Didn't see a thread on this. I am 2 episodes in, and it is very interesting.

I already saw Breaking Bad.

Have it in the que and was waiting to hear what his highness says b4 starting it

Saw the trailer last night and I'm definitely going to watch.

Hopefully it's not "all pharma bad" . The companies (and Drs) responsible we bad enough without smearing a whole industry.

I will watch it. Sounds interesting.

Very good series. Kind of a brief history of the drug epidemic in addition to a father's attempt to avenge the kids of his son.

amercer said:

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Hopefully it's not "all pharma bad" . The companies (and Drs) responsible we bad enough without smearing a whole industry.

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Then I think you'll find it interesting. You can click the link I posted above, but an early pill mill doctor in New Orleans is central to the story.

15 minutes in and boring as hell

That far exceeds my attention span. Need more flashy lights and interesting noises!

amercer said:

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Saw the trailer last night and I'm definitely going to watch.

Hopefully it's not "all pharma bad" . The companies (and Drs) responsible we bad enough without smearing a whole industry.

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It is definitely one sided against Purdue Pharma. They don't interview them to get their side at all. Maybe they tried and Purdue declined, I'm not sure.

They also only vaguely mention the FDA's culpability. If it wasn't for the FDA signing off on the notion that Oxy was not very addictive, then honest doctors would have been much more careful in prescribing it. I wonder if Purdue paid off somebody in the FDA. If so, then that would be the real scandal, IMO.

Many addicts got addicted through honest prescriptions with too high dosages. Surely healthy people don't seek out a certain doctor 2 states away and sit in the waiting room for 48 hours straight just to give Oxy it's first try. I imagine honest doctors believed Purdue and the FDA and were too liberal with their dosages.

Of course those addicts who were never prescribed any of it, but bought pills in the black market to get high deserve blame for their own problems. Addicts like that were given a free pass completely on this show.

That Dan guy was great. It reminds me of Jake Gyllenhaal's character in Zodiac. Why not deputize guys like that and let them work on the case? Clearly they are self motivated. You don't even have to pay them much (if at all). Just let them in on what you know so they can give you real help.

hph6203 said:

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That far exceeds my attention span. Need more flashy lights and interesting noises!

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I dont need explosions I just need something compelling and this started way too slow. Get the feeling this should be a 1 hour episode that is dragged out to death

The only thing i got out of this documentary is it reiterated my thought that Louisiana is the taint of America.

I agree about it being slow to start. I was hooked by the trailer though so the promise of what was to come kept me engaged until it picked up.

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I thought it was a great documentary. Really enjoyed it, even though it is sad and frustrating as hell. Lots of respect for the pharmacist for sure. He was relentless.

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It was incredible how long it took for anything to be done. I like how the DEA was like "we've already been watching her for a year." Did they not have enough evidence by then? And the doc didn't even get a harsh punishment in the end, although you could argue her car wreck partially made up for it from a karma standpoint. I was surprised she agreed to be interviewed and then acted as if she did nothing wrong.

The Dog Lord said:

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rcb said:

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I thought it was a great documentary. Really enjoyed it, even though it is sad and frustrating as hell. Lots of respect for the pharmacist for sure. He was relentless.

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It was incredible how long it took for anything to be done. I like how the DEA was like "we've already been watching her for a year." Did they not have enough evidence by then? And the doc didn't even get a harsh punishment in the end, although you could argue her car wreck partially made up for it from a karma standpoint. I was surprised she agreed to be interviewed and then acted as if she did nothing wrong.

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The problem is: convict her for breaking what law exactly? I'm not a doctor nor lawyer, but I do know that people grow tolerant for pain medication. A high dose that would make one person able to tolerate pain could kill somebody else taking it for the first time. So lawmakers can't write a law that limits dosages or anything like that. Instead, they recognize that doctors are typically honest experts, and so they give doctors flexibility to prescribe what is best for their patients. So Dr. Clagett could merely claim, "I'm the doctor and am using my judgement."

I imagine that if they were able to raid her office prior that they would have found evidence to convict, but they would need a warrant for that first. Having a long line of patients out the door and walking out with prescriptions for high doses is likely not enough to get a warrant. If they wired up an informant to go in there and get a prescription for nothing, it probably would not have stood in court without a warrant either.

It sounds like that one skipping kid being diagnosed enough to kill a herd of elephants was the obvious no-brainer case that let them raid the place. Yeah the pharmacist deserves praise for his diligence. But I think the DEA/FBI get a bit of a bad rap. Their hands were tied.

Just finished this last night. I thought it was fantastic and also really annoying that this has been allowed to happen for so long. I haven't been really following the opioid epidemic, I've just heard the buzz words on the internet and on the news. I had no idea that it was happening to this degree. Really insane and all doctors doing this deserve to be in jail.