RogerFurlong said:

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He's a funny comedian. I couldn't care less about his political views.

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This is where I am at.

Yea, his politics have always been off to me. I appreciate that he didn't cave in to the transgender jokes, especially given how prevalent trans cancel culture was at the time. However, other than that, I haven't really connected with most of the politics he incorporates into his routines. That said, I can put that aside and still enjoy his comedic work. He remains one of my all-time favorite comedians.

I think it would be a funny bit to contrast Charlie Kirk in a room full of OF models, versus MLK in a room full of sex workers back then. Tons of bits that could land the other way, if it was really about humor and not political correctness.

Ill have to watch the entire special for context, but from that limited clip it seems like he was more contrasting what it takes to have a "voice" nowadays versus what it was when MLK was around, and the absurdity of it was the joke.

And a decent point.

Here's an idea that will be highly controversial. You could just not watch him.

What does "behaved like Charlie" mean?

How did Charlie behave? I never saw him do anything I'd consider immoral.

No issue with it. I like them both.

BTKAG97 said:

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What does "behaved like Charlie" mean?

How did Charlie behave? I never saw him do anything I'd consider immoral.

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Dave was basically saying you silly white folks shouldnt be comparing Charlie to our hero MLK. The funny punchline being the social media self promoting we see in modern activism. Although, Charlie wasnt really the best example of that shameless self promotion....I dont think I ever saw him say "hit the like and subscribe button". He did do tons of off internet fundraising events tho.

BTKAG97 said:

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What does "behaved like Charlie" mean?

How did Charlie behave? I never saw him do anything I'd consider immoral.

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Behaved opposite of MLK I guess

The only problem is that idiots will now believe we were saying that Kirk was our MLK.

Maybe somebody said that, but I never heard it.

RogerFurlong said:

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He's a funny comedian. I couldn't care less about his political views.

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I don't like Willie Nelson's politics either.

Jugstore Cowboy said:

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The only problem is that idiots will now believe we were saying that Kirk was our MLK.

Maybe somebody said that, but I never heard it.

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Anna Paulina Luna did the same. So some fringe people, but a Google search would show you this.

Dr. King lived an honorable public life, but a wretched private life.

Wild watching comedians like chappelle and bill burr becoming competently disconnected from society over time.

RogerFurlong said:

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He's a funny comedian. I couldn't care less about his political views.

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Sadly, in today's distrust with main stream media people are looking to unqualified comedians like chappelle, Tim Dillon, Andrew Schultz, Theo Von, etc for their political analysis. Just because you don't care doesn't mean it's not a problem. Trump and Vance both sat down with some of these people leading up to the last election. They have bearing on society, unfortunately.

FobTies said:

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I think it would be a funny bit to contrast Charlie Kirk in a room full of OF models, versus MLK in a room full of sex workers back then. Tons of bits that could land the other way, if it was really about humor and not political correctness.

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Yes Dave Chappelle is politically correct. Mfn f16 . I swear

OP missed the point. Change my mind.

In the end Charlie behaved more like a saint than any modern figure in the last century. If you were to compare them by their public personas you could make an argument that both were two of the greatest voices for the advancement of Christian principles in recent memory.

But the way God judges is not the same as the way history does. Charlie, from what we know was a man who lived his faith both inside and outside of the public eye and by that measure he was a better man than MLK ever was. The problem here is that few in the black community have ever faced the other side, the non, public side, of MLK as a human being so in this, Chapelle is completely off base in his commentary.

Geminiv said:

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FobTies said:

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I think it would be a funny bit to contrast Charlie Kirk in a room full of OF models, versus MLK in a room full of sex workers back then. Tons of bits that could land the other way, if it was really about humor and not political correctness.

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Yes Dave Chappelle is politically correct. Mfn f16 . I swear

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94% of your posts are on Mfn f16.

Here's an idea that will be highly controversial. You could just not read Mfn f16. I swear.

Edit: not that I agree at all with the comment you're responding to, but if you're so incensed by Mfn f16...

MLK did some good for this country, but let's not act like he was some kind of saint. Not even close.

But then none of them are.

That's the thing.

Not FDR, not JFK, not Trump, not half the presidents we've ever had or public figures.
They're never or hardly never what people believe them to be.

Lots of Pollyannas out there over some of our historical figures.

No, I don't know his exact context here and I don't really care.

But anyone can be criticized, black, white, whatever.

Oddly, given the insanity of the Democrat party today, I almost believe MLK would be a Republican today.

FobTies said:

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Yes, Dave is a legendary comedian and there is some humor in contrasting activists back then versus today, with social media etc. That said, the bit was pretty sloppy in its framing- "imagine if MLK behaved like Charlie".

He should have followed with a bit about "imagine if Charlie behaved like MLK"...where Charlie is out preaching about Christianity then having adultruous orgies in private.

Why wouldnt Dave do the latter? Because he knows there is a double standard and it would almost certainly ruin his career. So he isnt really this no holds barred comedian he portrays.

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Thanks for this. I need to find the full standup. Probably one of the most accurate clips of media I've heard. Chappelle is spot on AND it's funny. Chappelle is probably one of my top 3 comedians because he makes me laugh...like REALLY laugh...not just a smirk or chuckle. Let's be clear that he is really making the joke about what it takes to be paid attention to now. Kirk, Shapiro, Maddow, Pakman....and just about any talking head I can rattle off have to make a living with the same technique message board blue star posters do....saying edgy things that rile people up. That's the joke.

Thanks for posting. Good stuff! Chappelle is awesome...don't f--- with the legend.

FobTies said:

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Shyting on Kirk is a "poltical view", while shyting on MLK is blasphemy. Thats really the issue here.

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Did you watch the whole thing? Of course a 60 year old black guy from Washington DC thinks mlk was more important. I don't listen to Dave because he's right about everything I listen to him because his view point is different than most people and that makes him funny.

Concerned Moderate Ag said:

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OP missed the point. Change my mind.

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No valid point was made by Dave. If MLK was alive today, he would absolutely have a self promoting social media platform. Maybe he would be on campuses refuting DEI racial preferencing, maybe he would be pushing Dem policy...who knows. He would adopt the same tools and standards of the day.

The humor was just comparing the two eras. Its funny to apply today's norms to the 60s. Dave attempted to make a point that MLK was a better or more ethical human martyr than Kirk.....but the historical facts unequivocally disprove that.

So Dave made no valid point, just a funny joke saying "like and subscribe" in a MLK voice.

What point do you think he made?

This Dave set was the worst by FAR

FobTies said:

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Concerned Moderate Ag said:

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OP missed the point. Change my mind.

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No valid point was made by Dave. If MLK was alive today, he would absolutely have a self promoting social media platform. Maybe he would be on campuses refuting DEI racial preferencing, maybe he would be pushing Dem policy...who knows. He would adopt the same tools and standards of the day.

The humor was just comparing the two eras. Its funny to apply today's norms to the 60s. Dave attempted to make a point that MLK was a better or more ethical human martyr than Kirk.....but the historical facts unequivocally disprove that.

So Dave made no valid point, just a funny joke saying "like and subscribe" in a MLK voice.

What point do you think he made?

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There is absolutely no doubt that MLK was a bigger figure than Charlie Kirk. I'm a Republican but honestly I'd never heard of Charlie Kirk before he was shot. And it's probably because I get my news mostly from television and not social media.

RogerFurlong said:

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He's a funny comedian. I couldn't care less about his political views.

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This.