Louisiana governor trashing Scott Woodward

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https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/46773515/gov-jeff-landry-critical-ad-scott-woodward-amid-lsu-shakeup

No, I can tell you right now Scott Woodward is not selecting our next coach... We are not going down a failed path. And I want to tell you something: This is a pattern... The guy that's here now that wrote that contract cost Texas A&M 70-some million dollars. Right now, we've got a $53 million liability. We are not doing that again... We're gonna make sure that he's compensated properly, and we're gonna put metrics on it because I'm tired of rewarding failure in this country and then leaving the taxpayers to foot the bill."

I don't typically care about politicians' thoughts on sports (or vice versa) but he's absolutely right here. Allowing idiots to saddle schools with these huge bills needs to stop.
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You missed the best part where he suggested they let Trump pick the next coach since he loves winners.
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Owlagdad
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Wonder if the governor is worried about those athletic scholars who can't read or write?
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Deputy Travis Junior said:

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/46773515/gov-jeff-landry-critical-ad-scott-woodward-amid-lsu-shakeup

No, I can tell you right now Scott Woodward is not selecting our next coach... We are not going down a failed path. And I want to tell you something: This is a pattern... The guy that's here now that wrote that contract cost Texas A&M 70-some million dollars. Right now, we've got a $53 million liability. We are not doing that again... We're gonna make sure that he's compensated properly, and we're gonna put metrics on it because I'm tired of rewarding failure in this country and then leaving the taxpayers to foot the bill."

I don't typically care about politicians' thoughts on sports (or vice versa) but he's absolutely right here. Allowing idiots to saddle athletic departments and private donors with these huge bills needs to stop.

FIFY.
L$U is in an atypical spot because they don't have a university president at the moment, so the governor is in charge of picking the next coach. That being said, they would do best to keep their mouths shut during this process, and do the hiring quietly like normal schools.

If I'm Woodward, I'd be updating my resume and have a foot out the door. Being told as the AD that you won't be involved in all with the new hire does not bode well for his long term job security.

I don't know how you get away from these contracts for top tier programs, the market more or less demands it. Incentive based contracts seem more equitable to everyone.
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The guy that's here now that wrote that contract cost Texas A&M 70-some million dollars


That was not Woodward. It was Bjork extension. (Not the singer)

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While I appreciate and agree with Landry's comment, he has turned this entire situation into a massive **** show. Which is good for us!
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Owlagdad said:

Wonder if the governor is worried about those athletic scholars who can't read or write?

None of that never happened!
- voters who can't read or write
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Im Gipper said:

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The guy that's here now that wrote that contract cost Texas A&M 70-some million dollars


That was not Woodward. It was Bjork extension. (Not the singer)

Bjork the singer would have hired some Greenpeace nut.
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Esteban du Plantier said:

You missed the best part where he suggested they let Trump pick the next coach since he loves winners.

If Trump gets into sports he needs to buy the Cowboys to restore wins.
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There is nothing quite like going to rival's house, kicking their teeth in, celebrating their obliteration in their emptied stadium and then watching the athletic and political structure of that rival and even the state enter a period of panic and confusion as a result.

Has to be a moment of complete satisfaction to run through Louisiana like Patton to Bastogne and leave the enemy in a total mess.

I think the governor is right casting a cynical eye to these coaching contracts, especially the failure money implicit in the buyout clauses negotiated for decades now. Problem is a public announcement against it severely limits your scope of opportunity in relation to the pool of available coaches. Might be better able to accomplish reform in negotiation behind the scenes rather than telling absolute truth at a press conference.

This realm belongs to Mr. James Sexton. Governor Landry is about to find out what it is like to run into a man who controls the fortunes of both the outgoing and the incoming personnel asset.




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Deputy Travis Junior said:

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/46773515/gov-jeff-landry-critical-ad-scott-woodward-amid-lsu-shakeup

No, I can tell you right now Scott Woodward is not selecting our next coach... We are not going down a failed path. And I want to tell you something: This is a pattern... The guy that's here now that wrote that contract cost Texas A&M 70-some million dollars. Right now, we've got a $53 million liability. We are not doing that again... We're gonna make sure that he's compensated properly, and we're gonna put metrics on it because I'm tired of rewarding failure in this country and then leaving the taxpayers to foot the bill."

I don't typically care about politicians' thoughts on sports (or vice versa) but he's absolutely right here. Allowing idiots to saddle schools with these huge bills needs to stop.

Woodard is the reason we gave that contract. Him and Jimbo big buddies reacted like he was interested in Jimbo and we gave him the huge extension. He never wanted him it was a scam or gamesmenship if you want to call it that. No doubt Sexton who represents them both was very happy.
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Bjork signed the extension.
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Im Gipper said:

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The guy that's here now that wrote that contract cost Texas A&M 70-some million dollars


That was not Woodward. It was Bjork extension. (Not the singer)

Woodward agreed to the initial contract that was fully guaranteed with no mitigation requirement or offset for future employment. Bjork just extended and did a raise under the contractual framework that already existed because Woodward tried to hire Jimbo at LSU. It is 95% Woodward's fault.
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HTownAg98 said:

Bjork signed the extension.

He has some accountability also, but Woodward set the model with the original 10 year $75 million guaranteed contract.
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Athletic Directors should not be allowed to negotiate or directly hire Coaches that share an agent.

This is something that actually needs to change.
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He gone.

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OutKick's Trey Wallace reports that the school and Woodward finalized an agreement to part ways on Thursday night. Sources told Wallace that Woodward will be paid the full amount owed from his buyout, which will be $6.4 million.

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MemphisAg1 said:

HTownAg98 said:

Bjork signed the extension.

He has some accountability also, but Woodward set the model with the original 10 year $75 million guaranteed contract.


A literally no one on here thought it was a bad thing in 2017 when he did that. And if Jimbo had been fired from that original contract in 2023 the buyout would have $30 million, not $75 million. Ross Bjork more than doubled the liability to A&M. That is not on Woodward.
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Would love to see contracts purely result based. Something like
5yrs guaranteed contract @ $700k/win
Buyout is remaining years left x 50-75% prior year earnings.
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fightingfarmer09 said:

Athletic Directors should not be allowed to negotiate or directly hire Coaches that share an agent.

This is something that actually needs to change.


Agreed. It's just another example of the massive conflict of interest that exists in college football. The other one is the entire structure and governance of refs. That whole thing needs to be burned to the ground and rebooted.
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We should all appreciate Elko's contract. For now. If he continues to win out, you will likely find us right back in the game of long-term, guaranteed contracts.

And I'm sure this board will suddenly change its tune and be ok with it...until he starts losing and we are not.
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I may not have said anything here at the time, but all of these coaching contracts we see these days are absurd, that one included.
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YouBet said:

fightingfarmer09 said:

Athletic Directors should not be allowed to negotiate or directly hire Coaches that share an agent.

This is something that actually needs to change.


Agreed. It's just another example of the massive conflict of interest that exists in college football. The other one is the entire structure and governance of refs. That whole thing needs to be burned to the ground and rebooted.


we are on the politics board so most on here are clueless to just how spot on these posts are
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HTownAg98 said:

Bjork signed the extension.

Coming off a 10 win season and an Orange Bowl win. And with the AD who brought Jimbo to A&M now fishing to get him to go somewhere else.

Any AD would have made the same move.
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HoustonAg2106 said:

MemphisAg1 said:

HTownAg98 said:

Bjork signed the extension.

He has some accountability also, but Woodward set the model with the original 10 year $75 million guaranteed contract.


A literally no one on here thought it was a bad thing in 2017 when he did that. And if Jimbo had been fired from that original contract in 2023 the buyout would have $30 million, not $75 million. Ross Bjork more than doubled the liability to A&M. That is not on Woodward.

The reason Bjork gave the extension was because Woodward was coming hard at Jimbo from LSU and we had to give Jimbo an extension or he would've gone to a new fat contract with Woodward/LSU.

So it's still Woodward's fault; his freewheeling spending trying to get Jimbo to A&M (successful), trying to get Jimbo to LSU (unsuccessful), and trying to get Kelly to LSU (successful) led to the ridiculous situations at A&M and LSU.
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HoustonAg2106 said:

MemphisAg1 said:

HTownAg98 said:

Bjork signed the extension.

He has some accountability also, but Woodward set the model with the original 10 year $75 million guaranteed contract.


A literally no one on here thought it was a bad thing in 2017 when he did that. And if Jimbo had been fired from that original contract in 2023 the buyout would have $30 million, not $75 million. Ross Bjork more than doubled the liability to A&M. That is not on Woodward.

... but it was the wrong thing. It set the model. To your point, when Bjork renewed literally no one on here thought it was a bad thing in 2021 following the very successful 2020 season.

But time has a way of proving whether things are good or bad. The judgment is in for Woodward... he screwed up royally at A&M and LSU. Hence, he's being fired.

Bjork doubled down on the stupidity and left A&M before he surely would have been fired also.

They're both knuckleheads for sponsoring large contracts of guaranteed money with no link to performance.
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Bjork tried to hire failed coach Mark Stoops before the BMD's intervened and overruled him. Imagine having him as coach right now and not Elko.

He then failed upwards to Ohio State.

After you factor that, he's more than capable of being as bad as Woodward.

Let's all agree they both suck and move on.
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YouBet said:

Let's all agree they both suck and move on.

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the governor commenting on the football coaching search while his state is a **** hole is embarrassing. i have no doubt he doesn't realize it but he should.
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MemphisAg1 said:

HoustonAg2106 said:

MemphisAg1 said:

HTownAg98 said:

Bjork signed the extension.

He has some accountability also, but Woodward set the model with the original 10 year $75 million guaranteed contract.


A literally no one on here thought it was a bad thing in 2017 when he did that. And if Jimbo had been fired from that original contract in 2023 the buyout would have $30 million, not $75 million. Ross Bjork more than doubled the liability to A&M. That is not on Woodward.

... but it was the wrong thing. It set the model. To your point, when Bjork renewed literally no one on here thought it was a bad thing in 2021 following the very successful 2020 season.

But time has a way of proving whether things are good or bad. The judgment is in for Woodward... he screwed up royally at A&M and LSU. Hence, he's being fired.

Bjork doubled down on the stupidity and left A&M before he surely would have been fired also.

They're both knuckleheads for sponsoring large contracts of guaranteed money with no link to performance.


Totally incorrect. I, among others, were against an extension off a season that was nothing more than an illusion with so many teams just mailing it in. (I knew in 2019 Jimbo wasn't, and wasn't going to, work(ing) out). But, absent that, there were a substantial number of people soon after terms of the extension came out that started doing the math. When Jimbo began to struggle, the extension was indeed questioned, then criticized.

Even those that had been pro-Jimbo up until that point began to pot bang in early 2021 when we barely beat Colorado, and lost to Ark and MissSt. The Alabama win was a placebo for a few weeks but finishing the season with 2 SEC losses put everyone in a foul mood. About the only ones who were defending Jimbo and the contract were those who were so emotionally invested in him or had previously supported him and felt they couldn't change positions at that point.

The whole thing happened a little faster than what you're letting on.
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American Hardwood said:

I may not have said anything here at the time, but all of these coaching contracts we see these days are absurd, that one included.

You should have been here when Jackie Sherrill was hired at A&M for $250,000/year in 1982.

You would have thought we'd hired Dr. Fauci after he wiped out the entire Beagle breed by doing medical experiments on them (don't get upset, Fauci did plenty of experiments on Beagles).

Honestly, every professor in the country had quotes in the papers, magazines, and publications, on the severity of culture if a college football coach was making $250K/year and they were only making approximately $40k/year and up at the time.

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"Not doing that again" indeed!


I'm Gipper
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MemphisAg1 said:

HoustonAg2106 said:

MemphisAg1 said:

HTownAg98 said:

Bjork signed the extension.

He has some accountability also, but Woodward set the model with the original 10 year $75 million guaranteed contract.


A literally no one on here thought it was a bad thing in 2017 when he did that. And if Jimbo had been fired from that original contract in 2023 the buyout would have $30 million, not $75 million. Ross Bjork more than doubled the liability to A&M. That is not on Woodward.

... but it was the wrong thing. It set the model. To your point, when Bjork renewed literally no one on here thought it was a bad thing in 2021 following the very successful 2020 season.
Your memory sucks.
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Sandra Smith asked Landry about the hire just now. He seems to be all in on Lane and laughing.

Sandra asked about the money, controversy, leaving before end of season. His response, "don't hate the player, hate the game."

I would have expected no less an answer from a Louisiana politician.
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all those poor kids at the childrens hospitals gonna have to survive on just 2 bowls of slop a week now
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