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9:54a, 8/2/19
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Directed by Sam Mendes (Skyfall). I don't know about Tommen Baratheon in a starring role, but looks like a solid supporting cast in Colin Firth, Benedict Cumberbatch, and Mark Strong.

Plot premise: At the height of the First World War, two young British soldiers are given a seemingly impossible mission. In a race against time, they must cross enemy territory and deliver a message that will stop a deadly attack on hundreds of soldiers.

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10:00a, 8/2/19
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Ww1 is so fascinating to me. Growing up i was a huge ww2 buff. Movies, literature, everything sort of ignored ww1.

In hindsight now, ww1 was the most pivotal event in human history

Greatest tragedy ever.

Needs so much more exploration and understanding.
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10:01a, 8/2/19
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looks promising
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In reply to cbr • 10:04a, 8/2/19
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agree and disagree but from a cinematic perspective it has to be a lot harder to attract audiences to trench warfare as compared the dynamics of the true air, sea, and land campaigns that were WWII.
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10:07a, 8/2/19
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I agree. The politics leading up to the outbreak of The War is so interesting, yet it seems so under told on the big screen.
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In reply to Urban Ag • 11:39a, 8/2/19
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Urban Ag said:
agree and disagree but from a cinematic perspective it has to be a lot harder to attract audiences to trench warfare as compared the dynamics of the true air, sea, and land campaigns that were WWII.
i think there are several reasons for it and you point out one:

trench warfare just seems so frustratingly pointless and tragic, with so little opportunity for anything but mud and death.

it lacks the easy branding that ww2 yields as well, swastika, rising sun, etc., so easy for propagandists. surprise attacks. good guys bad guys etc. (yet somehow the worst guys were our allies)...

but there is so much more to ww1, the early aces, the sea battles, the other theaters. Under Exposed. I was shocked that the 100 year anniversaries came and went quietly.

the buildup was so complex too.

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In reply to cbr • 11:48a, 8/2/19
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cbr said:
Under Exposed. I was shocked that the 100 year anniversaries came and went quietly.


The Brits did some interesting stuff for the WWI centennials.





I think WWI is more the forgotten war here in the US than Korea. I became interested in WWI as a kid from the Young Indiana Jones Chronicles and even did a history fair project on the Battle of the Somme. Still pissed I lost to a kid who did an Alamo diorama with modern soldiers.
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11:50a, 8/2/19
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I think a drama about the Royal families would do quite well, especially between the Kaiser and Czar. They were cousins and good friends that grew up together but they couldn't stop the momentum of war even in their own courts. They tried to prevent the conflict even up until the initial fight. In the end though they were both deposed as European warfare could no longer be used as a political distraction.
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11:52a, 8/2/19
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Very impressive ceremony.

WWI loomed large in the British consciousness because so many Brits died in it. No wonder they were so reluctant to go to commit to another land war on the continent.
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11:57a, 8/2/19
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Anyone who hasn't listened to Dan Carlin's Blueprint for Armageddon podcast needs to put that at the top of their entertainment to do list.

It's about 20 hours long, but sooooooo worth it.
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12:35p, 8/2/19
Yeah WW1 is just depressing and pointless.
From entangled alliances that started a world war over a single guy being killed, to trench warfare, to chemical warfare and those god awful suits, to the relatively anticlimactic end with basically no territory being won or lost...
And add to that, the treaty of Versailles meant to end all future wars in Europe largely created WW2, and the whole thing seems pointless on every level. But I guess that in itself makes an important point about the futility of war, just don't need to watch several hours of wasted carnage to know that.
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In reply to oragator • 12:47p, 8/2/19
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It was more a result of the rapid change of technology and the expense to keep a viable military in place. Nations spent such a large percent of their budget on quickly obsoleted militaries that they were almost compelled to go to war to justify their budget. Nations were primed and planning to go to war. Franz Ferdinand was an excuse.

That combined with generals insisting on using outdated strategies against modern weaponry - like charging machine guns - multiplied the casual exponentially.

Again, I can't recommend Dan Carlin enough.
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In reply to oragator • 12:48p, 8/2/19
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oragator said:
Yeah WW1 is just depressing and pointless.
From entangled alliances that started a world war over a single guy being killed, to trench warfare, to chemical warfare and those god awful suits, to the relatively anticlimactic end with basically no territory being won or lost...
And add to that, the treaty of Versailles meant to end all future wars in Europe largely created WW2, and the whole thing seems pointless on every level. But I guess that in itself makes an important point about the futility of war, just don't need to watch several hours of wasted carnage to know that.
Bingo. Just an utterly pointless waste of life. That's the first thing that always comes to mind when I think of WWI. Fighting, what could be argued an 18th century war, with 19th century tactics, using 20th century weapons. Just a gristmill of humanity.
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In reply to Bobcat06 • 1:02p, 8/2/19
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Bobcat06 said:
Anyone who hasn't listened to Dan Carlin's Blueprint for Armageddon podcast needs to put that at the top of their entertainment to do list.

It's about 20 hours long, but sooooooo worth it.


This x 1000

It's one of the best stories I've ever listened to. I refer it all the time but folks get intimidated by the length, which is dumb because to understand WWI you have to be willing to get the entire picture.
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1:44p, 8/2/19
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This looks like it has potential. I'm in.
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In reply to Bobcat06 • 1:51p, 8/2/19
Yeah I was simplifying it a bit, but I was a history major, I know the background. But even as a history major it's depressing to explore. There is just nothing good or remotely redeeming about it, other than a few individual heroes or stories. Every new page you read is just another depressing or frustrating fact on it.
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3:39p, 8/2/19
I didn't realize how much the war impacted the culture of the UK until I visited there, and started consuming more of their media.

Then I found the Dan Carlin podcast. Fascinating.

I think the main reason we gloss over it here is because it didn't impact us nearly as much. We entered the war late and lost a relatively small number of men. They lost nearly a whole generation. And it wasnt the complete homefront effort for us like it was for WWII.

We tend to think of it as just the prelude to WWII. We didn't feel in the way Europe did.

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4:49p, 8/2/19
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I think there was a thread about this documentary a few months ago but it would serve as a good primer.

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5:01p, 8/2/19
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it was much more than pointless.

it pivoted western european culture and destroyed it. it had a dead cat bounce in america but the communists and socialists have ended the whole experiment here almost.

this was the culture that was going to get us off the planet. the prized middle class. the dream of freedom and opportunity. tolerance and progress.

its over. purely and solely because of ww1 and the short sided arrogance of western europe.

it created socialism and communism.
it created income tax here, standing armies, the military industrial complex, international finance
it created the bloated overcrowded third world.
it created the middle east and set islam on a rampage.
it emaciated europe.

basically everything wrong with the world today, and all of its lost opportunities, runs in a perfect, straight, black line directly to WW1.
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6:07p, 8/2/19
Everything and everyone looks way too clean in the trailer
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In reply to cbr • 6:36p, 8/2/19
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cbr said:
Ww1 is so fascinating to me. Growing up i was a huge ww2 buff. Movies, literature, everything sort of ignored ww1.

In hindsight now, ww1 was the most pivotal event in human history

Greatest tragedy ever.

Needs so much more exploration and understanding.
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In reply to FancyKetchup14 • 7:22p, 8/2/19
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FancyKetchup14 said:
I agree. The politics leading up to the outbreak of The War is so interesting, yet it seems so under told on the big screen.

I feel like somebody could make a screenplay out of The Guns of August. It practically reads like a Clancy novel.
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