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Brian Earl Spilner
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I'm sure this is bound to be a fun discussion.

Should be cancelled:
Lena Dunham

A self-admitted child molester who molested her little sister as a kid, and seems oddly proud of being "strong" enough to admit it publicly. There's at least 20 people off the top of my head who were torn to shreds in Hollywood for much less than this.

Shouldn't be cancelled:
Louis CK
Johnny Depp

Look, CK did some pretty gross ****, but there are far worse things to do than asking a woman to jerk off in front of her.

The fact that Denham is still getting work but CK seemingly never got out of the doghouse is weird to me.

As for Depp, well Amber Heard is ****ing crazy. Based on all the audio I've heard and details I've read, he just couldn't take her **** anymore. We all have a breaking point.
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I don't think anyone should be "cancelled".

The mob is too fickle and makes mistakes too easily.

Although I would like Lena Dunham to go away.
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I thought Dunham was canceled. Hadn't heard about that psycho in years
Brian Earl Spilner
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I mean I'd argue Weinstein was rightly ousted of Hollywood.
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

I mean I'd argue Weinstein was rightly ousted of Hollywood.
That isn't getting cancelled IMO. He would still be making movies without the criminal charges.

Brian Earl Spilner
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She was in Once Upon A Time In Hollywood and per her wiki is still getting plenty of work.
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

I'm sure this is bound to be a fun discussion.

Should be cancelled:
Lena Dunham

A self-admitted child molester who molested her little sister as a kid, and seems oddly proud of being "strong" enough to admit it publicly. There's at least 20 people off the top of my head who were torn to shreds in Hollywood for much less than this.

Shouldn't be cancelled:
Louis CK
Johnny Depp

Look, CK did some pretty gross ****, but there are far worse things to do than asking a woman to jerk off in front of her.

The fact that Denham is still getting work but CK seemingly never got out of the doghouse is weird to me.

As for Depp, well Amber Heard is ****ing crazy. Based on all the audio I've heard and details I've read, he just couldn't take her **** anymore. We all have a breaking point.
This idea of getting "cancelled" is overall largely ridiculous, or at least a better term should be used.

Just look at CK and the bolded as an example: dude just won a grammy and is currently on an international tour. That is "cancelled"?
LMCane
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she admitted to molesting her sister?!?

where is there a link to that admission
CheeseSndwch
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Roman Polanski
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Brian Earl Spilner said:



Should be cancelled:
Lena Dunham

A self-admitted child molester who molested her little sister as a kid, and seems oddly proud of being "strong" enough to admit it publicly. There's at least 20 people off the top of my head who were torn to shreds in Hollywood for much less than this.


she's annoying as hell, but i'm not sure i'd really categorize her as a child molester. From what I know, she was 7, her sister was a toddler, and it was one incident where she looked at her sister's privates, with no penetration. I'm not sure a 7 year old has any idea of what molestation is.
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CheeseSndwch said:

Roman Polanski
i thought he was canceled? wasn't there a video of all of hollywood's a-listers furiously beating their hands together in protest of his oscar win a few years ago?
Brian Earl Spilner
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But he's not nearly as visible as he used to be. He had a show on FX, was a frequent talk show guest, and generally just in the zeitgeist a lot more.

He's pretty much disappeared for now unless you go to one of his shows.

I think people are still kind of scared of associating with him.
Brian Earl Spilner
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Case in point: Appearing on Conan was his bread and butter, and he never came on in his final run of shows on TBS.

Conan specifically wanted to bring back all his favorite guests in the final month, and he was a huge and glaring omission.
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powerbelly said:

nm
Brian Earl Spilner
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She's had a few other things, like making a comment about how she wishes she'd had an abortion just to have the experience.

She's just an all-around ****ty person that I strongly dislike.
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

She's had a few other things, like making a comment about how she wishes she'd had an abortion just to have the experience.

She's just an all-around ****ty person that I strongly dislike.


She abandoned her rescue dog
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

She's had a few other things, like making a comment about how she wishes she'd had an abortion just to have the experience.

She's just an all-around ****ty person that I strongly dislike.

I agree with your assessment of her but I also agree with aggieoo's call
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

But he's not nearly as visible as he used to be. He had a show on FX, was a frequent talk show guest, and generally just in the zeitgeist a lot more.

He's pretty much disappeared for now unless you go to one of his shows.

I think people are still kind of scared of associating with him.
But that's basically my point - what do you even mean by being "cancelled"? Is someone cancelled just because they aren't doing everything they want to do?

Like, how is that description you give of CK that much different from Lena Dunham, who is still doing stuff but nowhere near as prevalent as she used to be? Are we talking degrees of cancellation here? (This isn't a defense of Lena Dunham or attack on CK in any way)

Sorry, this rant isn't really directed at you but the complaint of being "cancelled" and "cancel culture" is oftentimes BS.
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I think the greater crime than Louis is what happened to Aziz. Basically killed off the greatest show he's ever done. (I know about season 3, but I choose to ignore it.)
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I read this long artcle about Dunham. She said she had been raped in college and gave out a name and a very high level of circumstances. Well, I guess someone that really doesnt like her and did some detective work and found that it was absolutely impossible from the descriptions she gave.
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AggieOO said:

Brian Earl Spilner said:



Should be cancelled:
Lena Dunham

A self-admitted child molester who molested her little sister as a kid, and seems oddly proud of being "strong" enough to admit it publicly. There's at least 20 people off the top of my head who were torn to shreds in Hollywood for much less than this.


she's annoying as hell, but i'm not sure i'd really categorize her as a child molester. From what I know, she was 7, her sister was a toddler, and it was one incident where she looked at her sister's privates, with no penetration. I'm not sure a 7 year old has any idea of what molestation is.


I think she's a pretty scummy human being and I of course am not going to hold a 7 year old in the same judgment as a teenager or adult but if penetration is the rubicon, that's a pretty bad take. .

" One day, as I sat in our driveway in Long Island playing with blocks and buckets, my curiosity got the best of me," Lena Dunham wrote in her book. "Grace was sitting up, babbling and smiling, and I leaned down between her legs and carefully spread open her vagina. She didn't resist, and when I saw what was inside I shrieked"

I'm more concerned with her narcissism of thinking that was acceptable to put in print and it not be shocking or humiliated, TBH.

I'm not proud of all the things I did with little c-jags at the age of 7, but I'm not arrogant enough to think anybody else wants to know.
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Cancel culture is garbage. If an artist/company/entity which you take issue with produces something, don't consume or buy it. If enough people have reached a similar conclusion, their business/career will cease to exist. The desire to cancel, deplatform, or censor people belongs in a dystopian novel.
Tanya 93
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Kathy Griffin should be canceled
brew82
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What about Rosanne Barr? I can't say I'm a fan of hers, but I did enjoy the tv show "Rosanne" in its early years. Seems she got railroaded for going against the narrative.
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c-jags said:

AggieOO said:

Brian Earl Spilner said:



Should be cancelled:
Lena Dunham

A self-admitted child molester who molested her little sister as a kid, and seems oddly proud of being "strong" enough to admit it publicly. There's at least 20 people off the top of my head who were torn to shreds in Hollywood for much less than this.


she's annoying as hell, but i'm not sure i'd really categorize her as a child molester. From what I know, she was 7, her sister was a toddler, and it was one incident where she looked at her sister's privates, with no penetration. I'm not sure a 7 year old has any idea of what molestation is.


I think she's a pretty scummy human being and I of course am not going to hold a 7 year old in the same judgment as a teenager or adult but if penetration is the rubicon, that's a pretty bad take. .

" One day, as I sat in our driveway in Long Island playing with blocks and buckets, my curiosity got the best of me," Lena Dunham wrote in her book. "Grace was sitting up, babbling and smiling, and I leaned down between her legs and carefully spread open her vagina. She didn't resist, and when I saw what was inside I shrieked"

I'm more concerned with her narcissism of thinking that was acceptable to put in print and it not be shocking or humiliated, TBH.

I'm not proud of all the things I did with little c-jags at the age of 7, but I'm not arrogant enough to think anybody else wants to know.
i'm not saying penetration is the rubicon. Was just mentioning what i know about the situation. My point was, i don't think a 7 year old has much of a clue what they are doing. Seems like was more of a curiosity thing from what I can tell.

Do i think she's a ****ty person for a bunch of reasons? Yes. Do I think she's a child molester? No.
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I think canceled is a fair term, and something we can all understand and recognize. Louis ck lost work because of it. His jobs were......canceled. BES is correct in his assessment.

Being canceled to me is having the internet outrage mob gun for your livelihood or personal life.


Lena Dunham is a disgusting trash person whom is abhorrent. She should DIAF.
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Cuba Gooding , Jr. apparently plead guilty for groping 20+ women in 2018-19.
Four Seasons Landscaping
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You want Lena Dunham canceled for something she did when she was a pre-teen child but you're upset Louis CK is "canceled" for something he did well into adulthood but hasn't stopped him from winning awards?

Ummm, ok.
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Four Seasons Landscaping said:

You want Lena Dunham canceled for something she did when she was a pre-teen child but you're upset Louis CK is "canceled" for something he did well into adulthood but hasn't stopped him from winning awards?

Ummm, ok.

No, he wants her cancelled for that and the fact she's an insufferable ***** who's proud of what she did.
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brew82 said:

What about Rosanne Barr? I can't say I'm a fan of hers, but I did enjoy the tv show "Rosanne" in its early years. Seems she got railroaded for going against the narrative.
Last time I checked, calling a black person a monkey is a bit more than "going against the narrative" in 2018
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brew82
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Haha, thought she had said something differently. Looked it up and sure enough, yep that will definitely do it.
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cajunaggie08 said:

brew82 said:

What about Rosanne Barr? I can't say I'm a fan of hers, but I did enjoy the tv show "Rosanne" in its early years. Seems she got railroaded for going against the narrative.
Last time I checked, calling a black person a monkey is a bit more than "going against the narrative" in 2018
Not a defense of Roseanne Barr but Valerie is more white than she is black genetically speaking and you don't see too many black people that look like this so your comment is either disingenuous or ignorant. Either way it's 100% inaccurate.

She does bear a striking resemblance to Austin Powers though I must say.

Brian Earl Spilner
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Holy crap.

Ulrich
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johnnyblaze36 said:

cajunaggie08 said:

brew82 said:

What about Rosanne Barr? I can't say I'm a fan of hers, but I did enjoy the tv show "Rosanne" in its early years. Seems she got railroaded for going against the narrative.
Last time I checked, calling a black person a monkey is a bit more than "going against the narrative" in 2018
Not a defense of Roseanne Barr but Valerie is more white than she is black genetically speaking and you don't see too many black people that look like this so your comment is either disingenuous or ignorant. Either way it's 100% inaccurate.

She does bear a striking resemblance to Austin Powers though I must say.



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