US bombardment of Houthis continues

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AtticusMatlock
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Seems like this is getting under reported by the media. This is the most sustained wave of airstrikes the United States has conducted in years.

It also seems to be having some effect.









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Precision? Not precision? No one cares about the difference anymore. Just do it.

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To be honest our Govt has been mostly silent on this. This should be a top page story.
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Any Iranian/Russian SAM opposition? Always a curiosity how they were handled, if so.
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So when do the courts step in to halt this bombing of terrorists ? ? ?
AtticusMatlock
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It looks like the initial strikes were designed to take out air defense radars. Biden Administration also launched a few strikes against air defenses but those seemed to be much more limited.

They've got some Iranian donated stuff plus whatever Russian crap they've had around for a few decades but it isn't all that good. They've shot down a few unarmed surveillance drones over the last year or two. They also took a shot at an F-16 in February and missed. Probably the luckiest miss for the Houthis.

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newbie11 said:

Precision? Not precision? No one cares about the difference anymore. Just do it.
Precision is fine. Why waste 100 bombs when 1 will do?

Why send 20-50 aircraft when one plane carrying a full load out of precision munitions can take out anywhere from 4 up to 50+ targets? The latter of course would be a heavy bomber.
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newbie11 said:




Precision? Not precision? No one cares about the difference anymore. Just do it.

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Sorry. My apologies but I never look at X. I guess I'm just as smart as those people and happen to post the same thing.
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How much money we going to waste on this?
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amercer said:

How much money we going to waste on this?
Depends on how much they want to continue disrupting international shipping. We've been guardians of the sealanes for about a century now. It's what we do.
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Looks like about a trillion dollars worth of improvements to me. The complete extinction of the hourhis would be a great service to mankind.
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Hate that innocent people are most likely getting killed in that bombing, but this is the reality of life in muslim countries. Everyone will suffer in some form.
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PCC_80 said:

So when do the courts step in to halt this bombing of terrorists ? ? ?
A judge in Hawaii is drafting a bench warrant as we speak.
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techno-ag said:

amercer said:

How much money we going to waste on this?
Depends on how much they want to continue disrupting international shipping. We've been guardians of the sealanes for about a century now. It's what we do.

This is directly connected to the Israel conduct in Gaza. You'll notice that the Houthis stop attacking whenever there is a ceasefire in Gaza. Yet another example of us doing foreign war on behalf of Israel.
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Keyno said:

techno-ag said:

amercer said:

How much money we going to waste on this?
Depends on how much they want to continue disrupting international shipping. We've been guardians of the sealanes for about a century now. It's what we do.

This is directly connected to the Israel conduct in Gaza. You'll notice that the Houthis stop attacking whenever there is a ceasefire in Gaza. Yet another example of us doing foreign war on behalf of Israel.

We definitely stand with Israel. They are probably our closest allies in the world right now (and praise God for that).
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This would take some time and money but is a hilarious idea to consider/pontificate; Iowa class battleships reactivated for this mission?

FWIW, the USS New Jersey guy is a great YouTuber.
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techno-ag said:

Keyno said:

techno-ag said:

amercer said:

How much money we going to waste on this?
Depends on how much they want to continue disrupting international shipping. We've been guardians of the sealanes for about a century now. It's what we do.

This is directly connected to the Israel conduct in Gaza. You'll notice that the Houthis stop attacking whenever there is a ceasefire in Gaza. Yet another example of us doing foreign war on behalf of Israel.

We definitely stand with Israel. They are probably our closest allies in the world right now (and praise God for that).


They certainly are our most competent ally.
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What does commercial/civilian shipping between Europe and East Asia have to do with conflict between Israel and Gaza?
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nortex97 said:

This would take some time and money but is a hilarious idea to consider/pontificate; Iowa class battleships reactivated for this mission?

FWIW, the USS New Jersey guy is a great YouTuber.



You posted in the other thread that the B-2's at Diego Garcia were for Yemen instead of Iran because the carrier air wing lacked the range to strike the Houthis. Now this? Laughable, but not funny.
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AtticusMatlock
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This is stretching us thin. Read another article about the US needing to mobilize cheaper anti drone technology due to cost of what they are expending against these little crappy things the Houthis are shooting.

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amercer said:

How much money we going to waste on this?
A lot less than the cost of a new destroyer.
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I thought the goal of the houthis was to die for their religion and receive 40 virgins (questionable) for their efforts. They have to be down to the transexuals by now. It looks like we are still accommodating them. BTW does anybody know who the head Houthi is now? Surely somebody has stepped up and taken the job
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A lot of 'precision guided munitions' supposedly dropped from materiel taken to Diego Garcia…by B-2's.



B-2's have plenty of range to launch 'a lot' of these stand-off weapons without being noticed by Houthi radars. The Iowa would be more fun to see in action again though.
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GAC06 said:

nortex97 said:

This would take some time and money but is a hilarious idea to consider/pontificate; Iowa class battleships reactivated for this mission?

FWIW, the USS New Jersey guy is a great YouTuber.

You posted in the other thread that the B-2's at Diego Garcia were for Yemen instead of Iran because the carrier air wing lacked the range to strike the Houthis. Now this? Laughable, but not funny.
B-2's have been used for over a week to target Houthi's. Per your favorite war correspondent:

Ward Carroll is an F-14 radar/backseat combat vet. What's laughable is your dismissiveness. Trump has applied pressure to Iran, no doubt.
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The B-2's are at DG for Iran. Using them in Yemen is also a message to Iran. Also most likely the JASSM's are from other aircraft, as the whole point of the B-2's are that they don't need standoff. If they're firing them from B-2's that's a dog and pony show. The guy you quoted days ago that said the B-2's were there because the carrier air wing lacked the range was a ridiculous take.
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We seem to lack the means to wipe out the Houthi's, net.


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We have the will to attack the Houthis a carrier strike group's been there over a year. B-2 bombers are parked at Diego Garcia right now.

The problem isn't will.

It's means.

Airstrikes take hours to plan.

A battleship in harbor fires in minutes.

Tomahawk missiles were supposed to cover this gap but it takes weeks for a destroyer or sub to reload.
Pretty sad, really. Our best weapons for this type of battle seem to be sitting around as 80 year old museums.


It could be done, as Reagan did. Or, we could build a modern one armored to an extent it would be useful against the crap the Houthi's have to toss out.
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nortex97 said:

This would take some time and money but is a hilarious idea to consider/pontificate; Iowa class battleships reactivated for this mission?

FWIW, the USS New Jersey guy is a great YouTuber.


the Littoral Combat Ship was supposed to have rail guns which could fire artillery

what about our destroyers?
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LMCane said:

nortex97 said:

This would take some time and money but is a hilarious idea to consider/pontificate; Iowa class battleships reactivated for this mission?

FWIW, the USS New Jersey guy is a great YouTuber.


the Littoral Combat Ship was supposed to have rail guns which could fire artillery

what about our destroyers?
The Zumwalt Class was supposed to replace the battleships for shore bombardment, but their 155mm "Advanced Gun System" is useless because in our government's infinite wisdom, they decided to cancel the ammunition for it due to the cost.

So we spent billions to develop a gun for a ship that we only built 3 of, due to the cost, and then cancel the only ammunition that those new guns can fire. So now the Zumwalts are worthless for their original purpose.

And the Navy's railgun program has been canceled as well.
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PCC_80 said:

So when do the courts step in to halt this bombing of terrorists ? ? ?

When does Congress step in to declare war on Yemen?
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The zumwalt/LCS/rail gun stuff has all been a protracted running joke.

And the Fremm derivatives will be equally as useless as the above vs. Houthi's. A thoroughly armored battleship (or at least a modern 'heavy cruiser') type craft is what works against sand pirates like this, imho. Want to fire at cargo ships (or our ships) from near the shoreline (10-20Km)? Be prepared for a salvo of 16-18 inch shells in return within 2 minutes.

We have the ability and funds to do it. We just may (still) not have the leadership/will.
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The navy is learning what the Air Force learned in the 1960's: guns are useful because they are cheap and not everything requires or deserves a missile.

Most of our ships still sport a 5 inch gun, plus a scattering of 3 inch guns. It seems like we might want to invest in useful guns more for moderate to closer range work.


They did get some projectile technology from the rail gon messd that should allow an increase in velocity (better range / accuracy) using conventional propellant in conventional guns with new ammunition types. It was a giant waste of money for an immature tech. We need perhaps something to replace the 5" gun conventionally and it would be best to use something with crossover potential with the existing 155m land based platforms.
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MouthBQ98 said:

The navy is learning what the Air Force learned in the 1960's: guns are useful because they are cheap and not everything requires or deserves a missile.

Most of our ships still sport a 5 inch gun, plus a scattering of 3 inch guns. It seems like we might want to invest in useful guns more for moderate to closer range work.
with drones technology the way it's going, getting in closer might not be a good option or you need to be prepared to lose some ships
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Good point. As long as the opposition lacks first rate jamming technology, a floating hangar full of drones might be more effective if they can outrange counterfire.
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