I'm sure many of you have probably heard of this before, but if you haven't, here's the gist:

Back in 1995, Leo DiCaprio, Tobey Maguire, and a bunch of their friends (ie the ***** Posse) made a small indie film (which was intended to be a short film) which their friends were directing.

For reasons which were never really clear, Leo and Tobey sued the filmmakers and blocked the movie from ever releasing in the US, Canada, and a bunch of other countries.

Well a couple weeks ago, I came across the full movie on Youtube and gave it a watch. I mostly enjoyed it, it's very much in the style of the other indies of the era like Clerks, Tarantino, Linklater, etc.

But then I found this documentary, and found it fascinating. Won't give too much away, but I'll just say it really disappoints me to find out how much of a complete ******* Tobey Maguire seems to be.

Of course, this is one side of the story, so it's hard to say this isn't a biased take. But it seems to be a mostly accurate look at the events that transpired.

Anyway, if anyone is interested in this kind of insider look at Hollywood, I highly recommend checking out the doc. (And the movie, too.)

Doc (3 parts):






Full movie:

My favorite part of the whole thing is the kraft macaroni and cheese with hot dogs that Tobey was cooking before going ape*****

Sure, but what he did to his supposed friends is pretty unforgivable. And then manipulating Leo to his side.

I was taking photos at the World Series of Poker back in the day for a website and every time I tried to take his photo, he'd stick his hand in front of his face.

This was in basically a public place with thousands of people and I had a press pass….what a putz

They sued to prevent its release because it was detrimental to their image at the time. For one, it is an absolutely terrible movie. Two, the performances by DiCaprio and Maguire were awful, and terribly cringe inducing. Three, the movie was crass, and not in the same vein as Clerks or Tarantino. It seemed to normalize sexual assault and misogyny without any sort of wink or comeuppance typical of movies where these things are present. It just has a sort of "boys will be boys" attitude about it.

I think it's understandable that a couple up and coming actors wanted to limit the bad publicity they would inevitably get from this movie.

The clip below gives you a good idea of how the rest of the movie is.

None of that seemed to bother Leo. He loved the movie when he saw it.

I think it may just come down to the one thing Tobey says which is mentioned in the doc, which is pretty ridiculous but also hilarious.

(The finger thing)

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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Oh and are we actually pretending Clerks wasn't crass?

"My girlfriend sucked 37 dicks." "In a row?"

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But that line is actually funny, unlike anything in this movie. And again, I am acknowledging Clerks is crass, what I am saying it is nowhere near the same. The line from Clerks you quoted was intentionally humorous, while most of the crass lines in Don's Plum are played straight. I'm not really alone in this opinion. It's a terrible movie.

Agreed, but my original Clerks comparison was more about the style and the black and white. That one is more of a straight comedy and this one is more of a plotless hangout movie, like Slacker.

Definitely can understand not being into that kind of thing though.

I have tried watching this movie three times since it was posted. I cant get past the 18 minute mark. Maguire's acting is terrible. I did enjoy the documentary though, did not know the details of this. Seems like Toby really screwed over his friends if you take what is presented as true.