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Covers his whole life from childhood to the present, relationship with his father, brother, mom, family live, how he screwed up his marriage to Maria, body buildings, movies, governorship, etc.

Watched it this weekend. Thought it was really well done.

https://www.netflix.com/title/81317673
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What a man and legacy. It is really an amazing story, and I love his explanation of how his bad childhood motivated him to become something and move away from it, whereas his brother had the more modern approach of woe is me and I'm a victim, and we see where it got him.

My counselor wife will totally be using his story for motivation with her kids!

It is really disappointing how his relationship ended.. it doesn't seem to fit the rest of his story of how appreciative he was with everything.
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62strat said:

What a man and legacy. It is really an amazing story, and I love his explanation of how his bad childhood motivated him to become something and move away from it, whereas his brother had the more modern approach of woe is me and I'm a victim, and we see where it got him.

My counselor wife will totally be using his story for motivation with her kids!
That's not really what he said at all.

He said his brother was just a different person than he was and responded differently to the stress and his childhood. His brother lived "a normal life" in Austria (job, wife, family, like 99% of the rest of us).

Arnold wanted more.
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then drunkenly ran into a light pole and killed himself.
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agracer said:

62strat said:

What a man and legacy. It is really an amazing story, and I love his explanation of how his bad childhood motivated him to become something and move away from it, whereas his brother had the more modern approach of woe is me and I'm a victim, and we see where it got him.

My counselor wife will totally be using his story for motivation with her kids!
That's not really what he said at all.

He said his brother was just a different person than he was and responded differently to the stress and his childhood. His brother lived "a normal life" in Austria (job, wife, family, like 99% of the rest of us).

Arnold wanted more.
uhhh.. Did we watch the same documentary? His brother was a substance abusing drunk who fatally DWI'd into a telephone pole at age 24. I didn't know that was 99% of Texags!

Arnold was clear he believes his brothers substance abuse was a result of their growing up.. But Arnold had the 'one foot forward' mentality and didn't let that bring him down.
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62strat said:

agracer said:

62strat said:

What a man and legacy. It is really an amazing story, and I love his explanation of how his bad childhood motivated him to become something and move away from it, whereas his brother had the more modern approach of woe is me and I'm a victim, and we see where it got him.

My counselor wife will totally be using his story for motivation with her kids!
That's not really what he said at all.

He said his brother was just a different person than he was and responded differently to the stress and his childhood. His brother lived "a normal life" in Austria (job, wife, family, like 99% of the rest of us).

Arnold wanted more.
uhhh.. Did we watch the same documentary? His brother was a substance abusing drunk who fatally DWI'd into a telephone pole at age 24. I didn't know that was 99% of Texags!

Arnold was clear he believes his brothers substance abuse was a result of their growing up.. But Arnold had the 'one foot forward' mentality and didn't let that bring him down.

I specifically bolded the part I disagreed with.

Yes he was a drunk, but went about life like most people. Job, wife, kids, etc. I didn't mean being drunk applied to 99% of texags.
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62strat said:



It is really disappointing how his relationship ended.. it doesn't seem to fit the rest of his story of how appreciative he was with everything.


He is an incredible success story. Amazing.

His marriage ending the way it did does fit the rest of his story, though. He is a raging narcissist and egomaniac. He cheated on every relationship he ever had.
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agracer said:

62strat said:

agracer said:

62strat said:

What a man and legacy. It is really an amazing story, and I love his explanation of how his bad childhood motivated him to become something and move away from it, whereas his brother had the more modern approach of woe is me and I'm a victim, and we see where it got him.

My counselor wife will totally be using his story for motivation with her kids!
That's not really what he said at all.

He said his brother was just a different person than he was and responded differently to the stress and his childhood. His brother lived "a normal life" in Austria (job, wife, family, like 99% of the rest of us).

Arnold wanted more.
uhhh.. Did we watch the same documentary? His brother was a substance abusing drunk who fatally DWI'd into a telephone pole at age 24. I didn't know that was 99% of Texags!

Arnold was clear he believes his brothers substance abuse was a result of their growing up.. But Arnold had the 'one foot forward' mentality and didn't let that bring him down.

I specifically bolded the part I disagreed with.

Yes he was a drunk, but went about life like most people. Job, wife, kids, etc. I didn't mean being drunk applied to 99% of texags.
Are you saying the brother himself didn't blame his childhood for his issues? Because Arnold seemed to think he did. I def. don't agree with your statement 'he lived a normal life with wife/kids like 99% of us.'
His substance abuse killed him at age 24, that is far from normal.
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Amazing life story, represented very well here on screen.

I'm glad he didn't shy away from discussing the affair and the resulting son, his regret about it, and that he now says his earlier groping/harassment behavior and excuses were "bull****". I had wondered how those would be addressed, if at all. Depending on who's behind a documentary, sometimes these things can get whitewashed, if not ignored altogether.

Also, my recollection lines up with 62strat about the brother. There were multiple times in the doc, both regarding the brother and in general, where Arnold discussed his disdain for the "woe is me" or "how do I *feel* about this" mentality, vs the "move forward" mentality. If rewatched, maybe I'd catch something different, but that's how I remember it.
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62strat said:

agracer said:

62strat said:

agracer said:

62strat said:

What a man and legacy. It is really an amazing story, and I love his explanation of how his bad childhood motivated him to become something and move away from it, whereas his brother had the more modern approach of woe is me and I'm a victim, and we see where it got him.

My counselor wife will totally be using his story for motivation with her kids!
That's not really what he said at all.

He said his brother was just a different person than he was and responded differently to the stress and his childhood. His brother lived "a normal life" in Austria (job, wife, family, like 99% of the rest of us).

Arnold wanted more.
uhhh.. Did we watch the same documentary? His brother was a substance abusing drunk who fatally DWI'd into a telephone pole at age 24. I didn't know that was 99% of Texags!

Arnold was clear he believes his brothers substance abuse was a result of their growing up.. But Arnold had the 'one foot forward' mentality and didn't let that bring him down.

I specifically bolded the part I disagreed with.

Yes he was a drunk, but went about life like most people. Job, wife, kids, etc. I didn't mean being drunk applied to 99% of texags.
Are you saying the brother himself didn't blame his childhood for his issues? Because Arnold seemed to think he did. I def. don't agree with your statement 'he lived a normal life with wife/kids like 99% of us.'
His substance abuse killed him at age 24, that is far from normal.
Sorry, I did not explain myself very well.

I do no think his death and life were a "more modern approach of woe is me and I'm a victim".

People have been drowning their sorrows since forever. I disagree that is a modern approach.

His death was obviously not like 99% of us. I simply meant he went about life like most of us, just work, family, boring life. He just used alcohol to deal with his demons. Lots of people do.

EDIT: Also didn't mean to derail discussion about a really good docu-series about Arnold.

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Watching this now and I can see why Arnold achieved so much success. The guy is built like Jordan and Kobe: super competitive, chip on his shoulder, visualizing success, always setting new goals, always looking forward, always looking to improve, never satisfied. I loved his quote that he said Rose or Eunice Kennedy told him: always move, move, move, and go forward.

He said something that reminded me of Jordan's HOF speech, whenever Arnold proved he could be a box office leading man, he basically gave a middle finger and walked away to all of the critics that said he could never do it. He is just built different.

Side note: I looked up his family after watching this and had no idea his daughter is married to Chris Pratt. Their kids hit the genetic lottery lol.
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In regards to his childhood I think it was very telling when he told the story of he and his brother collecting flowers for Mother's Day, and his older son, being older, bigger, and faster than he was, would always collect the most. How did his father respond? He praised the older brother and told Arnold "maybe you'll do better next year."

I also bet that his older brother received more beatings than Arnold as he was older and that's usually how it goes with an abusive, drunk father.

Anyway, it seems that dynamic shaped both brothers, one to become ultra competitive and the other to have a broken life.
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Did Arnold explain what he could have possibly been thinking when he knocked-up the Geico Caveman and thus blew up his family?!
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Buck Turgidson said:

Did Arnold explain what he could have possibly been thinking when he knocked-up the Geico Caveman and thus blew up his family?!
he said it was his biggest failure. A movie failure sucked but was out of his control, but that failure was his own.
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Just finished this. What a fantastic show. Arnold was a force. I loved his final thought that some people call him a self-made man. But that is bull**** because he was lifted up by so many people along his way.

Honestly every young person should watch this show just to see what internal drive and focus looks like.

And also to see what a double-edged sword internal drive and ambition can turn into for some people. I know lots and lots of examples of very successful people wo destroyed their first marriage and family in the name of getting ahead.
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Thought this was going to be about Different Strokes.
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62strat said:

Buck Turgidson said:

Did Arnold explain what he could have possibly been thinking when he knocked-up the Geico Caveman and thus blew up his family?!
he said it was his biggest failure. A movie failure sucked but was out of his control, but that failure was his own.
His daughter Katherine actually wrote a book about forgiveness and includes her own family story. As mentioned above, she's married to Chris Pratt...and they're very open about their faith (especially by Kennedy family and Hollywood standards). It's nice to see something good come out of his failures.
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Really enjoyed the series. That guy busted his ass for many years to make it. Mad respect
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boozer93 said:

Thought this was going to be about Different Strokes.
What chu talmbout boozer?
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