Figured I'd ask. I'm defining a "cross-thread spoiler" as a comment/comparison/meme from one series or movie posted on another thread about an entirely different subject.
bobinator said:
Note: This does not apply if the reference is to a big 'twist.' For example 'Bruce Willis was dead the whole time.' If you're referencing a twist, then like... five years.
bobinator said:
For me it depends on the popularity of the reference. But here's a series of rules I just now came up with for how long you have to wait before it's okay to reference something that's a spoiler.
Hugely popular tv shows: 48 hours
Blockbuster movies: A week
Less popular TV-only shows: 24 hours after the last episode of the season
Shows where whole seasons are released at once (ex: Stranger Things): a month
Non-blockbuster movies: two months
Note: This does not apply if the reference is to a big 'twist.' For example 'Bruce Willis was dead the whole time.' If you're referencing a twist, then like... five years.
Not enough time, IMO. I work with somebody who was late to Game of Thrones, and has been binge watching it for a couple months and is just now 3 episodes from the end. I suspect she is not alone. She's been basically sequestering herself from everything she can, but yet was still spoiled on big plot points.bobinator said:
For me it depends on the popularity of the reference. But here's a series of rules I just now came up with for how long you have to wait before it's okay to reference something that's a spoiler.
Hugely popular tv shows: 48 hours
Blockbuster movies: A week
Less popular TV-only shows: 24 hours after the last episode of the season
Shows where whole seasons are released at once (ex: Stranger Things): a month
Non-blockbuster movies: two months
Note: This does not apply if the reference is to a big 'twist.' For example 'Bruce Willis was dead the whole time.' If you're referencing a twist, then like... five years.
bobinator said:
In person is completely different. You can just simply ask everyone involved in the conversation if they've seen whatever it is so there's really no limit there.
But if someone is willingly venturing onto an entertainment-focused message board, then I think what I posted is pretty reasonable. That's like recording a sporting event that you don't want to know the score of and then walking into a sports bar.
Now, I could agree that if for some reason you're referencing something on another board like the football board then maybe a universal longer time of like a month is better. But this is the entertainment board, it's a place where people talk exclusively about movies/shows/etc. After those given time frames you enter at your own risk.
I do not think your sports bar analogy is good. People go to sports bars to actually watch the sporting event and they know that ESPN will show every score of every game on the bottom of the screen. We do not come to the entertainment board to actually watch movies, but to discuss them.bobinator said:
In person is completely different. You can just simply ask everyone involved in the conversation if they've seen whatever it is so there's really no limit there.
But if someone is willingly venturing onto an entertainment-focused message board, then I think what I posted is pretty reasonable. That's like recording a sporting event that you don't want to know the score of and then walking into a sports bar.
Now, I could agree that if for some reason you're referencing something on another board like the football board then maybe a universal longer time of like a month is better. But this is the entertainment board, it's a place where people talk exclusively about movies/shows/etc. After those given time frames you enter at your own risk.
I agree, if the title of the thread doesn't clearly state what is being discussed, then don't spoil another show.MW03 said:bobinator said:
In person is completely different. You can just simply ask everyone involved in the conversation if they've seen whatever it is so there's really no limit there.
But if someone is willingly venturing onto an entertainment-focused message board, then I think what I posted is pretty reasonable. That's like recording a sporting event that you don't want to know the score of and then walking into a sports bar.
Now, I could agree that if for some reason you're referencing something on another board like the football board then maybe a universal longer time of like a month is better. But this is the entertainment board, it's a place where people talk exclusively about movies/shows/etc. After those given time frames you enter at your own risk.
I don't know about that. It seems like you should be able to go on to this board and read threads about certain shows, movies, albums, etc without having to be worried about a random joke post spoiling a movie you haven't seen.
I know a lot of you guys are able to stay very current, and I'm envious. But that's not everybody's situation. I mean, after a point it was on me that I hadn't seen Endgame for a month. But a week? 2 days for TV? That's nuts.
Agree. And if I am posting an Endgame spoiler in a thread about GoT, I should do this (an example not a real spoiler):Eso si, Que es said:I agree, if the title of the thread doesn't clearly state what is being discussed, then don't spoil another show.MW03 said:bobinator said:
In person is completely different. You can just simply ask everyone involved in the conversation if they've seen whatever it is so there's really no limit there.
But if someone is willingly venturing onto an entertainment-focused message board, then I think what I posted is pretty reasonable. That's like recording a sporting event that you don't want to know the score of and then walking into a sports bar.
Now, I could agree that if for some reason you're referencing something on another board like the football board then maybe a universal longer time of like a month is better. But this is the entertainment board, it's a place where people talk exclusively about movies/shows/etc. After those given time frames you enter at your own risk.
I don't know about that. It seems like you should be able to go on to this board and read threads about certain shows, movies, albums, etc without having to be worried about a random joke post spoiling a movie you haven't seen.
I know a lot of you guys are able to stay very current, and I'm envious. But that's not everybody's situation. I mean, after a point it was on me that I hadn't seen Endgame for a month. But a week? 2 days for TV? That's nuts.
real example: reading Game of Thrones thread, it is not cool to spoil Avengers: End Game with an off hand comment. It is cool to discuss everything GOT related that has been released without fear of spoilers, because it is a thread dedicated to discussing said show and current progress. However: It is not cool to read a spoiler on Reddit and then make a prediction about how GOT is going to end because you have been tainted by reading Reddit spoilers. It is even worse when you say, I have been reading Reddit spoilers and most people are going to be very upset with the ending; and then 2 pages later say, I think the mad queen theory is right and I predict the unsullied and Dothraki are going to go nuts and destroy Kings Landing (a week before episode 5).
if someone self outs themselves as reading spoilers, it is best to just block them at that point because they are tainted.
(I think it is OK to discuss GOT ending even on a cross thread at this point, but spoiler tags anyways.
I think it is reasonable to be able to expect for somebody to be able to discuss one movie while not getting spoiled on others. There are people, like me, who are unable to see a movie within a week of release. We are driving kids to soccer games on weekends, going out of town, waiting until kids get home from college, etc.bobinator said:
I guess I'm looking at it not so much in how long I would wait to post a spoiler reference, because I'd probably wait a month or so for most anything and I'd probably spoiler tag it anyway, but more like how long I think I should reasonably be able to expect to avoid a spoiler.
If there's something big I haven't seen yet, I completely avoid this board until I've seen it.
But if it's something like Endgame, and it's been a whole week, I no longer have the expectation that I'm not going to get something spoiled if I venture onto the board. And same with something like a mega TV show like Game of Thrones or something, though GOT was probably in a class by itself in that regard so making a blanket rule based on that one show is probably a bad call.
Yeah, some people are A-holes.bobinator said:
It probably is reasonable, but I don't trust people.
A year? On the internet? Never going to happenaTmAg said:Not enough time, IMO. I work with somebody who was late to Game of Thrones, and has been binge watching it for a couple months and is just now 3 episodes from the end. I suspect she is not alone. She's been basically sequestering herself from everything she can, but yet was still spoiled on big plot points.bobinator said:
For me it depends on the popularity of the reference. But here's a series of rules I just now came up with for how long you have to wait before it's okay to reference something that's a spoiler.
Hugely popular tv shows: 48 hours
Blockbuster movies: A week
Less popular TV-only shows: 24 hours after the last episode of the season
Shows where whole seasons are released at once (ex: Stranger Things): a month
Non-blockbuster movies: two months
Note: This does not apply if the reference is to a big 'twist.' For example 'Bruce Willis was dead the whole time.' If you're referencing a twist, then like... five years.
I basically assume a year for everything, and ask the person if they have seen the show/movie just in case.
Edit: at a previous employer, there was a guy who long ago spoiled Return of the Jedi to somebody. That somebody in turn spoiled some subsequent big movie to the first guy. Then it turned into a spol-a-thon between those two for every movie, but innocent bystanders became collateral damage. By the time I joined the company, the "tradition" evolved to the point where the entire group would go watch the movie together on opening night right after work to avoid getting spoiled. If you didn't go that first viewing, then you were out of luck. It sorta sucked. I've always hated going to movies on opening night. I would at typically least wait a week or so to avoid lines.
I'm saying that I personally assume a year or so when I am talking to people.MBAR said:A year? On the internet? Never going to happenaTmAg said:Not enough time, IMO. I work with somebody who was late to Game of Thrones, and has been binge watching it for a couple months and is just now 3 episodes from the end. I suspect she is not alone. She's been basically sequestering herself from everything she can, but yet was still spoiled on big plot points.bobinator said:
For me it depends on the popularity of the reference. But here's a series of rules I just now came up with for how long you have to wait before it's okay to reference something that's a spoiler.
Hugely popular tv shows: 48 hours
Blockbuster movies: A week
Less popular TV-only shows: 24 hours after the last episode of the season
Shows where whole seasons are released at once (ex: Stranger Things): a month
Non-blockbuster movies: two months
Note: This does not apply if the reference is to a big 'twist.' For example 'Bruce Willis was dead the whole time.' If you're referencing a twist, then like... five years.
I basically assume a year for everything, and ask the person if they have seen the show/movie just in case.
Edit: at a previous employer, there was a guy who long ago spoiled Return of the Jedi to somebody. That somebody in turn spoiled some subsequent big movie to the first guy. Then it turned into a spol-a-thon between those two for every movie, but innocent bystanders became collateral damage. By the time I joined the company, the "tradition" evolved to the point where the entire group would go watch the movie together on opening night right after work to avoid getting spoiled. If you didn't go that first viewing, then you were out of luck. It sorta sucked. I've always hated going to movies on opening night. I would at typically least wait a week or so to avoid lines.