I read it as just the business jets (competitors to Gulfstream), not the commercial CRJs.

AtticusMatlock said:

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I read it as just the business jets (competitors to Gulfstream), not the commercial CRJs.

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He said in this social media post "we are hereby decertifying their Bombardier Global Express, and all Aircraft made in Canada..."

I beat I can get you to agree on one product to tariff. Trump needs to put a 2000% tariff on all whistles. Screw ICE protesters and referees. lol

The Unforgiven said:

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I beat I can get you to agree on one product to tariff. Trump needs to put a 2000% tariff on all whistles. Screw ICE protesters and referees. lol

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My comment wasn't even about the tariffs. It was about the threat to ground all Canada built aircraft in the US.

As for a tariff on whistles, makes it 200,000%.

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The Unforgiven said:

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I beat I can get you to agree on one product to tariff. Trump needs to put a 2000% tariff on all whistles. Screw ICE protesters and referees. lol

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My comment wasn't even about the tariffs. It was about the threat to ground all Canada built aircraft in the US.

As for a tariff on whistles, makes it 200,000%.

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What is the % of Canadian built aircraft in the US?

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Rapier108 said:

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The Unforgiven said:

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I beat I can get you to agree on one product to tariff. Trump needs to put a 2000% tariff on all whistles. Screw ICE protesters and referees. lol

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My comment wasn't even about the tariffs. It was about the threat to ground all Canada built aircraft in the US.

As for a tariff on whistles, makes it 200,000%.

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What is the % of Canadian built aircraft in the US?

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Perplexity thinks 14% on the commercial side and only 1-2% on the GA side.

It did say those numbers have been and continue to shrink.

Rapier108 said:

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The Unforgiven said:

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I beat I can get you to agree on one product to tariff. Trump needs to put a 2000% tariff on all whistles. Screw ICE protesters and referees. lol

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My comment wasn't even aboot the tariffs. It was aboot the threat to ground all Canada built aircraft in the US.

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FIFY

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AtticusMatlock said:

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I read it as just the business jets (competitors to Gulfstream), not the commercial CRJs.

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He said in this social media post "we are hereby decertifying their Bombardier Global Express, and all Aircraft made in Canada..."

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There are no more CRJs being built in Canada. Assembly of them ceased in 2020. So if he is only talking about not certifying newly built jets coming from Canada, this would not affect the airlines.

thank you

Only if he's talking about certifying new aircraft.

If he's talking about decertifying existing aircraft then you're talking about most regional airline aircraft currently flying in the United States. Delta, United, and American all use CRJ for their regional fleets. Would cripple the major airlines and cause chaos to travelers. Would effectively shut down air travel out of all but the major cities.

He is impulsive and sometimes naive to the effect of his own policies, but hopefully he's not this stupid.

CRJ's are a shrinking figure for the regionals (production stopped in 2020, Mitsubishi had bought that line), and the Brazilians are the only ones making a plane that complies with our union-airline idiotic scope clauses nowadays.

He's talking about new-builds only apparently (while running his mouth a bit):

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However, a White House official told Reuters that Trump was not suggesting decertifying Canadian-built planes currently in operation. U.S. airline officials told Reuters that FAA officials had made similar statements.

Data provider Cirium said there were 150 Global Express aircraft in service registered in the U.S., operated by 115 operators and 5,425 total aircraft of various types made in Canada in service registered in the U.S. including narrowbodies, regional jets and helicopters.

Montreal-based Bombardier (BBDb.TO) said it had taken note of Trump's post on social media and was in contact with the Canadian government. "We hope this is quickly resolved to avoid a significant impact to air traffic and the flying public," it said.

Airline officials said if the U.S. could decertify airplanes for economic reasons, it would give other countries a powerful weapon and could put the entire aviation system at risk.

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Bombardier has a big operation around Wichita too still I think, which nowadays is focused mostly on Defense work (they gave up on Learjets). CRJ's and A-220's would be impacted, but AA/DL etc. A-220's are completed in Alabama, which while absurd/stupid is a separate topic.

The Canadians have tried to be cute with their certification delay on Gulfstreams. FAFO time for them yet again.

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Trump said Canada has refused to certify the Gulfstream 500, 600, 700, and 800 jets. In April, the Federal Aviation Administration and the European Union Aviation Safety Agency certified the Gulfstream G800 jet. Transport Canada, which is responsible for Canadian certification, did not respond immediately to a request for comment.
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It does not appear the FAA has the legal authority to revoke certifications for planes based on economic reasons, as it can only do so for safety reasons under existing regulations. The FAA declined immediate comment.

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Meh, whatever, Gov. Carney needs to check with Xi as to how he wants him to handle this I guess.

It's so hotel corner chair to have to qualify your opinions like "i like this thing trump did BUT just to be clear I don't like other things he did". Grow a pair

The best thing about the whole tariff situation is that other countries know we're not their doormat anymore.

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He laid out exactly what they need to do in order to resolve the issue. Ball is in Canada's court.

Oh, and **** Canada

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Trump should give in immediately and as part of the deal cede Minnesota to Canada.

So holding nuanced views where some things he's done are good and some things are bad is now *******ry?

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Absolute insanity.

He is threatening to ground every CRJ aircraft in the US, which would cripple every regional carrier and take the rest of the US airline industry along with it.

This is Trump being a dick for no other reason than Canada is doing things he doesn't like.

That said, no way this wouldn't get blocked in a heartbeat by the courts, and rightfully so. The process to certify aircraft to fly in the US is complex and should never be controlled on a whim by any President.

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Not done on a whim. He's got TOP PEOPLE working on this. Every one of them with more knowledge on the complexity of this issue than you.

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Rapier108 said:

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Absolute insanity.

He is threatening to ground every CRJ aircraft in the US, which would cripple every regional carrier and take the rest of the US airline industry along with it.

This is Trump being a dick for no other reason than Canada is doing things he doesn't like.

That said, no way this wouldn't get blocked in a heartbeat by the courts, and rightfully so. The process to certify aircraft to fly in the US is complex and should never be controlled on a whim by any President.

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It' a bigger issue than that. Many countries use their "certification" and other non-tariff approaches to accomplish the same result of restricting US trade while acting like a nice guy, smiling to our face while they stab us in the back.

I've been a critic of other tariffs that were wildly irrelevant, but this is different. I'm glad he's taking it head on. The Canadians' BS back-door tactic to shut out US manufacturers needs to be aggressively confronted. Make it painful for them and bring them to the negotiating table to land on rules that are fair and balanced.

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Exactly. Cattle industry dealt with this for years following the Cow that Stole Christmas in 2003. For years, some over a decade, countries just labeled US beef unsafe to limit US beef exports. And it was completely hypocritical. Some of the countries, like Canada, banning US beef and a much worse Mad Cow problem than the US. US had one stinking case.

Unfortunately this is how the game is played and we have allowed other countries to play it while we tried to be nice.

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Only if he's talking about certifying new aircraft.

If he's talking about decertifying existing aircraft then you're talking about most regional airline aircraft currently flying in the United States. Delta, United, and American all use CRJ for their regional fleets. Would cripple the major airlines and cause chaos to travelers. Would effectively shut down air travel out of all but the major cities.

He is impulsive and sometimes naive to the effect of his own policies, but hopefully he's not this stupid.

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One of the tactics I have noticed about Trump is that if he perceives a problem, he throws a grenade into a room and then sees who reacts loudest. Then he goes and works a deal with that person. I think it saves him time trying to figure out who is in charge and who can get things done.

I read it as Bombardier business jets like the ones that keep crashing in icy weather. A Texan just died in one that crashed in Maine this week.

📍Maryland

Marlin Steel CEO Drew Greenblatt says President Trump's tariffs fueled success:

“We had our best year ever in 2025… they’re moaning in China, they’re going to be sad in Mexico, because we’re going to be building here in America… times are going to be good.” pic.twitter.com/anDychvwUc

— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) February 5, 2026

Well.... how about that! Trump puts a little heat on them -- and then all of a sudden -- Canada is able to certify US jets in just two weeks that had been delayed for years.

Very good Trump!

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WASHINGTON/MONTREAL, Feb 10 (Reuters) - The head of the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration said on Tuesday he expected Canada would announce it was certifying some Gulfstream business jets that had been delayed for years, resolving an issue highlighted by President Donald Trump.

"I think we've resolved the issues with Canada," FAA Administrator Bryan Bedford told reporters on Capitol Hill after a meeting with lawmakers. Bedford said he expected Canada would announce the certifications for the jets produced by the U.S. company later this week.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/canada-expected-announce-certification-gulfstream-232853761.html

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Rapier108 said:

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AtticusMatlock said:

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I read it as just the business jets (competitors to Gulfstream), not the commercial CRJs.

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He said in this social media post "we are hereby decertifying their Bombardier Global Express, and all Aircraft made in Canada..."

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There are no more CRJs being built in Canada. Assembly of them ceased in 2020. So if he is only talking about not certifying newly built jets coming from Canada, this would not affect the airlines.

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There are a **** ton of Bell helicopters being built in their Mirabel plant...

Bell may be an American company, but they do a LOT of work in Canada, too.

And last I checked, helicopters are aircraft.