staged at Eastwatch as part of the scheme to capture a wight.
Such a simple fix.

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Yep. I mean, you could have even had Dany just have a hunch that things went wrong and fly on over. But the Gendry marathon dash on snow and ice no less was just silly.

But the worst part of S7 for me was Jon showing up for the meeting in KL dressed like he's on an expedition in Antarctica while everyone else is normally dressed for the climate. Then the infomercial the he and Davos put on for Cersei was just cheesy.

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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Call your shot.

Tony - dies
Jon - dies
Sansa - lives
Arya - dies
Bran - lives

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1/1 so far.