. . . than the burn ban.

One important factor is a long-standing dispute between the landowner where Bonfire will be held and a neighbor.

I'll let others who are more familiar with the particulars pick up the discussion from here.

For now, I'm heading over to the Brazos County Courthouse.

There is definately some underhanded politics I think are going on aside from this.

That has nothing to do about it. It's about breaking a law that is in effect. If they can burn Bonfire, why can't we burn our trash?

ldyaggie = the person b*tch*ng in the paper and the neighbor

ldy, then why were we told it was okay to go ahead?

Stop blaming Bonfire.

Because you didn't spend weeks pouring hard work and effort into building your trash pile.

Because burning your trash is not a time honored tradition.

Because there will not be professional supervision of your trash fire.

Because the fire department will not be standing ready to act should something go wrong with your trash fire.

I could go on...

It's not about breaking the law, it's about the attorney recognizing the mistake of the judge who granted permission. I don't know if there's more to the story but I'm not convinced that the timing is suspect either. If the eagle article doesn't run this morning then the whole thing probably slips by and gets addressed as an afterthought. SB can still get an exception that will allow it to burn LEGALY and ldy can sit at home and piss his pampers.

NSG:

You were told to go ahead by the County Judge who didn't know what he was talking about.

Real Deal-

Do you really think the county attorney did not notice this issue until this morning when reading about it in the BCS Eagle, and then went and got an injunction within a couple of hours?

The commissioner's court and county judge made the error in telling the Bonfire group they would be okay without looking into the law. The county attorney, who represents the commissiner's court, then goes and files the injunction the day before bonfire is to burn, on the last business day before it burns.

His timing is very suspect.

I am not against Bonfire. I just hate that the students have taken it in their own hands and gone off-campus with it because there is still a risk for someone else to be killed. That is why it was temporarily banned.

I am also not the person in the paper causing the problems for the race track. I am one of the people affected by the noise, but I was not one of them filing a complaint.

I don't know why the judge told the group that they could burn Bonfire when a ban was in effect. He should have known the law and that there was not an exception for "ceremonial burning". I put the blame in his lap for allowing it to get this far, knowing it was against state law.

I also don't want students to go out and burn it if the injunction is not lifted because that is intentionally breaking the law and hurts the integrity of the Aggies. We're opening ourselves up to be compared to Tech students.

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I think knowingly allowing an incorrect decision of his County Court to stand for more than a week so he could strategicly file the injunction at the last minute is kind of rediculous. I would imagine his coworkers don't apprecite being made to look like morons, especially in such dramatic fashion. I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt.

ldy - you have not taken the time to evaluate our organization, though. Not thoroughly. Your first statement's a blind judgement.

There's a chance you could die while driving your car, but you drive anyway, right? The automakers have taken action to reduce those chances, but we still do it because it's necessary.

We've taken action and have formed an organization with stringent safety policies and is overseen by a board and a licensed engineer. We took action because Bonfire IS necessary to Aggies. It's the reason why Aggies are the way we are.

Yes the County Judge screwed up.

The fact of the matter is, although possibly naive, SB went on what the Judge with the authority over (and presumably the most intimate knowledege of) the situation said.

The county attorney had to have known that Bonfire planned to be burned and likely knew the why SB thought it had the go ahead. We're talking about all county employees here. It's not like the Bryan DA filed the suit. SB got permission from a county official, and then another county official filed the injunction.

Therefore, his timing is clearly suspect. The injunction was filed with the intent to stop Bonfire, not to get the County Commissioners to jump through the technical legal hoops to allow it.

Let's not go off the deep end about being compared with Tech until we know what's going to happen. It sounds like the county was on board in the first place, so hopefully they still are.

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Real Deal,

The only way I would agree with your position is if the County Commissioners had to be under a court order in order to call an emergency meeting. I'm sure that for reasons we can't even begin to think about, it's important that the exception to the ban be legally sound.

However, if the CC's didn't have to be under court order to meet, he could accomplish the same thing simply by having them call an emergency meeting. If that's the case, then clearly his intentions are hardly above reproach.

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I am not against Bonfire. I just hate that the students have taken it in their own hands and gone off-campus with it because there is still a risk for someone else to be killed. That is why it was temporarily banned.

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Right now Bonfire is currently banned not because of saftey issues but because of the fact that the case is still pending in court. It is SOP to wait to move on somthing until the legal issues get resolved.

I agree with the county official's timing being VERY suspect. It's a bit like knowing Thanksgiving is coming all year long and then declaring turkeys an endangered species the night before.

What makes me sick is not for people like me. I've seen a Bonfire burn.

I'm sick for the Fish and the new guys who've never seen their hard work culminate.

I'm also sick for the people that had planned on coming in from out of town.

also, the noise from the track, was not found to be over 85 dB at nearby homes in a study that was done by an independent firm. It's not even to the level of nuisance.

Just this morning, the owner of HRH explained to me the conflicting things filed against him.

He was told not to do over 85, so kept it under 80 (from what he said - not to contradict you, your findings may be right). And now he's being shut down.

I don't know the entire story there, though.

I know the findings are right, I don't know what he was told after the findings...80dB or whatever, but I know none of the readings were over 85 dB at homes involved in the study.

Yeah, I wasn't contradicting you. You sound like you know what you're talking about. My findings are hearsay

Classic. Guy buys a house next to a racetrack and then complains.

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It's a bit like knowing Thanksgiving is coming all year long and then declaring turkeys an endangered species the night before.

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Funny, my grandpa kills turkeys with an axe too.

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Classic. Guy buys a house next to a racetrack and then complains.

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The race track was built after the houses were already there. The noise was so bad for some they had to leave their homes on Saturday nights to get sleep.

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I am not against Bonfire. I just hate that the students have taken it in their own hands and gone off-campus with it because there is still a risk for someone else to be killed. That is why it was temporarily banned.

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Uhh.... how does stopping it from being burned increase the safety of the construction?!

Secondly, you know nothing of the safety policies and procedures, so you are not in a position to assess any risk to life that might exist.

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The noise was so bad for some they had to leave their homes on Saturday nights to get sleep.

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How late were the races running?

I guess they should have checked P&Z before purchase. Probably too busy burning their trash.