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Did you read the penalty section? I ask, because I did, and the penalty is a $25 fine but if you show up to court with the permit, it's a mandatory dismissal.

So yes, it's technically unlawful to not have your permit while you're carrying, but it's the same level of unlawful as driving without your driver's license on your person

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And irrelevant under the law. Zero points made on that. Whether he was legally carrying a concealed weapon with a permit or not does not matter a pig fart when he was doing other stuff against the law.

AND no way the officers knew that one way or another. In a split second, it was revealed he had a gun. That's an LEO attention getter. Did he reach for it? After it was discovered? TBH, not sure.

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Attention getter in any law enforcement encounter but ESPECIALLY for agents that have been threatened, spit on, had objects hurled at them all the while enduring hours upon hours of ear piercing rape whistles.

Like former Tennessee senator Fred Thompson said in The Hunt For Red October:

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just sad all around. rip pretti, he didn't deserve what happened to him.

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I am not sad, he was defending the deportation of illegals raping, assaulting, and murdering Americans. Its not a tragedy he is gone, he offered nothing.

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Statistically, I am more likely to be to be murdered by a citizen than an illegal (population adjusted). Our criminals are home grown.

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Irrelevant, even if true.
All crimes committed by illegal aliens would not occur if the previous administration had not opened our borders.

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Exactly, tell these citizens the stats ....they were more likely to be killed by an American, but an illegal killed them

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I updated my post to include data that refutes the trope that citizens commit more crimes than illegal aliens.
ETA : It may be the truth defies the trope illegal aliens commit less crime
SCAAP Data Suggest Illegal Aliens Commit Crime at a Much Higher Rate Than Citizens & Lawful Immigrants

• In fact, this report finds that in the states examined, illegal aliens are incarcerated up to five and a half times as frequently as citizens and legal immigrants.

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I'm not sure that a matter of fact guy like Homan could put up with what would have to be an idiotic conversation with Tampon Tim.

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Homan: I'm seeing bars in your future and a lot of orange. And your wife.

Walz: We are working at Orange Julius?

Homan: Okay if that is what you wish to call the prison cafeteria.

Walz: Noted. What do you want?

Homan: What I want for you is not important. What you are going to do is, got it?

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CNN just reported that Trump is removing Bovino and much of his agents from MSP starting tomorrow.

Sounds like TACOed once again. This will do nothing but embolden the Democrats and antifa.

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"Sounds like TACOed once again."

THIS :-(

Joey Jones brilliantly lays out the facts in the Minnesota shooting...just the facts, without the political BS.
If there's anybody else in the room when Pres Trump and Gov Walz meet...it should be Joey. pic.twitter.com/SHsbA9EtU2

— David Asman (@DavidAsmanfox) January 26, 2026

Gov. Tim Walz of Minnesota had his police using paintball guns to sh**t Minnesota residents if they broke curfew by being on their porches during the pandemic.

Walz used his police as Gestapo against innocent Americans.

Remember that next time he criticizes ICE. pic.twitter.com/tNjyOAlZ2T

— Paul A. Szypula 🇺🇸 (@Bubblebathgirl) May 19, 2025

This is why they are called the FAKE NEWS!

The media caught setting up anti-ICE liberal protesters as a display in their broadcast. pic.twitter.com/gIDvXszBsx

— Dr. Dawn Michael (@DawnsMission) January 26, 2026

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Did you read the penalty section? I ask, because I did, and the penalty is a $25 fine but if you show up to court with the permit, it's a mandatory dismissal.

So yes, it's technically unlawful to not have your permit while you're carrying, but it's the same level of unlawful as driving without your driver's license on your person

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And irrelevant under the law. Zero points made on that. Whether he was legally carrying a concealed weapon with a permit or not does not matter a pig fart when he was doing other stuff against the law.

AND no way the officers knew that one way or another. In a split second, it was revealed he had a gun. That's an LEO attention getter. Did he reach for it? After it was discovered? TBH, not sure.

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And just to add...speaking for myself, and those I personally know who carry on a regular basis, I actually almost feel an EXTRA sense of responsibility to be on my best behavior. I don't know a single adult who would legally carry and engage in hooliganism of any kind. There is something a little "sobering" about carrying a weapon like that, which I believe most sane and grounded people feel.

I would even say that I go even more out of my way to avoid confrontation and would be much less likely to hop into a fist fight or anything like that (much less with law enforcement), even if I felt it was warranted. Because the stakes are different.

I have done some pretty crazy and irresponsible things in my life, but would have never done anything like this guy did.

A gun gives you great power.

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Gov. Tim Walz of Minnesota had his police using paintball guns to sh**t Minnesota residents if they broke curfew by being on their porches during the pandemic.

Walz used his police as Gestapo against innocent Americans.

Remember that next time he criticizes ICE. pic.twitter.com/tNjyOAlZ2T

— Paul A. Szypula 🇺🇸 (@Bubblebathgirl) May 19, 2025

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Dictator is he. Do as I say, not as I do. Liberals are nothing but hypocrites.

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I am not sad, he was defending the deportation of illegals raping, assaulting, and murdering Americans. Its not a tragedy he is gone, he offered nothing.

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Statistically, I am more likely to be to be murdered by a citizen than an illegal (population adjusted). Our criminals are home grown.

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Irrelevant, even if true.
All crimes committed by illegal aliens would not occur if the previous administration had not opened our borders.

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Exactly, tell these citizens the stats ....they were more likely to be killed by an American, but an illegal killed them

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I updated my post to include data that refutes the trope that citizens commit more crimes than illegal aliens.
ETA : It may be the truth defies the trope illegal aliens commit less crime
SCAAP Data Suggest Illegal Aliens Commit Crime at a Much Higher Rate Than Citizens & Lawful Immigrants

• In fact, this report finds that in the states examined, illegal aliens are incarcerated up to five and a half times as frequently as citizens and legal immigrants.

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Well it makes sense given many Latin American countries emptied their prisons during the great invasion. Guess where they went.

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REMINDER: Threatening to assault, murder or interfere with a federal agent is a FELONY.

Logan Murfin of Tulsa, OK, has been charged with ten counts after posting on social media that federal agents need to be gunned down, shot & executed.

Welcome to the find out stage, Logan. pic.twitter.com/U1NiLR87DV

— U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (@ICEgov) December 12, 2025

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License/No license... Does this really have any bearing on what happened in this instance?

NO.

So having a license or not is a RED HERRING and REALLY not worth arguing over as it has ZERO bearing on what happened.

Nobody but him knew he had a license, and even if he didn't it doesn't change what happened.

Maybe that is what y'all want to spend all your time arguing about. But to me, it is just silly.

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Correct.
It is irrelevant @ this time. It may or may not become relevant later in examining his intent. Most likely he was ignorant of the law, forgot the law or just plain didn't care.

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I'm still waiting for anyone to back to their claims on what this ICU nurse was doing to deserve this. Any evidence whatsoever of interference, hostile intent.


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Plenty of people have, you just choose to continue to ignore them. Trying to direct traffic to block and impede law enforcement is interfering with an active investigation. Doing it while carrying a gun is pure insanity.

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No. They haven't. At all.

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What's your denomination?

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Probably head deacon of Talarico's church. Wears purple vestments.

Nick Sorter doubles down on his fake news and get called out by the Assistant Secretary Dept. of Homeland Security.

My understanding is that the "Commander At Large" title for Bovino was only created in October 2025 to cover his expanded responsibilities.

It's possible that they can restructure without "relieving of duties."

I don't believe that Commander At Large was an official title, simply an alternate title for a new public facing effort. And honestly Bovino needs to be down on the border since he's the Head of CBP. Tom Homan put a foot in Walt's ass if he gets cute with him.

Chief Gregory Bovino has NOT been relieved of his duties. As @PressSec stated from the White House podium, @CMDROpAtLargeCA is a key part of the President’s team and a great American. https://t.co/qj3E9B8uzg

— Tricia McLaughlin (@TriciaOhio) January 27, 2026

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REMINDER: Threatening to assault, murder or interfere with a federal agent is a FELONY.

Logan Murfin of Tulsa, OK, has been charged with ten counts after posting on social media that federal agents need to be gunned down, shot & executed.

Welcome to the find out stage, Logan. pic.twitter.com/U1NiLR87DV

— U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (@ICEgov) December 12, 2025

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Maybe if he spent a little less time making online threats against federal law enforcement officers he would have time to take down his Christmas tree and decorations.

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This is a a critical step in the replacement of a quarterback. The quarterback who is clearly headed to the bench expresses his respect for the backup and says he “welcomes the competition” because it will “make the team better” https://t.co/IudLEFfp7o

— Three Year Letterman (@3YearLetterman) January 26, 2026

(Cue The Doors "This is the end")

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Striving for those DEI honors points.

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Pretty much where I am on this

The things I and many simultaneously believe to be true:

- I wish Renee Good and Alex Pretti were still alive. They were people made in God’s image whose lives had value, and their deaths are tragic

- I still am unclear about the true story surrounding Pretti’s killing

- I am…

— Allie Beth Stuckey (@conservmillen) January 26, 2026

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The things I and many simultaneously believe to be true:

- I wish Renee Good and Alex Pretti were still alive. They were people made in God's image whose lives had value, and their deaths are tragic

- I still am unclear about the true story surrounding Pretti's killing

- I am not sure DHS messaging on Pretti's death has been completely accurate or helpful

- The chaos that led to their deaths is in large part due to local law enforcement refusing keep the public from impeding ICE and local politicians stoking the flames by calling ICE "Gestapo"

- ICE and border patrol agents, by and large, do a good, compassionate job that is very difficult. Like any group - teachers, pastors, social workers, etc - there will be those who are corrupt or bad at their jobs, and it's ok to acknowledge that if apparent

- ICE's job is necessary and good. Removing illegal aliens, including those who have committed heinous crimes against American children, should be able to be done without conflict. This is normal business that has been conducted in similar ways under both R and D administrations. The chaos is not caused by Trump. It is caused by those who hate Trump

- America, like every country, has the right and responsibility to defend its borders, protect citizenship, and enforce immigration law. This is necessary for national sovereignty. This is not "kidnapping," and it's not just violent criminals who need to be deported.

- Lots of overlap between those decrying ICE and those who: never said a word about immigration enforcement under Biden & Obama, have never expressed concern about the lives lost because of illegal immigration, support abortion, or accused Charlie Kirk of racism in the days following his murder. I am 100% uninterested in what these people have to say about morality or justice.

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This is where I am, as well.

All these posts pointing at the two shootings as reasons why ICE shouldn't be there are idiotic. Bad things happen when you attack law enforcement or resist arrest. People will get hurt. Especially when you are specifically targeting law enforcement.

Address each situation with an investigation and determine the best path forward. However, you don't just throw your hands up and say, "oh well! I guess we should just leave, now." ICE is in Minnesota legally. ICE is exercising their legal duty. The American people voted for them to deport illegals. Just because leftists decided to turn Minneapolis into a warzone does not convince me we should stop. If anything, I say send more feds. Shut these riots and insurrectionists down.

If more insurrectionists get shot because they are actively impeding federal law enforcement from doing their jobs, then so be it. **** happens when you **** around like you're at war. With most of these videos I see, I'm actually amazed at the restraint of these ICE officers. They definitely handle these situations better than I would if someone attacked me.

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Once again, Adam Carolla nailed the entire Minneapolis strategy when he described liberals and chaos.

I am more convinced than ever that in the end, this is the liberal play...

I agree https://t.co/XGrKJ5OqYv

— Adam Carolla (@adamcarolla) December 8, 2025

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Yep it's blatantly clear now and people are figuring it out thankfully - like the media lies.

Creating chaos is the goal.

2017-2021 chaos, protests, violence, etc.
2021-2025 meh the only thing was Palestine/Israel so not even US related directly
2025 - chaos, protests, violence part 2

It's boring

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This is a a critical step in the replacement of a quarterback. The quarterback who is clearly headed to the bench expresses his respect for the backup and says he “welcomes the competition” because it will “make the team better” https://t.co/IudLEFfp7o

— Three Year Letterman (@3YearLetterman) January 26, 2026

(Cue The Doors "This is the end")

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There goes the Daily Wire…

https://www.dailywire.com/news/inside-the-trump-administrations-growing-divide-over-mass-deportation-raids?topStoryPosition=undefined&author=Jennie+Taer&category=Original&elementPosition=0&row=1&rowHeadline=Top+Stories&rowType=Top+Stories&title=Inside+The+Trump+Administration's+Growing+Divide+Over+Mass+Deportation+Raids

I think former police officer Brandon Tatum provided the best explanation of the shooting.

Instagram

Would it be in poor taste to refer to the recent incidents in Minneapolis as "the Pretti-Good shootings"?

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I mentioned it before, someone needs to find out if there's any actual connection to Vance Luther Boelter and Waltz other than his appointment. All this scandal involving healthcare in Minnesota and this was the only Dem that voted against the very thing that enabled the Somalis to scam the taxpayers of billions of dollars

Walz is the head of a crime organization…

Did he order a hit?

The only Dem to vote to stop healthcare for illegals in Minnesota.

1 of 67.

Melissa Hortman.

The deciding vote. Then killed.

Almost like she knew it was coming.

Hell of a coincidence…pic.twitter.com/NFCRC9A7Q7

— C3 (@C_3C_3) January 26, 2026

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This crossed my mind the other day after everything started to come out with Waltz and his connection to fraud, fraud supported political organizations and encouraging "protesters". Maybe Boelters crazy letter to the FBI about Waltz directing the killings isn't so crazy after all..

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Hortman sounded fearful after voting to repeal healthcare for illegal aliens

Almost as if she knew that her base would become unhinged

She and her husband were tragically shot and killed. A targeted attack, IMHO per Gov. Walz. Boelter said Waltz ordered it. That's no defense for his actions so why else would he say that

Was her vote the motive?

This is not a coincidence

Nick Shirley “Melissa Hortman, she was offed. She was killed, and she had just started to come out and speak against illegal migrants. Do you think that was a setup? Well, it's interesting because the person who shot her was a former hire of Governor… pic.twitter.com/MiSr0PwyQT

— Wall Street Apes (@WallStreetApes) January 25, 2026

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Is that true the killer was a former Governor Walz hire?

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REMINDER: Threatening to assault, murder or interfere with a federal agent is a FELONY.

Logan Murfin of Tulsa, OK, has been charged with ten counts after posting on social media that federal agents need to be gunned down, shot & executed.

Welcome to the find out stage, Logan. pic.twitter.com/U1NiLR87DV

— U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (@ICEgov) December 12, 2025

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Check that guys hard drive

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It's likely not hard unless you are an adolescent boy dressed as a drag queen chihuahua. Just sayin…

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Would it be in poor taste to refer to the recent incidents in Minneapolis as "the Pretti-Good shootings"?

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It would be in just fine taste. Goes along with a side of desperation being served up by those thinking the Daily Wire is breaking news on Noem's firing.

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I mentioned it before, someone needs to find out if there's any actual connection to Vance Luther Boelter and Waltz other than his appointment. All this scandal involving healthcare in Minnesota and this was the only Dem that voted against the very thing that enabled the Somalis to scam the taxpayers of billions of dollars

Walz is the head of a crime organization…

Did he order a hit?

The only Dem to vote to stop healthcare for illegals in Minnesota.

1 of 67.

Melissa Hortman.

The deciding vote. Then killed.

Almost like she knew it was coming.

Hell of a coincidence…pic.twitter.com/NFCRC9A7Q7

— C3 (@C_3C_3) January 26, 2026

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This crossed my mind the other day after everything started to come out with Waltz and his connection to fraud, fraud supported political organizations and encouraging "protesters". Maybe Boelters crazy letter to the FBI about Waltz directing the killings isn't so crazy after all..

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Hortman sounded fearful after voting to repeal healthcare for illegal aliens

Almost as if she knew that her base would become unhinged

She and her husband were tragically shot and killed. A targeted attack, IMHO per Gov. Walz. Boelter said Waltz ordered it. That's no defense for his actions so why else would he say that

Was her vote the motive?

This is not a coincidence

Nick Shirley “Melissa Hortman, she was offed. She was killed, and she had just started to come out and speak against illegal migrants. Do you think that was a setup? Well, it's interesting because the person who shot her was a former hire of Governor… pic.twitter.com/MiSr0PwyQT

— Wall Street Apes (@WallStreetApes) January 25, 2026

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Is that true the killer was a former Governor Walz hire?

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https://rumble.com/v74v4t0-anti-ice-radicals-are-now-threatening-to-burn-ice-agents-families-alive.html


Anti-ICE Radicals Are Now Threatening to Burn ICE Agents' Families Alive

Ginning up outrage with "sources."

These "protesters" in Minnesota need to have their way of life totally destroyed!

Wow. Per @priscialva, DHS has suspended Gregory Bovino’s access to his social media accounts effective immediately. He spent yesterday responding to people who were criticizing him and raising questions about his unverified claims about Pretti.

— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) January 27, 2026