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StrykerAg said:

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Tom Fox said:

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mickeyrig06sq3 said:

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To save others some time: Afghanistan, Burma, Chad, Republic of the Congo, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Haiti, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Yemen, Burundi, Cuba, Laos, Sierra Leone, Togo, Turkmenistan, and Venezuela.

Full document: PM-602-0192-PendingApplicationsHighRiskCountries-20251202.pdf

Reference for the country list: Proclamation 10949Restricting the Entry of Foreign Nationals To Protect the United States From Foreign Terrorists and Other National Security and Public Safety Threats | The American Presidency Project

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we shouldn't be taking people from any of those anyway. Like ever.

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I was recently deployed to the Horn of Africa and one of my soldiers on that deployment was born in Burundi and raised in DRC when his family fled. Awesome dude and one of the best soldiers I have had the pleasure of leading. The locals were much more friendly to us with him around. He decided to stay over there for extra tours since it was good money, and command loves that he speaks Swahili. He just got back and got his Sergeant stripes so he continues to make me proud.

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One of my best employees, on the factory floor, is from Congo. Speaks/reads/writes 7 languages. Most Americans have a hard time with 1. I'll take him over welfare tards, all day, every day.

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Yep! My dude also spoke at least 5 languages. I couldn't believe it. But he said people in the refugee camps spoke all kinds of languages so people learned each other's languages to be able to communicate

Ellis Wyatt said:

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K

There are great people all over the world. Let them improve their own countries. Tom Fox is right.

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So being born in a shthole means you have to stay there your whole life? Should those of us with European ancestry go to Europe since our forefathers should have never come to America, but instead made their own countries better?

Afghanistan, Burma, Chad, Republic of the Congo, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Haiti, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Yemen, Burundi, Cuba, Laos, Sierra Leone, Togo, Turkmenistan, and Venezuela.

I think the United States of America can get along without the contributions of people from these hell holes.

StrykerAg said:

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So being born in a shthole means you have to stay there your whole life?

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Yes

Remember - we do not immigrate people, we emigrate cultures.

mickeyrig06sq3 said:

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To save others some time: Afghanistan, Burma, Chad, Republic of the Congo, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Haiti, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Yemen, Burundi, Cuba, Laos, Sierra Leone, Togo, Turkmenistan, and Venezuela.

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I'd say this is a good list for starters.

87IE said:

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There are great people all over the world. Let them improve their own countries. Tom Fox is right.

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So being born in a shthole means you have to stay there your whole life? Should those of us with European ancestry go to Europe since our forefathers should have never come to America, but instead made their own countries better?

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No, but being born in a ****hole doesn't mean you automatically get to come to the U.S.

Were you, with your European ancestry, born here? If so then you get to stay. When your ancestors came here I'm betting they weren't, as a whole, leaches on society.

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Really? So I guess Elon Musk has to go back? No exceptions, right?

13 of these nations have a national IQ lower than the level the IS Army will accept you. None has an IQ over 90. The low is Equitorial Guinea at 59... mentally ******ed .

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There are great people all over the world. Let them improve their own countries. Tom Fox is right.

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So being born in a shthole means you have to stay there your whole life? Should those of us with European ancestry go to Europe since our forefathers should have never come to America, but instead made their own countries better?

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Last I checked, my German and Irish/Welsh anscestors that immigrated here came on a boat with little to nothing and walked onto the shores of the US and were given nothing other than an opportunity to go out and make something of themselves and their lives.

They also learned to fit in and did not demand that the people already here bend to their cultures, language and way of life to appease them. They learned english, they learned how to function in our society over here, they learned new customs and became Americans.

Are there good folks from those countries on the list? Sure, there are good people everywhere. But since we have imported the dregs of society from those countries for the last 15 years now and see what they are and what they want to do - too bad. We don't need any more pieces of sht that come here and demand we speak their language and bow to their customs. Look at Dearborn, Minneapolis and now NYC for prime examples of why you don't import 3rd world trash.

Good start. Next step would be add all countries to the list. I'm not particularly enthusiastic about the idea that certain countries of origin should be an automatic qualifier for immigration. Same goes for being a disqualifier, there are people in those countries that would be great Americans.

I think the test should be individual and can you add value rather than be a net reduction of value. That level of specific underwriting though has to start with the gates being shut, so to speak, in the first place.

No, you really need to think long and hard about allow much Muslim immigration. Its just where it goes. Look at Turkey's stumble.

Second, get English set as a national language. Its a simple way to set the cultural expectation that used to be unnecessary to spell out.

Poor Kahn.

StrykerAg said:

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There are great people all over the world. Let them improve their own countries. Tom Fox is right.

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So being born in a shthole means you have to stay there your whole life? Should those of us with European ancestry go to Europe since our forefathers should have never come to America, but instead made their own countries better?

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My forefather was Irish and became a slave for 5 years in exchange for passage to America. Is that what these immigrants are doing?

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No, but being born in a ****hole doesn't mean you automatically get to come to the U.S.

Were you, with your European ancestry, born here? If so then you get to stay. When your ancestors came here I'm betting they weren't, as a whole, leaches on society.

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Really? So I guess Elon Musk has to go back? No exceptions, right?

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South Africa isn't on the list. We are still making it possible for white farmers to escape.

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There are great people all over the world. Let them improve their own countries. Tom Fox is right.

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So being born in a shthole means you have to stay there your whole life? Should those of us with European ancestry go to Europe since our forefathers should have never come to America, but instead made their own countries better?

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No, but being born in a ****hole doesn't mean you automatically get to come to the U.S.

Were you, with your European ancestry, born here? If so then you get to stay. When your ancestors came here I'm betting they weren't, as a whole, leaches on society.

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Really? So I guess Elon Musk has to go back? No exceptions, right?

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I'd gladly send Elon back if we could send the 10's of millions of other 3rd worlders with him. Sorry, Elon, but it's a net benefit to the US. I'm sure he'd agree.

Also, Elon's home country isn't on the list.

We need a decade-long pause in immigration to get the current cluster-f#@k cleaned out. Get rid of as many of the takers, grifters, and non-assimilators as possible, assimilate those who genuinely want to be here 'cause 'Merica, and reset everything WRT requirements for immigration. If we do not, we will not recognize America by 2045. There's a reason immigration was paused in the 1930's.

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There are great people all over the world. Let them improve their own countries. Tom Fox is right.

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So being born in a shthole means you have to stay there your whole life? Should those of us with European ancestry go to Europe since our forefathers should have never come to America, but instead made their own countries better?

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No, but being born in a ****hole doesn't mean you automatically get to come to the U.S.

Were you, with your European ancestry, born here? If so then you get to stay. When your ancestors came here I'm betting they weren't, as a whole, leaches on society.

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Really? So I guess Elon Musk has to go back? No exceptions, right?

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Why would we make a naturalized US Citizen go back?

We need an across the board immigration pause. The only exceptions need to be personally approved by the President himself, which should limit the amount of fake geniuses and economic refugees to only those who are extreme cases.

I have a Nigerian doctor client and the dude cannot seem to comply with local laws on zoning or anything. Great client, but not such a good immigrant.

StrykerAg said:

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Tom Fox said:

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mickeyrig06sq3 said:

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To save others some time: Afghanistan, Burma, Chad, Republic of the Congo, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Haiti, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Yemen, Burundi, Cuba, Laos, Sierra Leone, Togo, Turkmenistan, and Venezuela.

Full document: PM-602-0192-PendingApplicationsHighRiskCountries-20251202.pdf

Reference for the country list: Proclamation 10949Restricting the Entry of Foreign Nationals To Protect the United States From Foreign Terrorists and Other National Security and Public Safety Threats | The American Presidency Project

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we shouldn't be taking people from any of those anyway. Like ever.

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I was recently deployed to the Horn of Africa and one of my soldiers on that deployment was born in Burundi and raised in DRC when his family fled. Awesome dude and one of the best soldiers I have had the pleasure of leading. The locals were much more friendly to us with him around. He decided to stay over there for extra tours since it was good money, and command loves that he speaks Swahili. He just got back and got his Sergeant stripes so he continues to make me proud.

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Sounds like he is in the right place making a difference where he is at.

Imagine what he could do for them.

StrykerAg said:

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There are great people all over the world. Let them improve their own countries. Tom Fox is right.

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So being born in a shthole means you have to stay there your whole life? Should those of us with European ancestry go to Europe since our forefathers should have never come to America, but instead made their own countries better?

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Just thinking about the Germans who helped us defeat Germany.

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Good start. Next step would be add all countries to the list. I'm not particularly enthusiastic about the idea that certain countries of origin should be an automatic qualifier for immigration. Same goes for being a disqualifier, there are people in those countries that would be great Americans.

I think the test should be individual and can you add value rather than be a net reduction of value. That level of specific underwriting though has to start with the gates being shut, so to speak, in the first place.

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Don't make fairness a priority when righting a ship. You can always resume immigration later, and take nations off the list. Get things under control at the moment. That doesn't mean leading with a sense of sportsmanship which has little to do with survival.

mickeyrig06sq3 said:

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To save others some time: Afghanistan, Burma, Chad, Republic of the Congo, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Haiti, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Yemen, Burundi, Cuba, Laos, Sierra Leone, Togo, Turkmenistan, and Venezuela.

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Hopefully the ban on Cubans can fix the dancer problem at Baby Dolls in Dallas.

Went there recently with a HS buddy and damn, you better hablo some Español.

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Sims said:

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Good start. Next step would be add all countries to the list. I'm not particularly enthusiastic about the idea that certain countries of origin should be an automatic qualifier for immigration. Same goes for being a disqualifier, there are people in those countries that would be great Americans.

I think the test should be individual and can you add value rather than be a net reduction of value. That level of specific underwriting though has to start with the gates being shut, so to speak, in the first place.

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Don't make fairness a priority when righting a ship. You can always resume immigration later, and take nations off the list. Get things under control at the moment. That doesn't mean leading with a sense of sportsmanship which has little to do with survival.

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I agree, I don't want it to be fair...that's a matter of perspective anyway. I want immigration to enrich the USA.

I just think country of origin is the wrong metric.

At least the liberal media has coordinated their talking points…