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Candyman 2021

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Tibbers
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What a terrible flick written by hateful hands. The characters were not realistic, from top to bottom. Every character was a caricature or even parody. You had the struggling artist wearing dingy and undignified clothing, trying desperately to be relevant. You had the gay couple who were cartoonish and silly. You had the over the top racist white people. You had the over the top racist cops. I haven't seen cops that over the top racist since Tales from the Hood. This was a movie made that was filled with hate towards others. It's made for black people who hate white people. The original is not that way at all.

In the original Helen's best friend is black and race is never once brought up. The past story of what happened to Daniel Robitaille was so foreign and distant that it was a damn legend. Meaning that those type of things haven't happened for such a long time they are practically forgotten. Together they go to Cabrini Green to find the story. Together they attempt to learn about the origin and the affect on people there. They talk with great compassion to the single mom just trying to raise her kid. They show the true dichotomy between good elements and bad elements of people in the projects and the great benefits of education as the main other researcher is black. The young boy as well is the foil to all that surrounds him as he grows up. We see the story through their compassionate eyes as Helen falls prey to the legend.

In 2021's version, it's like a story written by a racist black man that sets that sets up scenes to make other racist black people desire the deaths of white folks. The "your kind" line by the art dealer, the doofy white children playing the candyman game, and the finale of the racist cops. Just an awful mess made by hateful hands. A shadow of the original as hate can never be better than love.
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Thanks for the review so I know to avoid.
Claude!
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Are the cops more or less racist than Bernie Mac in Don't Be a Menace to South Central While Drinking Your Juice In the Hood?
Head Ninja In Charge
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For what's it worth to the rest of you who don't want to read through the race relations analysis above, I also give it a thumbs down but for a completely different reason. It was a scary movie that wasn't scary.
PatAg
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"What a terrible flick written by hateful hands" is the most unintentionally hilarious review I have seen in a while.

This movie does look like it sucks, not sure why you bothered.
Tibbers
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A little melodrama never hurt anyone! What I should have said was, "I haven't seen hands that hateful since Devon Sawa's in Idle Hands."

And a better title for this review should be, "you can't make a nightmare when you're so woke."
Quincey P. Morris
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I hadn't even heard it was being made. Saw it for sale in the iTunes Store right before I saw this thread. I went back and looked at the reviews. It sits at three stars because it seems most are giving it one or two stars with a lot of complaints about the racial undertones and the rest are giving it five stars with a lot of complaints and jabs about the people complaining about the racial undertones. I'm not sure if I was making a horror movie I'd want that to be the characteristic influencing opinions on my movie.
Head Ninja In Charge
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You can make a fun/good/scary horror movie using racial undertones (Get Out) or social class criticism (His House) as a secondary theme. It can be done. To the OP's points, Candyman laid it on way too thick. I think the racial undertones were a little overblown in the original post, but if I heard one more line about how bad gentrification was or saw one more scene where the director was trying to force-fit that theme into the actual plot, I would've walked out. I bet if Jordan Peele directed it instead of just producing it, it would've been a lot better.

But again, the worst offense was that it was like zero percent creepy/scary.
Quincey P. Morris
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I agree. Just not sure I'd want that to be the central thing influencing whether or not the majority of people liked my movie.

To your second point though, the reviews not mentioning it were pretty bad as well for precisely that reason: not scary.
BCSWguru
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I made the mistake of seeing this movie. As soon as I saw Bron produced it, I knew it would be terrible. And it did not disappoint.
PatAg
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Tibbers said:

A little melodrama never hurt anyone! What I should have said was, "I haven't seen hands that hateful since Devon Sawa's in Idle Hands."

And a better title for this review should be, "you can't make a nightmare when you're so woke."
Now THATS a catchy tagline
PatAg
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Head Ninja In Charge said:

You can make a fun/good/scary horror movie using racial undertones (Get Out) or social class criticism (His House) as a secondary theme. It can be done. To the OP's points, Candyman laid it on way too thick. I think the racial undertones were a little overblown in the original post, but if I heard one more line about how bad gentrification was or saw one more scene where the director was trying to force-fit that theme into the actual plot, I would've walked out. I bet if Jordan Peele directed it instead of just producing it, it would've been a lot better.

But again, the worst offense was that it was like zero percent creepy/scary.
Let's just say, Get Out and Us were both solely written by Jordan Peele.

For Candyman he is listed as "screenplay" with two other people with basically no writing credits before this movie. I would guess that means he was not super involved, but I guess there is no way to know for sure.

It's also likely that this movie was always going to suck, and it shouldn't reflect poorly on anyone involved in it going forward. At least, until the next movie they make bombs, then we can see
GiveEmHellBill
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I thought the film was okay...until the end.

Then the script hits you with the subtlety of a 2x4 to the back of your head with its laughable and heavy-handed "ACAB" moral of the story.

Seriously, literally EVERY police officer shown in the movie (whether it be flashback or present) is a racist monster who will literally kill innocent black people just because....

I swear to God, the Candyman murders a dozen innocent people in this movie, but in the end THE POLICE are supposed to be the true monsters in society and him slaughtering the ones at the end is supposed to somehow be empowering or justified.

It is so clunky so just plain bad. This absolutely ruined a somewhat decent film.
TexAggie5432
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Yea it was pretty over the top with the caricatures. And not very scary. Decent soundtrack though. I actually liked the little cutout flashback stories in the movie and the credits. Kinda creepy.
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I agree...at the end of the movie I was very confused how Candyman was portrayed as a hero...thumbs way down.
Proposition Joe
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Finally got around to watching it last night.

Solid movie. Not particularly scary at all, but well made and entertaining.

Normally I'd agree with the "good grief this is so heavy handed" or "we get it white people suck" -- but that's the entire premise of the monster. That's essentially Candyman's origin story. So to go into this film thinking it wasn't going to revolve around that is being rather obtuse.

It's like saying in the early Friday films Jason went after camp counselors too much... That's his origin story, that's the whole point.

Loved how they made it a generational thing, and how they weaved Anne-Marie back into the story.

Thought the high rise zoom out death of the critic was masterfully done.

But as others mentioned, last 20 minutes it unraveled. In my opinion there was no real need to make it some kind of orchestrated thing by the laundry guy -- it worked fine completely without him. Seems like all his character really ushered forward was giving us the long explanation as to "why", as well as getting the hook involved... Just think they definitely could have found a different way to do both.

Wouldn't watch it again, and not as good as the original in my opinion (because, well, Tony Todd) -- but certainly a worthwhile sequel.

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