Meals on Wheels funding?

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Maroon Elephant
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I am reading everywhere that Trump has essentially crippled this program by cutting funding somehow. What is the story here?
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I saw an interview and after a back and forth, the interviewer said that Meals on Wheels was unsure if their funding would be cut or not. Sounded like a fear tactic from the media and NGO panic.

This is a Department of Agriculture funded operation similar to reduced school lunches, no?
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Why does the Fed Gov have anything to do with something that should be handled at the local level?
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Was going to be my question. Why is this a federal function?
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vansprinkle said:

Why does the Fed Gov have anything to do with something that should be handled at the local level?


Feeding citizens in peacetime sure doesn't seem to be in the constitution (between the lines or otherwise). Therefore it becomes a responsibility of the states if they decide to do it. So, yeah
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Govt interference, even here, makes things less efficient.

Like when , in Houston IIRC, the local govt shut down a small charity that was feeding the homeless because they were doing it from a private kitchen and not some regulated kitchen. Because people that eat out of trash cans, at times, cared....oh wait, no they didn't.
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vansprinkle said:

Why does the Fed Gov have anything to do with something that should be handled at the local level?


I wonder how much money the federal government funds to states. I agree with your question. Why are we paying federal taxes that then get distributed back, through bureaucracy to the states we live. The overhead and inefficiency sounds less than ideal.
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Maroon Elephant said:

I am reading everywhere that Trump has essentially crippled this program by cutting funding somehow. What is the story here?


Not much of a story just one of the random things Govt does usually with the help of a local non-profit in small towns it's usually run by the church ladies at one of their fellowship halls with a full industrial kitchen and those gals ain't getting rich doing it.

My wife's grandparents were on it the last ten years they were alive. Only one of their children still lived in town and She worked in Waco( about 30 minutes away) . Lilly enjoyed having two meals delivered for lunch she was in her late 80's and her husband was in his 90's. My mother in law would check in on them and make them dinner after work. Meals on Wheels helped them stay in their home and the people bringing the meals were locals and acquaintances

Even if people are willing to donate their time the food and the gasoline to make it happen is probably not in a small town church's budget.
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My band played at a Meals on Wheels private fund raiser last Saturday night in Round Rock. For free. As it should be. Charity is best done by normal folks. The State/Feds just muck it up, charge 'handling' overhead, and attaching strings to their disbursement of OPM.

Professional 'charities' tend to never end and spend too much of their time/effort in raising money instead of actually doing the supposed mission of the charity. Be careful to whom you give your money.
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Good night….does everything has to come from the government?

Cut the program, cut the government completely the heck out of it…..good samartans will line up to fill that gap. Yep. So what if a few folks go hungry for a week or so. The service will re establish and will begin. To provide again.
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Does the government need to be funding this? Seems like it's a charitable organization and should get it's funds from fund-raising and philanthropy.
Somehow we've conflated the government to being synonymous with charitable giving.
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ts5641 said:

Does the government need to be funding this? Seems like it's a charitable organization and should get it's funds from fund-raising and philanthropy.
No.
Correct.
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FCBlitz said:

Good night….does everything has to come from the government?

Cut the program, cut the government completely the heck out of it…..good samartans will line up to fill that gap. Yep. So what if a few folks go hungry for a week or so. The service will re establish and will begin. To provide again.
If you lower taxes and put more money in people's pockets, they're more likely to give to charitable causes.
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ts5641 said:

FCBlitz said:

Good night….does everything has to come from the government?

Cut the program, cut the government completely the heck out of it…..good samartans will line up to fill that gap. Yep. So what if a few folks go hungry for a week or so. The service will re establish and will begin. To provide again.
If you lower taxes and put more money in people's pockets, they're more likely to give to charitable causes.
Trick - down!
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BigFred said:

ts5641 said:

FCBlitz said:

Good night….does everything has to come from the government?

Cut the program, cut the government completely the heck out of it…..good samartans will line up to fill that gap. Yep. So what if a few folks go hungry for a week or so. The service will re establish and will begin. To provide again.
If you lower taxes and put more money in people's pockets, they're more likely to give to charitable causes.
Trick - down!
Not everybody expects other people to pay for what they want.
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Sq 17 said:

Maroon Elephant said:

I am reading everywhere that Trump has essentially crippled this program by cutting funding somehow. What is the story here?


Not much of a story just one of the random things Govt does usually with the help of a local non-profit in small towns it's usually run by the church ladies at one of their fellowship halls with a full industrial kitchen and those gals ain't getting rich doing it.

My wife's grandparents were on it the last ten years they were alive. Only one of their children still lived in town and She worked in Waco( about 30 minutes away) . Lilly enjoyed having two meals delivered for lunch she was in her late 80's and her husband was in his 90's. My mother in law would check in on them and make them dinner after work. Meals on Wheels helped them stay in their home and the people bringing the meals were locals and acquaintances

Even if people are willing to donate their time the food and the gasoline to make it happen is probably not in a small town church's budget.


I think in general people would be fine with this if it was "another" program on top of all the other crap that's been exposed the past 60 days. It's inevitable that we're going to throw the baby out with the bath water as the corruption and grift gets cut. Things like this likely come back at some point but right now we're in the chainsaw phase, not the scalpel one.

Or this is the establishment trying to generate fear about "good" government programs being cut to turn people against any government cuts.

The federal government was never meant to be this powerful.
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Maroon Elephant said:

I am reading everywhere that Trump has essentially crippled this program by cutting funding somehow. What is the story here?
Meals on Wheels put out a statement concerning loss of funding after passage of the CR.

"This CR extends government funding through September 30, 2025. A government shutdown is never the desired outcome, but the flat funding levels set in this CR represent, in effect, a funding cut that could lead to a reduction in services, given rising costs and increased need among a rapidly growing senior population."

Like many government programs, they consider a flat funding level a "funding cut". In that spirit, I had a funding cut this year.

https://www.mealsonwheelsamerica.org/learn-more/national/press-room/news/2025/03/14/meals-on-wheels-america-issues-statement-on-passage-of-h.r.-1968-full-year-continuing-appropriations-and-extensions-act-2025
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vansprinkle said:

Why does the Fed Gov have anything to do with something that should be handled at the local level?


Why does the federal government need to fund charities? If they need federal funding, they aren't private charities. I just don't understand this.
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On the list of things that I think should be canceled, government funding of Meals on Wheels is at the very, very bottom.
If you say you hate the state of politics in this nation and you don't get involved in it, you obviously don't hate the state of politics in this nation.
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

On the list of things that I think should be canceled, government funding of Meals on Wheels is at the very, very bottom.


As I tried to say I think we can generally agree on this. But this isn't a surgical operation, the size and scope of the federal budget make that impossible. We're going to see good tossed out with bad. Blame 60 years of unfettered growth in the scope of government not the first guy in 40 years to try and reign it all in.
The federal government was never meant to be this powerful.
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LOYAL AG said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

On the list of things that I think should be canceled, government funding of Meals on Wheels is at the very, very bottom.


As I tried to say I think we can generally agree on this. But this isn't a surgical operation, the size and scope of the federal budget make that impossible. We're going to see good tossed out with bad. Blame 60 years of unfettered growth in the scope of government not the first guy in 40 years to try and reign it all in.
No doubt.
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ts5641 said:

FCBlitz said:

Good night….does everything has to come from the government?

Cut the program, cut the government completely the heck out of it…..good samartans will line up to fill that gap. Yep. So what if a few folks go hungry for a week or so. The service will re establish and will begin. To provide again.
If you lower taxes and put more money in people's pockets, they're more likely to give to charitable causes.


To add to that, there were big city government….like Houston that banned church groups from feeding the poor. So by mandating a government stream of cash….sone freak gets to pick winners and losers for food and supply contracts.
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AJ02 said:

Was going to be my question. Why is this a federal function?


any function that you have to ask why is this a federal function. the answer is to steal tax payer dollars.

that is the answe 100% of the time.
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So, if this program didn't exist, the family wouldn't have stepped in to help keep them fed and at home?
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redcrayon said:

So, if this program didn't exist, the family wouldn't have stepped in to help keep them fed and at home?
All the people over the age of 55 would die of starvation AND they would be denied their medical care AND their Social Security checks!
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redcrayon said:

So, if this program didn't exist, the family wouldn't have stepped in to help keep them fed and at home?
Sad fact, not all families care about their elders.
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GenericAggie said:

vansprinkle said:

Why does the Fed Gov have anything to do with something that should be handled at the local level?


I wonder how much money the federal government funds to states. I agree with your question. Why are we paying federal taxes that then get distributed back, through bureaucracy to the states we live. The overhead and inefficiency sounds less than ideal.
$37 Trillion Debt agrees.
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doubledog said:

redcrayon said:

So, if this program didn't exist, the family wouldn't have stepped in to help keep them fed and at home?
Sad fact, not all families care about their elders.
Reality check: No matter how little a family may care for their elders, it is still more than any government bureaucracy.
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Phatbob said:

doubledog said:

redcrayon said:

So, if this program didn't exist, the family wouldn't have stepped in to help keep them fed and at home?
Sad fact, not all families care about their elders.
Reality check: No matter how little a family may care for their elders, it is still more than any government bureaucracy.
The government bureaucracy isn't feeding the family. They're just paying for it.
If you say you hate the state of politics in this nation and you don't get involved in it, you obviously don't hate the state of politics in this nation.
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I swear, these agencies and Americans crying just need to do what every responsible American does when sheet happens in life - find a way.
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GenericAggie said:

vansprinkle said:

Why does the Fed Gov have anything to do with something that should be handled at the local level?


I wonder how much money the federal government funds to states. I agree with your question. Why are we paying federal taxes that then get distributed back, through bureaucracy to the states we live. The overhead and inefficiency sounds less than ideal.

Let me tell you a little something about building roads…
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

Phatbob said:

doubledog said:

redcrayon said:

So, if this program didn't exist, the family wouldn't have stepped in to help keep them fed and at home?
Sad fact, not all families care about their elders.
Reality check: No matter how little a family may care for their elders, it is still more than any government bureaucracy.
The government bureaucracy isn't feeding the family. They're just paying for it.
Ahh, so they won't starve, then. Good.

When people care, they make the necessary happen, and funding can be found that is NOT from an uncaring bureaucracy. Benefits come from that via process improvements and societal responsibility awareness that are casualties of a government funded system.

There is a non-zero amount of that callousness of family towards their elders that exists because they feel like it is societies job to care for them, not their own. Continuing to support that is a codependent behavior.
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Phatbob said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

Phatbob said:

doubledog said:

redcrayon said:

So, if this program didn't exist, the family wouldn't have stepped in to help keep them fed and at home?
Sad fact, not all families care about their elders.
Reality check: No matter how little a family may care for their elders, it is still more than any government bureaucracy.
The government bureaucracy isn't feeding the family. They're just paying for it.
Ahh, so they won't starve, then. Good.

When people care, they make the necessary happen, and funding can be found that is NOT from an uncaring bureaucracy. Benefits come from that via process improvements and societal responsibility awareness that are casualties of a government funded system.

There is a non-zero amount of that callousness of family towards their elders that exists because they feel like it is societies job to care for them, not their own. Continuing to support that is a codependent behavior.

Maybe. Yet again, this is probably the last thing I care about being funded by the Federal Government.
If you say you hate the state of politics in this nation and you don't get involved in it, you obviously don't hate the state of politics in this nation.
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Meals on Wheels does get funded by the Federal Government, as well as State Government and local charities like St. David's in Austin, different clubs in towns, etc. The meals aren't prepared at some "local kitchen" like someone suggested (some organizations do that on their own)…in Central Texas hot meals are prepared at the HQ in Austin and then distributed daily to the various sites. Many people choose the frozen meals which are distributed once every week. The vast majority of elderly people who receive help desperately need it…not everyone has relatives they can rely on. All who receive must be "homebound" to qualify…plus when the meal gets delivered that might be the only person they get to see all week…and it also serves as a wellness check. Ladies that run sites in various rural towns get about $10 an hour…and volunteers from churches and groups deliver. Yes, funding from the Federal Government definitely helps keep this afloat…and we need to definitely keep it and help take care of elderly people that have no other alternative….its called "promote the general welfare" in the preamble. I'm really surprised at the attitude on here of cutting a program that does so many good things and helps needy us citizens!!! This isn't money going to study transgender mice or trans coloring books….this is a great program!!
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