Rex Racer said:
Gonna have to get AI to summarize.
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Summary of Dennis Prager's Letter to Candace Owens (Sept. 3, 2024)
Dennis Prager writes a long, detailed, and deeply critical private letter to Candace Owens explaining why he believes her recent commentary has crossed from criticism of Israel into the promotion of antisemitic ideas. While emphasizing that he does not judge her motives, he argues that her words and actions are causing serious harm to Jews, Israel, and Jewish-Christian relations.
Core themes and arguments:Conclusion and tone:
- Allegations of antisemitism: Prager says Owens has repeatedly echoed classic antisemitic tropes, especially medieval "blood libel" claims that Jews murder Christians or engage in ritual abuse, by attributing such acts to "Frankists" allegedly masquerading as Jews. He argues this distinction is meaningless in effect and revives dangerous libels that historically led to Jewish massacres.
- Frankists and Israel: He rejects Owens's claim that Israel was founded by Frankists or as a haven for pedophiles, calling it historically baseless and defamatory. He stresses that Zionism arose from centuries of Jewish prayer, persecution, and the need for a homeland, not secret cults.
- Leo Frank case: A major section challenges Owens's insistence that Leo Frank murdered Mary ****an and was a Jewish pedophile. Prager cites overwhelming historical consensus, court actions, historians, witnesses, and later investigations concluding Frank was likely innocent and lynched due to antisemitism. He accuses Owens of libel for repeating guilt and rape claims unsupported by evidence.
- ADL and pedophilia claims: Prager rejects Owens's assertion that the ADL was founded to protect pedophiles, explaining it arose in response to Frank's lynching and widespread antisemitism. He calls her claim morally indefensible without evidence.
- Israel as an ally: He strongly disputes Owens's claim that Israel is not a U.S. ally, citing intelligence sharing, military technology (e.g., Iron Dome), voting alignment with the U.S. at the UN, and technological innovation.
- Criticism vs. demonization: Prager concedes Israel has committed serious wrongs (e.g., USS Liberty, failure to extradite criminals, alleged prisoner abuse) but argues Owens applies a uniquely harsh, conspiratorial standard to Israel, similar to how the far left portrays America.
- "Zionist media" and U.S. occupation claims: He argues terms like "Zionist media" and claims that Israel "occupies" or controls America are false, conspiratorial, and historically associated with antisemitism.
- Anti-Zionism: Prager reiterates his long-held view that anti-Zionism is antisemitism because it uniquely denies the Jewish people a right to a nation while accepting all others. He contrasts Israel with Pakistan to argue the double standard.
- Historical inaccuracies: He corrects Owens on claims such as Stalin being Jewish and criticizes her for minimizing or mocking Nazi medical experiments and conflating Allied and Soviet postwar atrocities.
- Impact and responsibility: Prager emphasizes that regardless of intent, Owens's rhetoric attracts and energizes openly antisemitic audiences. He contrasts this with his own decades-long effort to defend Christians and promote Jewish-Christian solidarity.
Prager expresses sadness and shock, saying Owens--once admired by Jews and Christians alike--is now doing "great harm" to Jews and Israel. He urges her to reconsider, correct errors publicly, condemn antisemitism among her followers, and apply consistent moral standards. He offers dialogue and even proposes accompanying her on a fact-finding trip to Israel. The letter closes as a plea from a former ally, stressing that actions matter more than motives.
BonfireNerd04 said:Rex Racer said:
Gonna have to get AI to summarize.
From ChatGPT:Quote:
Summary of Dennis Prager's Letter to Candace Owens (Sept. 3, 2024)
Dennis Prager writes a long, detailed, and deeply critical private letter to Candace Owens explaining why he believes her recent commentary has crossed from criticism of Israel into the promotion of antisemitic ideas. While emphasizing that he does not judge her motives, he argues that her words and actions are causing serious harm to Jews, Israel, and Jewish-Christian relations.
Core themes and arguments:Conclusion and tone:
- Allegations of antisemitism: Prager says Owens has repeatedly echoed classic antisemitic tropes, especially medieval "blood libel" claims that Jews murder Christians or engage in ritual abuse, by attributing such acts to "Frankists" allegedly masquerading as Jews. He argues this distinction is meaningless in effect and revives dangerous libels that historically led to Jewish massacres.
- Frankists and Israel: He rejects Owens's claim that Israel was founded by Frankists or as a haven for pedophiles, calling it historically baseless and defamatory. He stresses that Zionism arose from centuries of Jewish prayer, persecution, and the need for a homeland, not secret cults.
- Leo Frank case: A major section challenges Owens's insistence that Leo Frank murdered Mary ****an and was a Jewish pedophile. Prager cites overwhelming historical consensus, court actions, historians, witnesses, and later investigations concluding Frank was likely innocent and lynched due to antisemitism. He accuses Owens of libel for repeating guilt and rape claims unsupported by evidence.
- ADL and pedophilia claims: Prager rejects Owens's assertion that the ADL was founded to protect pedophiles, explaining it arose in response to Frank's lynching and widespread antisemitism. He calls her claim morally indefensible without evidence.
- Israel as an ally: He strongly disputes Owens's claim that Israel is not a U.S. ally, citing intelligence sharing, military technology (e.g., Iron Dome), voting alignment with the U.S. at the UN, and technological innovation.
- Criticism vs. demonization: Prager concedes Israel has committed serious wrongs (e.g., USS Liberty, failure to extradite criminals, alleged prisoner abuse) but argues Owens applies a uniquely harsh, conspiratorial standard to Israel, similar to how the far left portrays America.
- "Zionist media" and U.S. occupation claims: He argues terms like "Zionist media" and claims that Israel "occupies" or controls America are false, conspiratorial, and historically associated with antisemitism.
- Anti-Zionism: Prager reiterates his long-held view that anti-Zionism is antisemitism because it uniquely denies the Jewish people a right to a nation while accepting all others. He contrasts Israel with Pakistan to argue the double standard.
- Historical inaccuracies: He corrects Owens on claims such as Stalin being Jewish and criticizes her for minimizing or mocking Nazi medical experiments and conflating Allied and Soviet postwar atrocities.
- Impact and responsibility: Prager emphasizes that regardless of intent, Owens's rhetoric attracts and energizes openly antisemitic audiences. He contrasts this with his own decades-long effort to defend Christians and promote Jewish-Christian solidarity.
Prager expresses sadness and shock, saying Owens--once admired by Jews and Christians alike--is now doing "great harm" to Jews and Israel. He urges her to reconsider, correct errors publicly, condemn antisemitism among her followers, and apply consistent moral standards. He offers dialogue and even proposes accompanying her on a fact-finding trip to Israel. The letter closes as a plea from a former ally, stressing that actions matter more than motives.
747Ag said:
Thread strikes me as more Politics rather than R&P... *shrug*
KentK93 said:747Ag said:
Thread strikes me as more Politics rather than R&P... *shrug*
I debated that with myself and decided I wanted a more thoughtful discussion vs the political on the letter. Since Dennis Prager is philosophical & religious. Sorry *shrug*
747Ag said:KentK93 said:747Ag said:
Thread strikes me as more Politics rather than R&P... *shrug*
I debated that with myself and decided I wanted a more thoughtful discussion vs the political on the letter. Since Dennis Prager is philosophical & religious. Sorry *shrug*
Yeah, understand that... the F16 version would devolve into mockery of Candance's opinions/claims/etc... in the first couple of replies.
KentK93 said:747Ag said:KentK93 said:747Ag said:
Thread strikes me as more Politics rather than R&P... *shrug*
I debated that with myself and decided I wanted a more thoughtful discussion vs the political on the letter. Since Dennis Prager is philosophical & religious. Sorry *shrug*
Yeah, understand that... the F16 version would devolve into mockery of Candance's opinions/claims/etc... in the first couple of replies.
Sorry not sure what you mean by F16 version?
747Ag said:KentK93 said:747Ag said:KentK93 said:747Ag said:
Thread strikes me as more Politics rather than R&P... *shrug*
I debated that with myself and decided I wanted a more thoughtful discussion vs the political on the letter. Since Dennis Prager is philosophical & religious. Sorry *shrug*
Yeah, understand that... the F16 version would devolve into mockery of Candance's opinions/claims/etc... in the first couple of replies.
Sorry not sure what you mean by F16 version?
Forum 16... Politics.
747Ag said:KentK93 said:747Ag said:
Thread strikes me as more Politics rather than R&P... *shrug*
I debated that with myself and decided I wanted a more thoughtful discussion vs the political on the letter. Since Dennis Prager is philosophical & religious. Sorry *shrug*
Yeah, understand that... the F16 version would devolve into mockery of Candance's opinions/claims/etc... in the first couple of replies.
Sapper Redux said:747Ag said:KentK93 said:747Ag said:
Thread strikes me as more Politics rather than R&P... *shrug*
I debated that with myself and decided I wanted a more thoughtful discussion vs the political on the letter. Since Dennis Prager is philosophical & religious. Sorry *shrug*
Yeah, understand that... the F16 version would devolve into mockery of Candance's opinions/claims/etc... in the first couple of replies.
Nah, based on the latest posting trends, it seems she has plenty of people who buy her blood libel.
Sapper Redux said:747Ag said:KentK93 said:747Ag said:
Thread strikes me as more Politics rather than R&P... *shrug*
I debated that with myself and decided I wanted a more thoughtful discussion vs the political on the letter. Since Dennis Prager is philosophical & religious. Sorry *shrug*
Yeah, understand that... the F16 version would devolve into mockery of Candance's opinions/claims/etc... in the first couple of replies.
Nah, based on the latest posting trends, it seems she has plenty of people who buy her blood libel.