Seamaster and Redstone need to be made mods of both Politics, and the R&P board

And let's just say that I soured on 16 after expressing some very well informed opinions about a very powerful nation-state in the Levant

Redstone said:

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And let's just say that I soured on 16 after expressing some very well informed opinions about a very powerful nation-state in the Levant

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I appreciated your special understanding of the situation, especially being of Semitic origin yourself

We must always call out nonsense language games. What's the definition? Don't name call, don't thought stop…

Define. Defend.

Proud to be Semitic, anti-Jewish, anti-Israel the nation-state

Let all of us people Israel, followers of the Logos John 1, proclaim the Way, Truth, Life - especially to Jews, whose turn and re-definition en mass after Titus decimated Jerusalem (exactly like Jesus predicted, didn't He) has been so tragic in so many ways.

one MEEN Ag said:

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Redstone said:

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And let's just say that I soured on 16 after expressing some very well informed opinions about a very powerful nation-state in the Levant

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There is a cabal of Lebanese mods around here. This is known.

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You must not name big-Phoenicia

This is addressed in detail in my thread link, but in summary:

"Jewish" best definition (not saying the only, please look at link) is:
The Nazarene is not the Messiah. An explicit rejection of Christ, by definition. As the primary defining characteristic of a large, diverse umbrella term - Jewish.

Therefore, according to the Apostolic (Catholic / Orthodox) understanding (despite the ridiculous weaponized ambiguity of Vatican II) -

The definition is inherently Satanic. And we must proclaim the true Sacrifice, Temple, priesthood.

How do Jewish groups view "Messianic Jews" ?

As Christians, which they are.

Redstone said:

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This is addressed in detail in my thread link, but in summary:

"Jewish" best definition (not saying the only, please look at link) is:
The Nazarene is not the Messiah. An explicit rejection of Christ, by definition. As the primary defining characteristic of a large, diverse umbrella term - Jewish.

Therefore, according to the Apostolic (Catholic / Orthodox) understanding (despite the ridiculous weaponized ambiguity of Vatican II) -

The definition is inherently Satanic. And we must proclaim the true Sacrifice, Temple, priesthood.

How do Jewish groups view "Messianic Jews" ?

As Christians, which they are.

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That's such an important distinction to make, as the Jews like the Apostles and others are part of the original and new Israel; they were the branches that were not cut-off and didn't need to be grafted on like we gentiles.

The Jews that were cut-off were done so because of their rejection of the Messiah who had come, specifically for their salvation, and was executed. Their salvation is still assured, provided they be grafted back on to the tree.

Correct.

The entire point is Christ, Logos, God Incarnate.

He's all over the Old Testament, and appeared for us in our times as the Nazarene.

The people Israel worship the Triune God, who appears in many forms, times, places (for many Muslims today, it's dreams, check it out).

Proverbs and Psalms and 1 Enoch (definitely read by Apostles, quoted in Jude) and much else are Trinitarian.

Proclaim the Good News