Washington Professor right to mock Land Acknowledgement

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Silent For Too Long
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It's postively insane how anyone could defend what the university did, here.

https://reason.com/2025/12/22/the-9th-circuit-upholds-a-university-of-washington-professors-right-to-mock-land-acknowledgments/

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The 9th Circuit Upholds a University of Washington Professor's Right to Mock 'Land Acknowledgments'
The appeals court ruled that administrators violated Stuart Reges' First Amendment rights when they investigated and threatened to punish him for constitutionally protected speech.


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Stuart Reges, a critic of such "land acknowledgments" who had taught an introductory computer science course, CSE 143, in that school since 2004, responded with a syllabus statement mocking the concept: "I acknowledge that by the labor theory of property the Coast Salish people can claim historical ownership of almost none of the land currently occupied by the University of Washington." That parody resulted in an internal investigation, a reprimand, and threats of disciplinary action.




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Last year, U.S. District Judge John H. Chun ruled in favor of the defendants, concluding that their treatment of Reges was justified by concerns about the disruptive impact of his speech. That judgment relied on the U.S. Supreme Court's 1968 ruling in Pickering v. Board of Education, which held that the First Amendment requires "a balance between the interests of the teacher, as a citizen, in commenting upon matters of public concern and the interest of the State, as an employer, in promoting the efficiency of the public services it performs through its employees." Chun also narrowly construed the rule that Reges challenged, saying it was constitutional if understood as applying only to "conduct that resembles or is akin to discriminatory, harassing, or retaliatory conduct.



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On March 2, 2022, Balazinska launched an investigation of Reges for possible violations of the faculty code, university policy, and the school's collective bargaining agreement. When Reges again refused to desist, College of Engineering Dean Nancy Allbritton, who oversees the Allen School, convened a special faculty committee, which that October issued an oral report averring that Reges' statement had a "significant impact"
on the "morale of Native American students" and "their learning," describing "the level of disruption" as "extraordinary." As evidence of that disruption, the committee claimed one Native American student had taken a leave of absence while another had dropped out of the university.

The first student, Bress notes, was not even enrolled in Reges' course and "described other factors influencing the decision to take a leave of absence, including the lack of available tutoring services, the Allen School's focus on testing, and feeling 'used' after meeting with Balazinska to discuss Reges."
Bress adds that the university "could not explain whether this student's mental health problems began with or pre-dated Reges's speech." As for the student who supposedly had dropped out, "it appears undisputed that this student does not exist."


Read those bolded parts carefully. In an effort to support their agenda, they flagrantly made **** up.

What's even more insane is, the original judge and the dissenting appeals court judge, fully cognizant of the fact that university flagrantly made **** up, still sided with them.


We really, really, really need to start holding these radical agenda driven judges accountable.
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In the future, everyone will be a victim for 15 minutes.

Including, apparently, people who are make believe.
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"Land acknowledgements" are just the acknowledgement of the last people to (semi) occupy the land before the present people who now occupy the land. It ignores the people that occupied the land before them and so on.

If they had "land acknowledgements" in the middle east, it would go on and on for hours and hours. Where does one stop?
Ghost of Andrew Eaton
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"We stole your land but all you get in return is us acknowledging we stole it."

Performative BS at best.
If you say you hate the state of politics in this nation and you don't get involved in it, you obviously don't hate the state of politics in this nation.
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

"We stole your land but all you get in return is us acknowledging we stole it."

Performative BS at best.

Nobody steals land (except those commercials about home title theft). Land is conquered or occupied.

And the injuns have received more than equitable compensation in the decades since. Hell, many received just compensation at the time of ownership transfer.

The acknowledgment is unnecessary because they can just use Google Maps to confirm they no longer own the land.
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They paying property taxes on it? No? They don't "own" it then, hell they aren't even renting it from the .gov.
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When I saw University of Washington, I knew.
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annie88 said:

When I saw University of Washington, I knew.

Yep.

Same school that called Gregory "Pappy" Boyington a murderer for shooting down copious numbers of Jap aviators between the years 1942 and 1945.
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Was at a Christmas party few years back, some loud mouth liberal was talking about how America was stolen land. I casually entered the conversation and said, how can land be stolen, when the natives had home field advantage. Not the white mans fault the natives sucked at defending. Last time I was invited to that Christmas party.
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Psycho Bunny said:

Was at a Christmas party few years back, some loud mouth liberal was talking about how America was stolen land. I casually entered the conversation and said, how can land be stolen, when the natives had home field advantage. Not the white mans fault the natives sucked at defending. Last time I was invited to that Christmas party.


Sounds like a win-win for you.
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"This is stolen land that rightfully belongs to the Native Americans. To be clear, we have absolutely no intention of giving the land back or paying them for it. We just want to acknowledge that we feel really bad about what our distant ancestors did."
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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

annie88 said:

When I saw University of Washington, I knew.

Yep.

Same school that called Gregory "Pappy" Boyington a murderer for shooting down copious numbers of Jap aviators between the years 1942 and 1945.

Were those Japs provided due process? Cause lefties think those aviators deserved their day in court before being shot down.

What if Tokyo dad was trying to defect and bring secrets and sushi to the United States? How did we know he was even in the Japanese forces, he could have been supporting the fishing business.

Were the pilots not required to also ditch if they shot down a plane so they could search for and assist survivors?

Leftism is a disease that eliminates cognitive reasoning, logic and common sense.
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Psycho Bunny said:

Was at a Christmas party few years back, some loud mouth liberal was talking about how America was stolen land. I casually entered the conversation and said, how can land be stolen, when the natives had home field advantage. Not the white mans fault the natives sucked at defending. Last time I was invited to that Christmas party.

We needed more Psycho Bunny in the Ukraine from a Rationale (er Another) Perspective thread.
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What's funny is that land acknowledgements have become so obviously performative, that it ironically becomes more insulting than not doing it at all.
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FobTies said:

What's funny is that land acknowledgements have become so obviously performative, that it ironically becomes more insulting than not doing it at all.


Land acknowledgments are absurd but the number of people that do them are extremely small and probably dwindling. They are a distraction to much more important issues.
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CEOs of publicly traded natural resource companies do them. Meg O'Neil, new CEO for BP, did them all the time.
Logos Stick
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We acknowledge that we came in, took names, kicked rear and we now own the land. That should be the extent of any acknowledgement.

Just like those before us. They didn't evolve from primordial goo into humans on the land.

The court system is irrepairably broken. It's infested with liberals who have no morals.
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Logos Stick said:

We acknowledge that we came in, took names, kicked rear and we now own the land. That should be the extent of any acknowledgement.

Just like those before us. They didn't evolve from primordial goo into humans on the land.

The court system is irrepairably broken. It's infested with liberals who have no morals.


"We" didn't do *****
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Logos Stick said:

We acknowledge that we came in, took names, kicked rear and we now own the land. That should be the extent of any acknowledgement.

Just like those before us. They didn't evolve from primordial goo into humans on the land.

The court system is irrepairably broken. It's infested with liberals who have no morals.

Conquering the indigenous tribes has been required to ensure advancement of civilizations throughout the last millennia. In areas where this conquering has not been executed to the greatest extent we have enduring conflict. See Middle East.
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I for one am grateful our forefathers added racial diversity to the indigenous monoculture. Because diversity is our strength!
The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
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techno-ag said:

I for one am grateful our forefathers added racial diversity to the indigenous monoculture. Because diversity is our strength!


Probably the Spaniards deserve the most credit. They really got things kicked off back in the 1500's.
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"Chief Sitting Bull, the proposition that you were a peaceable people before the appearance of the white man is the most fanciful legend of all. You were killing each other for hundreds of moons before the first white stepped foot on this continent. You conquered those tribes, lusting for their game and their lands, just as we have now conquered you for no less noble a cause."
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Claude! said:

"Chief Sitting Bull, the proposition that you were a peaceable people before the appearance of the white man is the most fanciful legend of all. You were killing each other for hundreds of moons before the first white stepped foot on this continent. You conquered those tribes, lusting for their game and their lands, just as we have now conquered you for no less noble a cause."

Chief Sitting (in) Bull(****).

And yes, tribal societies always resort to raiding and pillaging one another. From language to religion to societal behaviors, this holds true. Tribal societies trend violent.
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torrid said:




God that's so ****ing cringe.
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doubledog said:

"Land acknowledgements" are just the acknowledgement of the last people to (semi) occupy the land before the present people who now occupy the land. It ignores the people that occupied the land before them and so on.

If they had "land acknowledgements" in the middle east, it would go on and on for hours and hours. Where does one stop?

If only the indians had a DHS / ICE to deport all of the immigrants, they might still be in charge.

That irony is, of course, lost on the left.
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Logos Stick said:

We acknowledge that we came in, took names, kicked rear and we now own the land. That should be the extent of any acknowledgement.

Just like those before us. They didn't evolve from primordial goo into humans on the land.

The court system is irrepairably broken. It's infested with liberals who have no morals.


It's more complicated than that and some tribes even sought protection from Spain against other tribes. The history would shock progressives
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