Elon Musk had more extensive ties to Epstein than previously known, emails show

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https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jan/30/elon-musk-epstein-files-island-visits

After previous comments made by the man, this is not a good look.

Trump seems to have a history of employing people who have direct contact with Jeffery Epstien and actively engaged with him after his 2005 conviction.
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You won't be happy with the way this turns out.
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Can you please tell me how this will turn out?
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Bwahahaha. We got'em this time(9999 th time has to finally be right)
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Rockdoc said:

You won't be happy with the way this turns out.

I agree if it was that bad the Democrats would have leaked it during the first 100 days of Trumps 2nd administration.
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Sad Aggie Fan said:

Can you please tell me how this will turn out?


Sadly.
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You last paragraph is a bald faced lie.
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doubledog said:

Rockdoc said:

You won't be happy with the way this turns out.

I agree if it was that bad the Democrats would have leaked it during the first 100 days of Trumps 2nd administration.

Or the campaign..
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Logos Stick said:

You last paragraph is a bald faced lie.

THANK YOU for not saying 'bold'.
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Howard Lutnick,Secretary of Commerce (Current),"Social: Internal emails released in January 2026 show Epstein invited Lutnick to his private island for lunch in December 2012. Records indicate Lutnick's wife accepted, noting they would arrive via yacht. A follow-up email from Epstein to Lutnick read, ""Nice seeing you."""

Alexander Acosta,Secretary of Labor (20172019),"Legal/Professional: As U.S. Attorney for Southern Florida in 2008, Acosta oversaw and approved the controversial non-prosecution agreement that allowed Epstein to avoid federal charges for sex trafficking. This connection led to his resignation from the Cabinet in 2019."

William Barr,Attorney General (20192020),"Professional/Legacy: His father, Donald Barr, was the headmaster at the Dalton School who oversaw Epstein's hiring as a teacher in 1974. As AG, Bill Barr oversaw the DOJ and Bureau of Prisons at the time of Epstein's 2019 arrest and subsequent death in custody."

Robert F. Kennedy Jr.,Cabinet-level Official (Current),"Travel: Kennedy has publicly admitted to taking two flights on Epstein's private jet in the 1990s, stating one was for a fossil-hunting trip. He has since called for the full release of all Epstein-related documents."

Elon Musk,DOGE Associate/Advisor (Current),Social Inquiry: Emails released in 2026 showed Musk inquiring if Epstein was planning any parties. Records also show he was invited to visit Epstein's island but reportedly declined the invitation.
Steve Mnuchin,Secretary of the Treasury (20172021),"Social: Mnuchin's contact information was found in Epstein's ""Black Book,"" indicating a social or professional acquaintance within elite New York circles."

Wilbur Ross,Secretary of Commerce (20172021),"Social: Like Mnuchin, Ross appeared in Epstein's personal address book. Both were part of the social circuit Epstein frequented in Palm Beach and New York."

Steve Bannon,White House Chief Strategist (2017),"Social/Professional: Oversight Committee documents released in 2025 confirmed that Bannon had several email exchanges and meetings with Epstein, though the specific nature of their business remains a subject of inquiry."

Kevin Warsh,Federal Reserve Chair Nominee (Current),Incidental: Warsh's name appeared on a 2026 guest list for a Christmas gathering sent to Epstein by a publicist. It is currently unclear if Warsh had direct interaction with Epstein or was merely on a broad industry distribution list.
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If you can refute any of this please do. I would love to hear it and open to discussion.
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I absolutely agree. The democrats/Biden admin should have absolutely gone after them and been more transparent. If there are democrats that are incriminated in these files then they should face consequences. Hilary, Bill, and others.
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So Musk was invited to the island and declined?

That's your big "gotcha"?
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Show me where it actually says anyone did something illegal, or all this Epstein stuff is just noise. I get wanting to catch people that did horrible things. But just because some one knew Epstein or was at one of his properties does not mean that they actually did anything wrong.
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What is there to refute?

People sent him emails=/=Had sex with underage girls.
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Sad Aggie Fan said:

Howard Lutnick,Secretary of Commerce (Current),"Social: Internal emails released in January 2026 show Epstein invited Lutnick to his private island for lunch in December 2012. Records indicate Lutnick's wife accepted, noting they would arrive via yacht. A follow-up email from Epstein to Lutnick read, ""Nice seeing you."""

Alexander Acosta,Secretary of Labor (20172019),"Legal/Professional: As U.S. Attorney for Southern Florida in 2008, Acosta oversaw and approved the controversial non-prosecution agreement that allowed Epstein to avoid federal charges for sex trafficking. This connection led to his resignation from the Cabinet in 2019."

William Barr,Attorney General (20192020),"Professional/Legacy: His father, Donald Barr, was the headmaster at the Dalton School who oversaw Epstein's hiring as a teacher in 1974. As AG, Bill Barr oversaw the DOJ and Bureau of Prisons at the time of Epstein's 2019 arrest and subsequent death in custody."

Robert F. Kennedy Jr.,Cabinet-level Official (Current),"Travel: Kennedy has publicly admitted to taking two flights on Epstein's private jet in the 1990s, stating one was for a fossil-hunting trip. He has since called for the full release of all Epstein-related documents."

Elon Musk,DOGE Associate/Advisor (Current),Social Inquiry: Emails released in 2026 showed Musk inquiring if Epstein was planning any parties. Records also show he was invited to visit Epstein's island but reportedly declined the invitation.
Steve Mnuchin,Secretary of the Treasury (20172021),"Social: Mnuchin's contact information was found in Epstein's ""Black Book,"" indicating a social or professional acquaintance within elite New York circles."

Wilbur Ross,Secretary of Commerce (20172021),"Social: Like Mnuchin, Ross appeared in Epstein's personal address book. Both were part of the social circuit Epstein frequented in Palm Beach and New York."

Steve Bannon,White House Chief Strategist (2017),"Social/Professional: Oversight Committee documents released in 2025 confirmed that Bannon had several email exchanges and meetings with Epstein, though the specific nature of their business remains a subject of inquiry."

Kevin Warsh,Federal Reserve Chair Nominee (Current),Incidental: Warsh's name appeared on a 2026 guest list for a Christmas gathering sent to Epstein by a publicist. It is currently unclear if Warsh had direct interaction with Epstein or was merely on a broad industry distribution list.


Can you provide a similar list covering the Biden and Obama admins? To be fair and balanced and to form a proper analysis and to foster the open discussion you seek, please provide that information. Without it, this is just another sad Aggie troll.
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Sad Aggie Fan said:

I absolutely agree. The democrats/Biden admin should have absolutely gone after them and been more transparent. If there are democrats that are incriminated in these files then they should face consequences. Hilary, Bill, and others.



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Anyone who participated in illegal activity should be prosecuted.

Anyone who harmed children should be castrated and have a millstone hung around their neck and disposed of properly.


But all I see is a list of people who were loosely affiliated with Epstein. I don't know all of them but I am assuming by the TDS they are republicans or republican adjacent. If they are guilty of illegal activity, prosecute them.

Can OP say the same of democrats who I keeep seeing pictures of with Epstein and hoores?
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Copy & paste Reddit threads are the worst.

And The Guardian is one of the biggest, leftist rags on the planet. Using them as birdcage lining would be considered animal abuse.
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Epstein's entire goal was to buddy up to everyone with any sort of power, money, or influence in the United States. He was an obsessive networker. He made a point to try to meet everyone he could. His ultimate purpose is still unclear although it seems he was probably linked to Israeli and/or US intelligence.

The idea that every person he ever took a picture with, emailed, or even invited to his island was engaged in underage sex is preposterous. His island was not a giant sex dungeon. He certainly used sex and underage sex as a means to influence people but the idea that he did this with every person he interacted with is just absurd.
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I am agreeing with you. You realize this right?
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Sounds good.
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I absolutely can. However, if I do will that change anything about the information I previously provided? Do you think those people should be investigated or held accountable if prosecutiable evidence comes to light?
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Did you get this list from Reddit? I'm glad you're okay getting out of the echo chamber- this board can feel like it at times but at least counter points aren't deleted by mods here (or banned completely from the board).

I don't have time to counter all of your points and some have already summarized already above. It's faster to use Chat GPT address this than try to type it all out. (Even tho AI is compromised by using Reddit and Wikipedia as sources of "information")

Yes there are actual released documents and unsealed materials that verify parts of the claims in what you shared but with important context and limitations:

What is actually verified in released DOJ documents

1. A large cache of previously sealed Epstein-related documents was released by the U.S. Department of Justice on January 30, 2026. This is part of the Epstein Files Transparency Act disclosure, comprising millions of pages, thousands of photos, and videos from law enforcement files.

2. Emails and communications involving Epstein and prominent figures do appear in the released files. For example:
Howard Lutnick: Emails show an invitation and planning for a lunch at Epstein's private island in December 2012 contradicting prior public statements about avoiding Epstein.
Elon Musk: Newly released documents contain emails between Musk and Epstein about potential visits/parties, and Musk's responses about possibly going to the island (though Musk declined and did not go).
Kevin Warsh: His name appears on guest lists and communications in the released files.
Steve Bannon: Records include communications between Epstein and Bannon.

These are real references in the newly released DOJ materials but being included in Epstein's files does not inherently mean wrongdoing or criminal conduct; it may simply indicate that there was some contact or mention.

What is not directly verified or is mischaracterized

A. "Social/associate" labels vs. official wrongdoing
In the list you shared, some entries imply a type of association that isn't clearly supported as described:
The DOJ has not released evidence charging these individuals for criminal involvement.
Mention in a guest list, email, or contact record means the name appeared in investigative files not that someone was a "client", co-conspirator, or involved in Epstein's crimes.

B. Alexander Acosta's role is documented historically:
Acosta, as U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Florida in 2008, oversaw the controversial non-prosecution agreement for Epstein this is well-established but predates the 2026 document release. It was widely reported in 2019 and referred to in many news accounts. It isn't dependent on the January 2026 file release. (This is legal/historical background, not newly unsealed evidence.)

C. William Barr's father hiring Epstein and other legacy claims
This sort of biographical connection (e.g., who hired someone decades ago) was not part of the DOJ's January 2026 data release; those claims mix public biographical details with speculation. There's no indication the released Epstein files confirm Barr's hiring of Epstein in 1974. That's publicly known history, not necessarily part of the released DOJ files.

D. Some associations in your quoted list are likely from social media summaries, not directly from released documents
Reddit threads and other community posts circulating summaries of the files sometimes blend actual document references with interpretation, inference, or speculation. Those posts are not themselves primary sources.



How to think about this

Claim Type What's Verified?
Name appears in Epstein files Yes verified (e.g., Lutnick, Musk, Bannon, Warsh)
Documented invitation/communication Yes emails exist
Meaningful criminal involvement Not confirmed by documents presence accusation
Historical associations outside new files Partially true but separate (e.g., Acosta plea deal)




Bottom line

There are actual released documents from the January 2026 DOJ release that reference some of the people you listed and their interactions with Jeffrey Epstein. These include emails, guest lists, and communications that place names like Howard Lutnick, Elon Musk, Steve Bannon, and Kevin Warsh in Epstein's materials.

However:
Inclusion in the files does not equate to proof of criminal behavior.
Some of the details in the version of the list you shared may come from secondary social media summaries or extrapolations, not verbatim from the official documents.
Official context matters: the DOJ release contains both investigative materials and peripheral content; names appear for various reasons.
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Loosely affiliated? Alex Acosta approved a controversial plea deal granting immunity from all federal criminal charges to Epstein. Steve Bannon was filming a documentary with Epstein to help rehabilitate his image and was texting and calling him all the way up until the day he died.

All of these people spoke DIRECTLY to epstien and met with him AFTER he was a convicted pedophile
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Rapier108 said:

Copy & paste Reddit threads are the worst.

And The Guardian is one of the biggest, leftist rags on the planet. Using them as birdcage lining would be considered animal abuse.


Lol so ****ing true.

Pure marxist filth.
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I feel like yall are spending a lot of time defending politicians who were friends and in direct contact with a well known pedophile. Surprising for the "law and order" crowd I see on this board.
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Marxist is being against pedophiles?
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Sad Aggie Fan said:

Loosely affiliated? Alex Acosta approved a controversial plea deal granting immunity from all federal criminal charges to Epstein. Steve Bannon was filming a documentary with Epstein to help rehabilitate his image and was texting and calling him all the way up until the day he died.

All of these people spoke DIRECTLY to epstien and met with him AFTER he was a convicted pedophile


Have you read Acosta recent testimony, under oath, to Congress explaining the plea deal?

I will await your similar canvassing of Dem associates of Epstein.

And when you say people are defending pedos, who and what are you referring to? Everyone from the earliest days have called for all offenders to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

The pedo defender bit is old, its inaccurate, and frankly it diminishes the nature if actual crimes committed and certainly is not supportive of the victims and is certainly not about justice.
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What time of day do these talking points come out? Very canned.
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Sad Aggie Fan said:

I personally take issue with a pedophile collaborator that donated millions of dollars to our current administration for the ability to head a department that was responsible for removing oversight.

Do you also take issue with the entire Democrat party? Every one of them falls into one of three categories, and active pedo, a pedo enabler, or a wannabe pedo.
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Records also show he was invited to visit Epstein's island but reportedly declined the invitation.


Doesn't this prove he's not part of it?
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