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Story of a dig of a necropolis in Egypt and it is absolutely fascinating. If you have any interest whatsoever in Egyptology, I highly recommend it.
Some of their discoveries were literally the first of their kind.
Absolutely incredible stuff.
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Well, I do love Suzanna Hoffs...
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Grab some popcorn...why the ongoing cover-up? The Phenomenon: FF to 1:22:35 https://tubitv.com/movies/632920/the-phenomenon

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Grab some popcorn...why the ongoing cover-up? The Phenomenon: FF to 1:22:35 https://tubitv.com/movies/632920/the-phenomenon

An est. 68 MILLION Americans, including 19 MILLION Black Children, have been killed in the WOMB since 1973-act, pray and vote accordingly.

TAMU purpose statement: To develop leaders of character dedicated to serving the greater good. Team entrance song at KYLE FIELD is laced with profanity including THE Nword..
The greater good?
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so is this Egyptian mystical crap or real science?
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ja86 said:

so is this Egyptian mystical crap or real science?

The Netflix deal is legit archaeology. It's very interesting.

I have no clue about the stuff Spiderman posted but given his history it's probably a bunch of garbage about aliens and he's spamming the thread.
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ja86 said:

so is this Egyptian mystical crap or real science?


I don't believe Aliens built the pyramids. But I do believe there were ancient civilizations that we have lost historical record of, due to some kind of catastrophe.
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Thanks for the replies, I've added it to my que...

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Champ Bailey said:

ja86 said:

so is this Egyptian mystical crap or real science?


I don't believe Aliens built the pyramids. But I do believe there were ancient civilizations that we have lost historical record of, due to some kind of catastrophe.

If you've never listened to Joe Rogen's podcast interviews with Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson, I highly recommend doing do. There is now no doubt in my mind that there was a cataclysmic event around 12,000 years ago that wiped out the ancient civilizations of the time, a couple of which were likely more advanced than previously thought. I'm not talking industrial or electrical or anything like that, just that these civilizations were further ahead than we believed civilizations to be at the time. Then, what is assumed to be a meteor or asteroid hit, causing massive flooding, flooding that may very well have inspired the legends of Noah and equivalents found in nearly every major religion. But Hancock and Carlson both also believe that the pyramids are way older than the current "expert" opinions, and offer compelling reasons as to why (for the record, same as you, neither I nor do they believe that aliens built the pyramids). Regardless, it's kind of crazy to think that if whatever (potentially) happened 12,000 years ago *didn't* happen, we might be hundreds if not thousands of years more advanced than we are now. It basically caused a reset of humanity.
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Yelnick McWawa said:

ja86 said:

so is this Egyptian mystical crap or real science?

The Netflix deal is legit archaeology. It's very interesting.

I have no clue about the stuff Spiderman posted but given his history it's probably a bunch of garbage about aliens and he's spamming the thread.


Just like the politics board, it's spam/trolling. Just ignore it. Still a great thing to watch on Netflix
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Listen for yourself...


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CastleRock said:

TCTTS said:

Champ Bailey said:

ja86 said:

so is this Egyptian mystical crap or real science?


I don't believe Aliens built the pyramids. But I do believe there were ancient civilizations that we have lost historical record of, due to some kind of catastrophe.

If you've never listened to Joe Rogen's podcast interviews with Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson, I highly recommend doing do. There is now no doubt in my mind that there was a cataclysmic event around 12,000 years ago that wiped out the ancient civilizations of the time, a couple of which were likely more advanced than previously thought. I'm not talking industrial or electrical or anything like that, just that these civilizations were further ahead than we believed civilizations to be at the time. Then, what is assumed to be a meteor or asteroid hit, causing massive flooding, flooding that may very well have inspired the legends of Noah and equivalents found in nearly every major religion. But Hancock and Carlson both also believe that the pyramids are way older than the current "expert" opinions, and offer compelling reasons as to why (for the record, same as you, neither I nor do they believe that aliens built the pyramids). Regardless, it's kind of crazy to think that if whatever (potentially) happened 12,000 years ago *didn't* happen, we might be hundreds if not thousands of years more advanced than we are now. It basically caused a reset of humanity.
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Cmon, really?
Its an excellent episode with pretty compelling evidence of a major flooding event during antiquity. It isn't really in dispute that world sea levels rose 400 feet suddenly around 12,000 years ago. They just hypothesize an asteroid impact was the cause.
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Do they talk about Atlantis?
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From what I remember, a little bit, yeah.
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Lol, Graham Hancock is a quack.

Read around on him, he creates these theories with little to no evidence to seal books and make documentaries.

He is a joke in the scientific world.
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He speaks to your exact point quite often, is well aware of how the "scientific world" views him, and explains exactly why they bag on him like they do. He's as transparent as can be about it, in a healthy way, and I would recommend listening to the man himself before joining the chorus against him.
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I've watched several of his documentaries.
The "answer" or "proof" is always just arms length away, but he never has it.

He had one documentary on the holy grail, and he "traced" it to a church in Ethiopia. But the church was guarded and sacred so he couldn't get in to "prove" it. What bad luck.

His flood theory assumes every single piece of evidence was wiped out, even though we find spears and other artifacts from many centuries earlier. The oldest artifact in the US is over 16k years old if I remember right. And in the Middle East they go back 100k years with a pretty clear chain of anthropological development. But this one magical civilization to prove his theory is missing? What bad luck.

There is actually documentation from Egypt about when and why the pyramids were created, there is zero mystery there.

There are some interesting theories on how old the Sphinx is based on potential water erosion on it, but again, zero evidence of pre-Egyptian society exists and just about every Egyptologist considers it way out of the realm of real science.

But yeah, as a history major stuff like this both fascinates me and frustrates me. It's romantic to think of the possibilities, but zero evidence supports them. He makes money off of that grey area - his theories can't be proven true, but they can't truly be proven wrong either. I don't begrudge him for it, just don't respect him as anything other than a showman. He's a more benign version of a JFK assassination conspiracist..

/nerd rant.
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Just watched the first 45 minutes or so. They don't seem to be very careful with the process or findings. Is that normal, or are they just fast-forwarding through all the meticulous, painstaking, thorough excavation process I was expecting?
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It's not about rigorous science, it's about selling books and documentaries.

But I will let it go.
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Man this show is a snoozer

Instant sleep love it

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oragator said:

I've watched several of his documentaries.
The "answer" or "proof" is always just arms length away, but he never has it.

He had one documentary on the holy grail, and he "traced" it to a church in Ethiopia. But the church was guarded and sacred so he couldn't get in to "prove" it. What bad luck.

His flood theory assumes every single piece of evidence was wiped out, even though we find spears and other artifacts from many centuries earlier. The oldest artifact in the US is over 16k years old if I remember right. And in the Middle East they go back 100k years with a pretty clear chain of anthropological development. But this one magical civilization to prove his theory is missing? What bad luck.

There is actually documentation from Egypt about when and why the pyramids were created, there is zero mystery there.

There are some interesting theories on how old the Sphinx is based on potential water erosion on it, but again, zero evidence of pre-Egyptian society exists and just about every Egyptologist considers it way out of the realm of real science.

But yeah, as a history major stuff like this both fascinates me and frustrates me. It's romantic to think of the possibilities, but zero evidence supports them. He makes money off of that grey area - his theories can't be proven true, but they can't truly be proven wrong either. I don't begrudge him for it, just don't respect him as anything other than a showman. He's a more benign version of a JFK assassination conspiracist..

/nerd rant.

I hear you, and you raise some good points. I'm not saying he's 100% right, only that there's certainly some merit to his 12,000-year-old-global-catastrophe claims, and that there's more than "zero evidence" to support them. He also fully admits to not being a scientist, and fully admits that he doesn't have all the answers, which separates him from most conspiracists. He seems to have a pretty level head about it all, and speaks often to the criticisms of himself. More than anything, I just like that there's someone out there challenging the status quo and questioning academia, which can often be arrogant, stubborn, and dogmatic. If history has told us anything, it's that what is fact today might not be tomorrow, and that the truth likely lies somewhere in between Hancock and the current world view.
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You couldn't create a more perfect illustration of what has happened to the History Channel than this.
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Question for the people who think Hancock is FOS, because I'm open to suggestion either way. Have you seen his pictures of Egyptian artifacts that appear to have machined parts? Are those photos doctored, or what do you think they actually are?

Also, would be curious in what your thoughts are on his claims about how the stone urns they have were created. According to Hancock, nobody has been able to reproduce them without using some kind of machine, yet the common consensus front the Egyptologists seems to be is just that if we had someone doing that all day every day then we could recreate them by hand, but we just don't have artisans with enough practice.
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There is growing evidence that there was an impact +/- 12k years ago that ended the ice age.

Links to a couple of studies:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/10/191002110329.htm
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/10/191025110314.htm

Hancock may be a kook, but he is the proverbial blind hog finding an acorn on the Younger-Dryas impact event. The problem is that he uses stuff like this to advance his more radical theories.

I definitely believe there is much out there to be discovered & that humans were more advanced long ago than we previously realized. It's now generally accepted the Americas may have been settled as long ago as 30,000 years... pretty cool stuff.
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So I just started watching...literally only 53 seconds in. I just have to laugh at the dude coming down the ladder and saying "ok give me some room" while there is a camera and cameraman right there in the way.
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Apache said:

There is growing evidence that there was an impact +/- 12k years ago that ended the ice age.

Links to a couple of studies:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/10/191002110329.htm
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/10/191025110314.htm

Hancock may be a kook, but he is the proverbial blind hog finding an acorn on the Younger-Dryas impact event. The problem is that he uses stuff like this to advance his more radical theories.

I definitely believe there is much out there to be discovered & that humans were more advanced long ago than we previously realized. It's now generally accepted the Americas may have been settled as long ago as 30,000 years... pretty cool stuff.



Yeah, Getting on a tangent here, bu haven't they proven the Easter Island statues are 10's of thousands years old?
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Champ Bailey said:

Apache said:

There is growing evidence that there was an impact +/- 12k years ago that ended the ice age.

Links to a couple of studies:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/10/191002110329.htm
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/10/191025110314.htm

Hancock may be a kook, but he is the proverbial blind hog finding an acorn on the Younger-Dryas impact event. The problem is that he uses stuff like this to advance his more radical theories.

I definitely believe there is much out there to be discovered & that humans were more advanced long ago than we previously realized. It's now generally accepted the Americas may have been settled as long ago as 30,000 years... pretty cool stuff.



Yeah, Getting on a tangent here, bu haven't they proven the Easter Island statues are 10's of thousands years old?
Well, a quick wiki search says built between 1250 and 1500 a.d. I don't see any mention of alternate theories for time of construction
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redline248 said:

Champ Bailey said:

Apache said:

There is growing evidence that there was an impact +/- 12k years ago that ended the ice age.

Links to a couple of studies:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/10/191002110329.htm
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/10/191025110314.htm

Hancock may be a kook, but he is the proverbial blind hog finding an acorn on the Younger-Dryas impact event. The problem is that he uses stuff like this to advance his more radical theories.

I definitely believe there is much out there to be discovered & that humans were more advanced long ago than we previously realized. It's now generally accepted the Americas may have been settled as long ago as 30,000 years... pretty cool stuff.



Yeah, Getting on a tangent here, bu haven't they proven the Easter Island statues are 10's of thousands years old?
Well, a quick wiki search says built between 1250 and 1500 a.d. I don't see any mention of alternate theories for time of construction


Oh ***** I had heard they had uncovered bodies on them a few years ago, and for some reason I thought that dated them way older.
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So this thread has gone off the conspiracy deep end....

This netflix show is legit, right? Not conspiracy nonsense?
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aTmAg said:

So this thread has gone off the conspiracy deep end....

This netflix show is legit, right? Not conspiracy nonsense?
correct. They have some unique theories pertaining to the tomb in question, but nothing wack-a-doodle.

It was a decent documentary
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I regret starting this thread.
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aTmAg said:

So this thread has gone off the conspiracy deep end....

This netflix show is legit, right? Not conspiracy nonsense?


Legit.
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Enjoyed the documentary, and yes this was a dig sanctioned and funded by the egyptian government, looks like they are not finished.
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The correct question to ask, is if Rome hadn't fallen or we never had the "Dark Ages" we would be maybe 500 years farther along in technology and advancement. Not about a civilization 12,000 years ago that got wiped out.


oh and there is PLENTY of evidence for a major flood 12,000 years ago around the middle east. don't fool yourselves in thinking there wasn't. Question would be how advanced was that civilizations were and how widespread the flood really was.
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