BREAKING: Sony Pictures Entertainment has acquired popular dine-in movie theater chain Alamo Drafthouse Cinema. https://t.co/iJhyxSmNsI

— The Associated Press (@AP) June 12, 2024

Wonder how long until it becomes lame?

Journalists looking to write something up on the Sony acquisition of the Drafthouse would be wise to read Tom Rothman's recent interview on the state of the industry. He has some pretty strong opinions on the need to decrease ticket prices to get customers back in seats.

— C. Robert Cargill (@Massawyrm) June 12, 2024

It isn't about ticket prices.

Cliff.Booth said:

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It isn't about ticket prices.

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Maybe movies that don't suck?

I'm not "going on" about anything. I wrote one sentence, bud.

High ticket prices is one of a slew of reasons why cinemas are struggling.

His tweet was solely focused on high ticket prices being what was keeping customers away. I simply said it isn't really that. Simple as. No need to try and complicate my reply.

That's all his statement in the tweet was about. Go back in time to three weeks ago and make tickets to Furiosa at Alamo a few dollars less and it isn't filling up. It isn't the prices.

I appreciate the tweet, in hopes that Hollywood does actually lower prices (although, I highly doubt that). Ticket prices aren't the only thing keeping people from theaters, but I do think it's the biggest. Back when I could see a matinee for less than $5, I went and saw a lot of crap. A lot of movies, I had no interest in, but I was bored and it was a pretty cheap way to kill a couple of hours.

It isn't a desperate attempt to do anything, it's literally a simple response to the tweet. It isn't about the ticket prices.

Does anybody know why the law was changed back in 2020ish to allow studios to own theater chains?

Surely it seems like a conflict of interest of sorts. Sure, Sony wouldn't stop showing non-Sony content altogether. But I sure can bet they will now give Sony preferential treatment - giving their films more time in the better screens, better times, etc.

AustinAg2K said:

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I appreciate the tweet, in hopes that Hollywood does actually lower prices (although, I highly doubt that). Ticket prices aren't the only thing keeping people from theaters, but I do think it's the biggest. Back when I could see a matinee for less than $5, I went and saw a lot of crap. A lot of movies, I had no interest in, but I was bored and it was a pretty cheap way to kill a couple of hours.

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The Cinemark closest to my house has tickets tomorrow during the day for $5.25. I just checked. Furiosa.

I think there are some people that have decided movie tickets are too expensive, but haven't actually looked at ticket prices that closely.

TCTTS said:

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And yet the poster above you is literally claiming the opposite, saying that for him - or at least what he's observing - that it IS about ticket prices (i.e. the "biggest" reason).

Can you not read?

Do you think I'm lying?

This is such a weird conversation.

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Whoa? One guy says it's ticket prices? That's insane. I never imagined on a message board running into several different opinions!

Cliff.Booth said:

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High ticket prices is one of a slew of reasons why cinemas are struggling.

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I said this a while ago. It's the one with 6 stars. Ticket prices are A factor, considering inflation is insane and people are spending too much on basic necessities, but your average Joe and Jane don't have more than one or two movies per year they're super pumped about anymore.

This one has been insane? I happen upon you arguing with people literally every time I browse this place haha. How is me saying in response to that tweet that it ISN'T so much about the ticket prices. That's a pretty normal take.

Since AI is baked into most everything and poses an existential thread to the film industry, I thought it would be very relevant to this thread to see what AI has to say on why theater attendance is declining.

Me: Why is movie attendance declining?

OpenAI:

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Movie theater attendance has been declining for several reasons:
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Streaming Services: The rise of streaming platforms like Netflix, Disney+, and Amazon Prime provides convenient and affordable access to a vast library of movies and TV shows, making it less appealing for people to visit theaters.

COVID-19 Pandemic: The pandemic led to prolonged theater closures and social distancing measures, which changed consumer habits and increased reliance on home entertainment.

High Costs: The cost of movie tickets, concessions, and other associated expenses can be prohibitive for many people, especially compared to the cost of streaming services.

Quality of Home Entertainment: Advances in home entertainment technology, such as large-screen TVs and high-quality sound systems, make watching movies at home more enjoyable.

Content Availability: Some movies are released directly on streaming platforms or have shorter theatrical windows, reducing the incentive to watch them in theaters.

Changing Consumer Preferences: Younger audiences, in particular, may prefer other forms of entertainment such as video games, social media, or online content.

Economic Factors: Economic downturns and inflation can reduce discretionary spending, impacting leisure activities like going to the movies.

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Me: What about the subvertive nature of the film industry on wholesome traditional family values?

OpenAI:

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The perception that the film industry is subverting traditional family values is a significant point of discussion among certain groups. Here are some key considerations and perspectives on this issue:

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Changing Social Norms: Society has evolved, and what is considered "wholesome" or "traditional" family values has changed over time. The film industry often reflects these evolving norms, which can sometimes be perceived as subversive by those who hold more traditional views.

Representation of Diverse Experiences: The inclusion of diverse characters and storylines, including those involving LGBTQ+ individuals, single-parent families, or other non-traditional family structures, is seen by many as an effort to represent the real world more accurately. This can be perceived as a positive step towards inclusivity, though it can also be seen as challenging traditional norms.

Market Demand: Filmmakers and studios often respond to changing audience preferences and societal trends. The inclusion of diverse characters and themes can be a response to growing demand for representation from various demographic groups.

Creative Expression: The film industry values creative freedom and often explores a wide range of themes and stories. This can include challenging traditional norms and values as a form of artistic expression and social commentary.

Parental Control and Choice: Parents have the ability to choose what content their children are exposed to. Ratings systems and parental guides can help parents make informed decisions about what is appropriate for their families.

Cultural Influence: Media has a powerful influence on culture and social norms. Some argue that the film industry's portrayal of diverse lifestyles and values can help promote acceptance and understanding, while others believe it can undermine traditional values.

Economic Factors: Films that challenge traditional values can sometimes face backlash and boycotts, which can impact their financial success. However, there is also a market for films that embrace diversity and inclusivity, which can be financially rewarding for studios.

Balance of Content: While some films and TV shows may include themes that challenge traditional values, there are also many that uphold and celebrate these values. The industry produces a wide range of content to cater to diverse audiences.

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The debate about the influence of the film industry on traditional family values reflects broader societal conversations about change, acceptance, and the role of media in shaping cultural norms. It underscores the ongoing tension between maintaining traditional values and embracing a more diverse and inclusive representation of society.

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Me: Would you say that Hollywood's subvertiveness also contributes to a decline in movie attendance?

OpenAI:

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The subversiveness of Hollywood, particularly in terms of challenging traditional family values, can be one of several factors contributing to a decline in movie attendance, though it is not the sole or primary reason. Here's a nuanced look at how this might play a role:

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Audience Alienation: Some moviegoers may feel alienated by content that they perceive as contrary to their values and beliefs. When films include themes or portrayals that challenge traditional norms, these viewers may choose to avoid theaters in favor of content that aligns more closely with their values.

Parental Concerns: Parents concerned about exposing their children to themes they deem inappropriate might be more selective about the movies they allow their children to watch. This can reduce family attendance at theaters.

Polarization: Content that is seen as politically or socially polarizing can lead to divided opinions. Some audiences might avoid movies that they perceive as pushing a particular agenda, while others might support such films for the same reason.

Diverse Entertainment Options: With the rise of streaming services and other forms of home entertainment, audiences have more choices than ever. If some viewers feel disenchanted with Hollywood's content, they can easily turn to alternatives that better fit their preferences.

Changing Demographics: The demographic composition of movie audiences is shifting. Younger generations tend to be more accepting of diverse representations and themes. However, if Hollywood content does not resonate with older or more conservative audiences, it could contribute to their reduced attendance.

Economic Considerations: High ticket prices and the cost of concessions can deter moviegoers, especially if they feel the content does not justify the expense. This is a practical consideration that compounds the impact of content-related dissatisfaction.

[/ol]However, it is important to recognize that the decline in movie attendance is multifaceted and influenced by numerous factors:

• Streaming Services: The convenience, affordability, and vast content libraries of streaming platforms like Netflix, Disney+, and Amazon Prime are major competitors to traditional movie theaters.
• COVID-19 Pandemic: The pandemic significantly disrupted movie-going habits, with many people growing accustomed to watching new releases at home.
• Home Entertainment Technology: Advances in home entertainment systems make the at-home viewing experience more appealing.
• Content Quality and Variety: Perceptions of declining quality or a lack of appealing content in theaters can drive audiences away.

In summary, while Hollywood's approach to content and representation can influence movie attendance, it is part of a broader array of factors that contribute to the overall decline.

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The AI as diplomatically as possible -- with lots of spin, too -- admitted people are fed up with content not aligning with their values and belief systems and the attendance issue is caused by this (among other things hahaha).

Giving me a cheaper seat price to watch unwholesome propaganda moves the needle not at all.

I've argued with you a number of times, but I've also agreed with you on probably just as many instances. This is just a weird case of you saying "this dude tweeted A" and me saying "Nah, it's B", then you trying to gaslight me for 15 posts that that was anything other than a non-personal difference of opinion. As usual, you'd be better off not taking disagreements so personally.

How do you manage to paint yourself as a victim in every ****ing thread? Dude said one sentence in response to a tweet from a completely separate person and you took it personally.

Holy ****, where's the tylenol.