Tomorrow Trump meets with the new PM of Canada who is a raging globalist shill hating anything to do with liberty. And what happens the day before this meeting goes down? The Premier of Alberta announces that Province will not try to shoot down a referendum on Alberta's secession from Canada.
https://justthenews.com/world/canada/carney-trump-meeting-alberta-leader-vows-honor-succession-movement-if-it-meets

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"We are well aware that there is large and growing number of Albertans that have lost hope in Alberta having a free and prosperous future as a part of Canada," Smith said. "Many of these Albertans are organizing petitions to trigger a citizen initiated referendum, as I mentioned earlier. The vast majority of these individuals are not fringe voices to be marginalized or vilified - they are loyal Albertans.

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Makes the "Canada as 51st state" joke have a whole new meaning.

I know quite a few Albertans that would gladly join.

I would swap them out in a heartbeat for citizens of :CA,CO,CT,
DE,HI,IL,MD,MA,MI,MN,NJ,NM,NY,OR and WA. Wow, what a depressing list.
The Marxist Media/Educational Complex and the DNCCP have been effective because we have taken our eye off the ball the last 50 years. ESPECIALLY after the U.S.S.R fell. I think as a country we thought we had won the war against communism and we don't have to worry about communism anymore. THAT WAS A HUGE MISTAKE. THE DANGER TO OUR COUNTRY AND THE WEST DRAMATICALLY INCREASED AFTER WE WON THE COLD WAR !!!!!

Alberta leaving, either independent or as a state, basically wrecks Canada. No East West travel without significant concessions from Ottawa. Saskatchewan and Manitoba quickly looking for the exits as well. Quebec maybe too. With BC essentially cut off they would be in a rough spot economically. Carney has a very, very fine line to walk and a fairly thin majority to boot. Reducing the carbon tax, the net zero plans, turning back the $20B in transfer payments from Alberta that go primarily to Ontario and Quebec will be... difficult. As will concessions to Trump on the border, immigration, China and drug enforcement. To top it off Carney is and considers himself European, not Canadian. Lots of land mines. I genuinely don't think he is up to the moment.

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I know quite a few Albertans that would gladly join.

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It'll never happen but hopefully wakes up or changes the current Canadian government in some positive way.

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I would swap them out in a heartbeat for citizens of :CA,CO,CT,
DE,HI,IL,MD,MA,MI,MN,NJ,NM,NY,OR and WA. Wow, what a depressing list.
The Marxist Media/Educational Complex and the DNCCP have been effective because we have taken our eye off the ball the last 50 years. ESPECIALLY after the U.S.S.R fell. I think as a country we thought we had won the war against communism and we don't have to worry about communism anymore. THAT WAS A HUGE MISTAKE. THE DANGER TO OUR COUNTRY AND THE WEST DRAMATICALLY INCREASED AFTER WE WON THE COLD WAR !!!!!

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We didn't realize the greater danger was among us.

Pichael Thompson said:

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Would Alberta be a real conservative?


Or would they be a ****** conservative like Alaska?

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Alberta will be like Montana and Wyoming.

Bulldog73 said:

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Tomorrow Trump meets with the new PM of Canada who is a raging globalist shill hating anything to do with liberty. And what happens the day before this meeting goes down? The Premier of Alberta announces that Province will not try to shoot down a referendum on Alberta's secession from Canada.
https://justthenews.com/world/canada/carney-trump-meeting-alberta-leader-vows-honor-succession-movement-if-it-meets

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"We are well aware that there is large and growing number of Albertans that have lost hope in Alberta having a free and prosperous future as a part of Canada," Smith said. "Many of these Albertans are organizing petitions to trigger a citizen initiated referendum, as I mentioned earlier. The vast majority of these individuals are not fringe voices to be marginalized or vilified - they are loyal Albertans.

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Makes the "Canada as 51st state" joke have a whole new meaning.

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Just met a dude in the airport in Midland on Friday. Said the whole western side of Canada wants out. They're tired of being held down by stupid policies, and paying huge amounts of taxes that all go to support eastern Canada.

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Pichael Thompson said:

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Would Alberta be a real conservative?


Or would they be a ****** conservative like Alaska?

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Alberta will be like Montana and Wyoming.

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The Jackson Hole part of Wyoming or the Cheyenne part of Wyoming?

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Bulldog73 said:

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Tomorrow Trump meets with the new PM of Canada who is a raging globalist shill hating anything to do with liberty. And what happens the day before this meeting goes down? The Premier of Alberta announces that Province will not try to shoot down a referendum on Alberta's secession from Canada.
https://justthenews.com/world/canada/carney-trump-meeting-alberta-leader-vows-honor-succession-movement-if-it-meets

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"We are well aware that there is large and growing number of Albertans that have lost hope in Alberta having a free and prosperous future as a part of Canada," Smith said. "Many of these Albertans are organizing petitions to trigger a citizen initiated referendum, as I mentioned earlier. The vast majority of these individuals are not fringe voices to be marginalized or vilified - they are loyal Albertans.

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Makes the "Canada as 51st state" joke have a whole new meaning.

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Just met a dude in the airport in Midland on Friday. Said the whole western side of Canada wants out. They're tired of being held down by stupid policies, and paying huge amounts of taxes that all go to support eastern Canada.

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I would be shocked if BC wants out. Maybe the rural parts want out, but Vancouver is a very international city similar to Seattle. I think they like their big government in that city.

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But the whole eastern side knows they can't survive without the west. And Canadian law requires a constitutional amendment for a province to leave. I don't think that's in the cards any time soon

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All it takes is for the US to recognize Alberta's independence and put an Embassy there. De facto Independence beats de jure independence.

Canada without Alberta is like China without rice. It ceases to exist. My wife is from Nova Scotia, if that province didn't get transfer payments, from Albert (Canada's Robin Hood tax system), they would be a third world country.

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Woods Ag said:

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Bulldog73 said:

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Tomorrow Trump meets with the new PM of Canada who is a raging globalist shill hating anything to do with liberty. And what happens the day before this meeting goes down? The Premier of Alberta announces that Province will not try to shoot down a referendum on Alberta's secession from Canada.
https://justthenews.com/world/canada/carney-trump-meeting-alberta-leader-vows-honor-succession-movement-if-it-meets

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"We are well aware that there is large and growing number of Albertans that have lost hope in Alberta having a free and prosperous future as a part of Canada," Smith said. "Many of these Albertans are organizing petitions to trigger a citizen initiated referendum, as I mentioned earlier. The vast majority of these individuals are not fringe voices to be marginalized or vilified - they are loyal Albertans.

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Makes the "Canada as 51st state" joke have a whole new meaning.

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Just met a dude in the airport in Midland on Friday. Said the whole western side of Canada wants out. They're tired of being held down by stupid policies, and paying huge amounts of taxes that all go to support eastern Canada.

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I would be shocked if BC wants out. Maybe the rural parts want out, but Vancouver is a very international city similar to Seattle. I think they like their big government in that city.

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My company is half Canadian. The management folks in Ontario are just what you'd think. The operations folks in Alberta hate the East. Tell Vancouver they can go to Seattle and the rest of BC would be a welcome addition.

A bunch of uppity city dwellers from Toronto and Ottawa have been voting repeatedly to take away Alberta's hunter's rifles, banning sports shooting, banning pistols...because Toronto has a gun violence problem. Canada won't even allow Olympians to train for pistol shooting competitions anymore. Gun control has gotten that ridiculous.

At the same time they've done that, they want to wreck the Alberta economy by destroying the fossil fuel industry.

I don't see Alberta actually passing this measure but if polling gets anywhere close to winning it will put some pressure on the national government.

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Bro, what's wrong with you?

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What's wrong with what he said?

I think he is right! After the fall of the Soviet Union, we became very complacent about the dangers of communism.

We now have people in Congress advocating for communist ideas. This would never have happened in the 80s.

While there may be less threat of a nuclear war, now that the Soviet Union fell, the danger of socialism creeping into America is much higher now!

I don't really care about trade surpluses as much as I care about free trade. The fact that Canada, Mexico, China, hell, the entire world has tariffs on American products is what ticks me off. We've never had fair trade. I don't mind third world countries having tariffs to generate income to better their people, as long as it's used to truly better their people. But, second and first world countries need to drop tariffs.

And Carney can go F himself...