Who actually votes for Trump?

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rmarshall2014
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Maybe I'm just isolated, but I have yet to meet anyone who has voted for/supports Trump.

Granted I'm a law student, and all of my friends have degrees. I know I'm hardly a cross section of America.
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Did someone say Trump??
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biobioprof
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I don't know anyone who has publicly said this, but I knew profs who supported Perot, so i'm sure there are some Trumpkins in all walks of life.
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I went to Stanford, and I voted for Donald Trump. So did my husband. He went to Yale.
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The common wisdom is that the majority of Trump's supporters are barely literate knuckle-draggers. They're "low-information," in the words of Trump's leading GOP rival nationwide, Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas. And it's true that the largest education-level cohort among the Republicans who have consistently given Trump a double-digit lead in the primaries consists of people with high-school educations or less.

But in Massachusetts, home of Harvard and MIT and ranked as the No. 1 state for residents possessing at least a bachelor's degree, a CNN exit poll for the March 1 GOP primary showed Trump winning over 46% of voters with college degrees and even edging out Ohio "moderate" Gov. John Kasich (29% to 28%) among voters with postgraduate sheepskins. Exit polls in other states show similar results
But if you read further into her reasons, it comes down to skepticism about Econ 101 issues related to trade.

Last night I was thinking that the perfect song for the Trump campaign is the Georgia Satellites classic with the refrain:
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Don't hand me no lines and keep your hands to yourself
I was looking for the lyrics and ran across this Rolling Stone profile of the songwriter, who was describing a new song with his current band.
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Onstage later that night, Homemade Sin rip through a two-hour set of Satellites cuts, Baird solo material and songs off Get Loud, never with a set list Baird calls for songs on the fly. One of them is the Get Loud standout "Fairground People," about the hardscrabble folks eking out an existence in one of Nashville's rare neighborhoods not underdoing gentrification. It's a Southern Springsteen tale, about those born not to run, but "on the bottom rung."

"They're the poor white trash who didn't finish high school. I know they're Trump supporters and 'white man can't get a break' people, but still they're salt of the earth. I hate them and I love them," he says. "I used to work construction surveying and I know every one of them. It's like, 'Must be nice to have a new 4x4, but I'll never know.' Or 'Man, I got to put down this meth and get back on my roofing crew.'"

The song is a portrait not a judgment, Baird stresses.
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I have not met anyone personally. I have a few Facebook friends that seem to support him but they are not the sharpest tools in the shed. In fact I think some of them are probably former Obama voters. I try not to talk politics on Facebook at all though so I can't be sure.
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No one knows.
MelvinUdall
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I think Perot, and correct me if I am wrong, was a lot more knowledgeable about policy than Trump. The one major error Perit had was picking that old Admiral to be his running mate.
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I have a coworker who isn't not politically involved but this year she is all for trump, becuase he is not afraid to say mean things and he won't take no for answer
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trumps-many-bigoted-supporters/2016/04/01/1df763d6-f803-11e5-8b23-538270a1ca31_story.html
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Perot was likeable in a funny way. Its easy to forget it was pre-Internet and Dot.com boom, and in 1992 the immediate future looked kind of stagnant. After such a great run in the Gulf War of '91, then Bush41 was now governing with an almost Boehner-style and not running a campaign that even came across like he wanted the job again. (Jeb's had echoes of this.)

Perot was a known succuessful tycoon, and in his tie to th just rising information industry gave an extra air. He was very anti-globalist, which was the new trend among the elite, and has remained so. He went around talking about a "giant vacuuming and sucking sound" of U.S. jobs out of the country and across the border if NAFTA and other international deals were signed. (He seems to have proved more right than wrong on the effects of globalist politicians, but its hard to tell.)

He also was against things like a U.N. emphasis, or New World Order.

He had very great appeal among all those that didn't like anemic politics (we would call it GOPe today) and didn't like Democrat choices. But he was very good at self-sabotage, and way too anti-Bush for its own sake (like jumping back in in 'Oct'92 after dropping out in the summer. But that may have been due to tactics against him. This has been heard.)

In fact, one of the strengths of Clinton was the appealing way he did tack toward the center in '92, and seemed might work out fine. (And he did, but only because of the shared power with Gingrich that came about in 1994 leading to one of the more effective periods).

Bottom line: if Trump's supporters are Perot-revisited; than they are mostly not far Left, and can be won over probably.
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The crowd at WrestleMania in DFW this weekend should give you a pretty good cross-section of Trump voters.
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I think Perot, and correct me if I am wrong, was a lot more knowledgeable about policy than Trump. The one major error Perit had was picking that old Admiral to be his running mate.
It's been a while, but my recollection is that Perot wasn't particularly expert on policy in general, but was not as full of it as Trump on his signature issue, the deficit and national debt.

The time of his run was just 3 years after the Berlin Wall came down and it was a time when there were a lot of foolish ideas about "The End of History" floating around that made foreign policy less of an issue than it is now. Nobody was worried about how Perot would handle the Global War on Terror. The economic nationalism was Trump-like in substance, but didn't have the forays into targeting families and randomly nuking places. Or making Mexico pay for stuff.
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I'm in NY and have yet to meet a Trump supporter. I know they exist, maybe I just live in a bubble?
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I think Perot, and correct me if I am wrong, was a lot more knowledgeable about policy than Trump. The one major error Perit had was picking that old Admiral to be his running mate.
It's been a while, but my recollection is that Perot wasn't particularly expert on policy in general, but was not as full of it as Trump on his signature issue, the deficit and national debt.

The time of his run was just 3 years after the Berlin Wall came down and it was a time when there were a lot of foolish ideas about "The End of History" floating around that made foreign policy less of an issue than it is now. Nobody was worried about how Perot would handle the Global War on Terror. The economic nationalism was Trump-like in substance, but didn't have the forays into targeting families and randomly nuking places. Or making Mexico pay for stuff.


I am so economic centric with politicians, that he appealed to me from economic standpoint that I didn't think globally, but that was another time. As poster said above, I believe he was semi-right about NAFTA and our trade policies and the ultimate impacts of jobs. I also believe that Unions play a huge role in that as well. In the end he lost me with Admiral he picked up and I had forgot that he had dropped out for a while.
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Maybe I'm just isolated, but I have yet to meet anyone who has voted for/supports Trump
From her response to something I said, I think that the lady who cleans my teeth is a Trump supporter.

I also know one local woman who was a Trump supporter but tired of him the more she saw of him and switched to Cruz. If everyone was like that, the more Trump is in the news, the better. Unfortunately, many aren't like that.
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That reminds of something Rush pointed out recently when talking about the GOPe rejection of Cruz and Trump and MSM claims of electability .

"Something has to be wrong with the polls for someone to keep winning by such margins".

The visual evidence of the turn-out seems greater than any other statistical factor claim. There is not alot of doubt it is a shared Cruz and Trump turnout (not for establishment) you saw in Texas; the Democrat turnout was anemic.

South Carolina, you saw it for Trump, then again on the Super Tuesday. We saw it again in Arizona and Minnesota for Cruz, and looks to be also Wisconsin. So Cruz seems to generate similar turnout

On the Democrat side, Bernie generates that, but not Hillary.
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Perot was likeable in a funny way. Its easy to forget it was pre-Internet and Dot.com boom, and in 1992 the immediate future looked kind of stagnant. After such a great run in the Gulf War of '91, then Bush41 was now governing with an almost Boehner-style and not running a campaign that even came across like he wanted the job again. (Jeb's had echoes of this.)

Perot was a known succuessful tycoon, and in his tie to th just rising information industry gave an extra air. He was very anti-globalist, which was the new trend among the elite, and has remained so. He went around talking about a "giant vacuuming and sucking sound" of U.S. jobs out of the country and across the border if NAFTA and other international deals were signed. (He seems to have proved more right than wrong on the effects of globalist politicians, but its hard to tell.)

He also was against things like a U.N. emphasis, or New World Order.

He had very great appeal among all those that didn't like anemic politics (we would call it GOPe today) and didn't like Democrat choices. But he was very good at self-sabotage, and way too anti-Bush for its own sake (like jumping back in in 'Oct'92 after dropping out in the summer. But that may have been due to tactics against him. This has been heard.)

In fact, one of the strengths of Clinton was the appealing way he did tack toward the center in '92, and seemed might work out fine. (And he did, but only because of the shared power with Gingrich that came about in 1994 leading to one of the more effective periods).

Bottom line: if Trump's supporters are Perot-revisited; than they are mostly not far Left, and can be won over probably.

From what I understand, a great many of Perot's supporters were frequent Republican voters but who were not happy with President Bush and would have voted for Clinton had Perot not run. In other words, if Perot had not run, Clinton would likely have won with a much bigger margin.

I read an article the other day about the polls at the time Perot entered the race. The percentage of those supporting Clinton fell about 4 to 5 times more than the percentage of those supporting Bush reducing Clinton's lead.

In any case, what I liked best about Perot was that he genuinely cared for the soldiers who had fought in Viet Nam, particularly those who may have been left behind.
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I have yet to meet a Trump supporter in person. They're plenty online 24/7, so either the people I know are smart not enough not to be taken in by a charlatan, or they're too embarrassed to say they voted for him.
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titan
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Well they clearly showed up at voting booths around the nation. What seeing here is if you met a Perot supporter, they may or may not closely coincide.

Kind of like Obama, the Trump supporters may have a more active online presence than their opponents.
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All this means is that you don't live in a trailer park.
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I have a few real-life friends / coworkers who are Trump supporters and a few loud Facebook friends who support him, none of whom I consider geniuses..
eric76
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In my precinct, Trump only got one vote. I'm still trying to guess who that was.
titan
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Don't overplay the slams on intellect though, because most of the elite or self-declared intelligent and the like were all in and many stay that way, for Obama.

When considering the ones know, its more a frustrated betrayed middle-class thing than anything else. That is why there is a sizable chunk on the Center Left among them.

It is not excessive to say D.C. these days caters to the lower class with Santa Claus policies for vote pandering, to take the money of the productive and small businesses (which they call "rich" and not their donors) to buy their elections and position.
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Did someone say Trump??
Maybe "Trump" sounds like "Waffle House" and "bathtub meth" to the 85%.
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I bet a lot of these people will vote for Trump in the Indiana primary on May 3rd.
P.H. Dexippus
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Because Trump can force companies through bullying to stay in the US or relocate here. Right?
titan
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Because they believe he can. And know Hillary and GOPe won't even try.

And it is clear he is one of the few that brings this kind of thing up; names the companies, etc.

Don't underestimate it.
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To bad there's no video of the people who don't have jobs in the United States for the production of these products.




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In my precinct, Trump only got one vote. I'm still trying to guess who that was.

I live in the snobbiest subdivision in all of West Frisco, and our precinct had 138 vote Cruz and 111 vote trump. One hundred and eleven. I am shocked. Just outright dismayed.
titan
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Keith,
The catch-22 there is he has answered that by saying, "yes he does it, that is how the system is skewed with the taxes, etc, etc" and "but he wants to not have to do it, to be able to bring it back"

What matters here is that it is believed.

MelvinUdall
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In my precinct, Trump only got one vote. I'm still trying to guess who that was.

I live in the snobbiest subdivision in all of West Frisco, and our precinct had 138 vote Cruz and 111 vote trump. One hundred and eleven. I am shocked. Just outright dismayed.


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I live in the snobbiest subdivision in all of West Frisco, and our precinct had 138 vote Cruz and 111 vote trump. One hundred and eleven. I am shocked. Just outright dismayed.

Actually that makes alot of sense if they are not Left. Because that is the pattern noted above --- it is Cruz and Trump that is creating high turnout; not much interest in anyone else, especially since Rubio got tangled up in his past vote, Carson fluttered, and Fiorina's just crashed. But they were part of the same phenomena too.
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Moved in during the height of the 2008 crash. Now I'm just trying to time my sale correctly. Trust me, I don't belong.
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Moved in during the height of the 2008 crash. Now I'm just trying to time my sale correctly. Trust me, I don't belong.
Well la-ti-frickin-da. "Ooohh, look at me! I can afford a residence with a roof and a foundation." Take it to the Rolls Royce board, Mr. I Don't Live In a 1976 VW Camper Van.
 
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