infinity ag said:

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This guy, a former H1B tells you how the H1B scam works.
Education for naive foolish Americans who think we are hiring "the best and brightest".
We got played for 30 years. Our futures and our kid's futures sold to worthless people.

Also, read the comments.

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infinity ag said:

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This guy, a former H1B tells you how the H1B scam works.
Education for naive foolish Americans who think we are hiring "the best and brightest".
We got played for 30 years. Our futures and our kid's futures sold to worthless people.

Also, read the comments.

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ShaggySLC said:

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infinity ag said:

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This guy, a former H1B tells you how the H1B scam works.
Education for naive foolish Americans who think we are hiring "the best and brightest".
We got played for 30 years. Our futures and our kid's futures sold to worthless people.

Also, read the comments.

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They're not Americans and hate Americans. Scamming Americans and America for decades.

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Urban Ag said:

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I have explained this on F16 for years now and no one seems to really care.

The H1B is a ****ing scam and ****ing American workers.

It's also a huge gateway to pregnancy tourism.

SHUT IT DOWN

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Gigem_94 said:

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Synopsis? That's over 45 min and I have to get back to work.

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The discussion, hosted by G. Sat on InFocus, explores the complexities and alleged abuses of the H-1B visa program with guest Tanul Takur, an independent journalist and former H-1B worker. Below is a summary of the key points:

Origins and Purpose of the H-1B Program:

The H-1B visa program, established by the Immigration Act of 1990, aims to address a perceived STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering, Mathematics) shortage in the U.S. by allowing skilled foreign workers to fill specialized roles.

Takur argues the program was founded on a flawed 1986 National Science Foundation study, which falsely projected a significant STEM worker shortage by 2006. This "scam" narrative, debunked by 1992, still influenced the program's creation.


Alleged Abuses of the H-1B Program:

Prevailing Wage Loopholes: The program allows employers to pay H-1B workers below median salaries due to flawed wage tier structures (set by the 2004 Act), enabling legal underpayment. Employers can select lower wage surveys, undercutting American workers and exploiting H-1B workers.
DI Consultancies (Body Shops): Indian IT consultancies, often called "body shops," are accused of systemic fraud, including fabricating resumes with fake experience, using proxy interviews (where someone else answers for the candidate), and providing "on-job support" to help underqualified workers survive in roles at major U.S. companies (e.g., Amazon, Google, Bank of America).
Exploitation of H-1B Workers: H-1B workers are often "enslaved" by consultancies that control their visas, limiting their ability to complain or change jobs. Underpayment can range from $30-$70/hour, equating to $60,000-$140,000 annually, and long green card queues (10-20 years) further trap workers.
Impact on American Workers: American IT workers face job displacement, often being forced to train their H-1B replacements under threat of losing severance or being blackballed. Notable cases include Southern California Edison (2015) and Disney, where mass layoffs preceded H-1B hiring.


Trump's Executive Order (2025):

President Trump introduced a $100,000 one-time fee for new H-1B visa applications after September 21, 2025, applicable only to new applicants outside the U.S., not renewals or those already in the country.
Takur argues this measure is insufficient to curb abuses, calling it "mildly punitive." The fee is negligible for large corporations, and loopholes like the L-1 visa (with no wage or cap restrictions) allow companies to bypass H-1B limitations.


Broader Implications:

Indian Workers: Many H-1B workers, despite exploitation, prefer U.S. opportunities over limited prospects in India, highlighting systemic issues in India's job market. Takur notes an "entitled" mindset among some workers who view the U.S. as their rightful home, despite the temporary nature of the visa.
American Workers: Displaced workers face economic, psychological, and emotional tolls, with stories like Kevin Flanigan's 2003 suicide underscoring the human cost. Takur emphasizes that American IT workers are not lazy or unskilled, countering stereotypes.
Corporate Beneficiaries: Both U.S. tech giants and Indian outsourcing firms (e.g., TCS, Infosys) exploit the program's loopholes, with the former influencing legislation and the latter engaging in fraudulent practices. Takur calls this a "moral blot" on both nations.


Critique of the Program's Design:

The H-1B program is meant for the "best and brightest," but Takur estimates 75% of current H-1B workers do not meet this standard, performing ordinary work due to systemic flaws.

The program benefits corporations over workers, creating a cycle of exploitation for both H-1B and American workers, who Takur believes should unite against corporate greed rather than be divided by xenophobia.

Future Outlook:

Takur predicts minimal change due to the executive order's limited scope. Companies may shift to L-1 visas or continue exploiting existing loopholes. Geopolitical tensions and corporate lobbying will likely maintain the status quo.
The rise of AI and other forces may influence future business practices, but Takur sees governments adapting to corporate interests rather than reforming the system.


Takur's Personal Perspective:

As a former H-1B worker, Takur empathizes with exploited workers but criticizes the program's structure. His book, Wild Wild East: Exiled Americans, Enslaved Indians and the Systemic Abuse of the H1B Program, set for release in November 2025, details these issues based on his eight-year investigation.

In conclusion, Takur portrays the H-1B program as a deeply flawed system that exploits both foreign and American workers while benefiting corporations. Trump's executive order is seen as a weak response to a complex, decades-long issue rooted in legal loopholes and corporate influence.

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Trump's H-1B Changes Won't Work

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Charpie said:

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No dual language option? That sucks

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Hidden Ridge Apts in Irving TX is listed as a work location for many H1B roles.

Please investigate pic.twitter.com/FkrLNWEQRj

— newyorker093 (@mangolassi93) September 27, 2025

chris1515 said:

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How many of those companies are shell companies that exist just to place consultants with larger corporations so they aren't directly having to navigate the H1B process?

"If" there's some fraud involved, well it was some independent consulting company that provided plausible deniability…and if any penalties were to ever be assessed (I'm guessing that highly unlikely)…well that shell company doesn't have any assets anyway. Just shut it down and start another one.

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javajaws said:

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There is no "foolproof" process - especially when big tech gets their lobbying groups to write all the laws for them.

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WHOA!
TCS laid off 12,000 people this year. Then received approval for 5,505 H-1B visas... second-most of any company.

Now they’re under U.S. Senate scrutiny.

October 10: Deadline to respond.

Here’s what’s actually happening - and the companies the Senate is questioning ---… pic.twitter.com/vJK34W1aKi

— Amanda Goodall (@thejobchick) October 2, 2025

U.S. to H-1B workers:

"Fly to India for your visa renewal."

"Only your home country. No exceptions."

"Oh, appointment cancelled."

"New date? Maybe summer."

"Good luck."

— Atal Agarwal 💜🚐🌍 (@atalovesyou) December 9, 2025