I knew as soon as I started seeing Blinken say the Biden admin did most of the work that this was going to be their schtick.

They always need to keep their pathetic masses from having any cognitive dissonance. Hilariously, even Hillary Clinton complimented Trump.

One of the living released hostages was active duty Sayeret Matkal, somehow the IDF kept that secret for 2 years or he would have received a special kind of torture

No worries. Gaza is back to normal with the inhabitants killing each other.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/10/14/blindfold-executions-hamas-trump-plan-israeli-withdrawl/

They've already said they won't disarm and leave.

Hoping Net just resumes killing them post haste.

Over and under on when Hamas strikes?
And will Israel go straight to Iran to retaliate?
We could build those miscreants palaces full of better stuff than you and I have, Give them a check- we could offer work, but work is nothing their DNA. And they will still piss and moan about their plight. No one wants these dregs. Everyone wants to pass them to someone else. Brute punishment is all they can understand- and for you libs- some folks are just happier under the thumb of strongmen. It's in their dna. No matter what you do for them.
Like herding cats.

amazing that the Zionists care more about innocent Palestinians being murdered in the streets by Hamas...

more than the "hamas supporters" in the West.

Thanks to F16 and TexAgs for this two year old thread!

B'h we will be able to have peace and not have to see this thread anymore for quite some time.

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Thanks to F16 and TexAgs for this two year old thread!

B'h we will be able to have peace and not have to see this thread anymore for quite some time.

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I fear that this is just a pause. Palestinians will attack again.

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LMCane said:

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Thanks to F16 and TexAgs for this two year old thread!

B'h we will be able to have peace and not have to see this thread anymore for quite some time.

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I fear that this is just a pause. Palestinians will attack again.

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Inevitable. I've read multiple articles with quotes and interviews from Palestinians on the ground who stated that while they wanted this war to end and are glad for it, they still thought the terms were unfair towards Hamas.

So, it took reducing the Palestinians to their base level of Mazlow's needs to get them to capitulate, but many of them still ideologically believe in Hamas.

We will be right back here in the future unless Israel kicks all of them totally out.

YouBet said:

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aTmAg said:

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LMCane said:

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Thanks to F16 and TexAgs for this two year old thread!

B'h we will be able to have peace and not have to see this thread anymore for quite some time.

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I fear that this is just a pause. Palestinians will attack again.

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Inevitable. I've read multiple articles with quotes and interviews from Palestinians on the ground who stated that while they wanted this war to end and are glad for it, they still thought the terms were unfair towards Hamas.

So, it took reducing the Palestinians to their base level of Mazlow's needs to get them to capitulate, but many of them still ideologically believe in Hamas.

We will be right back here in the future unless Israel kicks all of them totally out.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15188843/Trumps-peace-deal-Hamas-bodies-Netanyahu.html

It's going to fail.

I give it less than 30 days. These people have been fighting for thousands of years and they are not gonna stop.

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I give it less than 30 days. These people have been fighting for thousands of years and they are not gonna stop.

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Well imho, if it fails and now that Israel has all the live hostages, then the Israeli citizens will support Bibi to just go ahead and eliminate the rest of Hamas without mercy.

This whole thing just feels like professional wrestling. You get the heavy on the ropes, then the crooked ref intervenes. Or the heavy tags a teammate, who comes out with a folding chair or something. It's probably better to just finish this.

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Hoyt Ag said:

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I give it less than 30 days. These people have been fighting for thousands of years and they are not gonna stop.

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Well imho, if it fails and now that Israel has all the live hostages, then the Israeli citizens will support Bibi to just go ahead and eliminate the rest of Hamas without mercy.

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Cue the "this is the way" gif

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LMCane said:

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Thanks to F16 and TexAgs for this two year old thread!

B'h we will be able to have peace and not have to see this thread anymore for quite some time.

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I fear that this is just a pause. Palestinians will attack again.

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Inevitable. I've read multiple articles with quotes and interviews from Palestinians on the ground who stated that while they wanted this war to end and are glad for it, they still thought the terms were unfair towards Hamas.

So, it took reducing the Palestinians to their base level of Mazlow's needs to get them to capitulate, but many of them still ideologically believe in Hamas.

We will be right back here in the future unless Israel kicks all of them totally out.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15188843/Trumps-peace-deal-Hamas-bodies-Netanyahu.html

It's going to fail.

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Following quote is insane. "Ultra right-wing" is what totally side-lined Iran, got the rest of the ME players on the side of Trump, and decimated Hamas.

So, give us more right-wing.

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'The US will be the judge of long term peace. I wish it were Israel, but it can't happen with this current government that mixes ultra-right wing ideology with security considerations. It doesn't fully represent the Israeli public or Israel's best long-term security interests,' she said.

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Its been a couple days now. Lots of videos out of gaza are public. 2 things really stick out

1. Famine? Clearly there wasnt a famine, not in any traditional sense anyway.

2. Genocide- people using that should be laughed all the way back to the clown car from whence they come

Imagine being upset about the president telling terrorist they will be killed if they keep being terrorist. Boo hoo

Why aren’t you celebrating!!! https://t.co/CfbH9zA0j0

— Dave Smith (@ComicDaveSmith) October 16, 2025

Dave Smith is an idiot who cannot change his opinion now.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15268405/Israeli-hostage-revealed-sexual-abuse-captors-details-horror-endured-20-minute-torture-seven-times-day-dance-blindfolded-stones-ears-weeks-met-Devil.html

DISCLAIMER: I will not bring in parts of this article because it's a disturbing read but a first hand account of the savages that Israel has to live with daily.

I hope Hamas breaks the ceasefire and the IDF eliminates every last one of these evil ****s!

Prayers for healing for this man.

ProgN said:

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15268405/Israeli-hostage-revealed-sexual-abuse-captors-details-horror-endured-20-minute-torture-seven-times-day-dance-blindfolded-stones-ears-weeks-met-Devil.html

DISCLAIMER: I will not bring in parts of this article because it's a disturbing read but a first hand account of the savages that Israel has to live with daily.

I hope Hamas breaks the ceasefire and the IDF eliminates every last one of these evil ****s!

Prayers for healing for this man.

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even worse on 7 October

and that is why many survivors have then ended themselves in the last two years.

It's horrible what Israelis endured on 10/7 and decades prior and have had to show restraint. If that happened in America, we'd eliminate everyone and tell the world to gfy.

I'm not so sure we would. The dems would go to the mat to prevent it.

Hopefully Israel realizes the only way to stop the ferals is to wipe out every living thing in Gaza no matter how they go about it.

As expected (at least from me), this peace deal is going to ultimately fail. Hamas has reestablished control and is not going to disarm so not sure how Phase 2 of this plan is going to work. Israel will have to refight the war all over again.

Hamas now has support of the Palestinians again and the longer nothing happens the more that support rises. Just stupid people who all need to kicked out once and for all.

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In a poll published last month by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research, based in the West Bank, 51% of Gazans surveyed expressed positive views of Hamas's performance during the war, up from 43% in May and 39% just over a year ago. The poll had a margin of error of 3.5 percentage points. On a separate question about support for political parties in theoretical elections, 41% of Gazans said they aligned with Hamas, up 4 percentage points from five months prior and the highest level of support since December 2023.

Palestinians surveyed in Gaza were split on the Trump plan's call for disarming Hamas, with a slight majority of 55% opposed and 44% in support, according to the poll.

A slim majority of 52% of Gazans opposed the entry of an international force tasked with disarming Hamas, according to the poll.

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Still, the pollsters were surprised by the results. The trend over the past 12 months in previous polls has been declines or weakness in Hamas's popularity, particularly in Gaza.

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Probably because Hamas already killed any of the burgeoning opposition which was already reported as happening.

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The Trump plan has successfully halted most of the fighting in Gaza, but it has also opened the door for Hamas to consolidate its control. On the militant group's side of the yellow line, there is currently no viable alternative.

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So, good luck to Israel when your people get brutally raped and murdered again in a few years.

either they will eventually send in an Arab force to gain control-

or the IDF will go in to the positions beyond the yellow line and once and for all annihilate Hamas.

it's inevitable.

currently, the IDF is arming and supporting anti-Hamas Palestinian forces on their side of the yellow line. that will be expanded.

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either they will eventually send in an Arab force to gain control-

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Will never happen.

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or the IDF will go in to the positions beyond the yellow line and once and for all annihilate Hamas.

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I expect this to be the case.

I hope Bibi can stay in power long enough to finish this. It appears he is the only one with the balls to see it through. If Hamas reneges on the "Deal", I think Trump gives him the green light to go medieval on them.

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I hope Bibi can stay in power long enough to finish this. It appears he is the only one with the balls to see it through. If Hamas reneges on the "Deal", I think Trump gives him the green light to go medieval on them.

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Bibi doesn't need trumps green light for anything. Besides, Bibi is busy trying to decide how much aid the US is going to send. $3.8 Billion may be enough, but it may not he'll let us know what it'll be. He doesn't have time to ask permission for anything.

https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel/diplomacy-defense/artc-israel-considers-a-gradual-reduction-of-us-military-aid