Was Rosa Parks a left wing propagandist?

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Angry Jonathan Zaludek
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I have never heard of this narrative. Is it true?

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Angry Jonathan Zaludek said:

I have never heard of this narrative. Is it true?



Yep. I heard this long ago.
Sq 17
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I knew that there was a similar incident with a person and it was decided she was not going to be the face of the movement. Rosa definitely got arrested on purpose and the the black community was ready to mobilize around the incident.

Similarly Jackie Robinson was chosen to break the color line. Beyond his exceptional talent he had other qualities that led him to selected by people that wanted to end segregation in MLB.
When he was drafted by the Dodgers their management felt he was the player most likely to handle the pressure and garner public support that would bring about the end to the color line in MLB

The word you are looking for is agitator she got arrested on purpose and used the incident to focus attention on something she felt needed to be changed
ts5641
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Shouldn't surprise me but the commies have been miles ahead of conservatives in propaganda. Most people back then had no idea what was being orchestrated.
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I can think of nothing more "Conservative" than pushing this nation more towards upholding the idea of "…all men are created equal, and endowed by their creator…..".

In the same spirit as Thomas Jefferson.
Mega Lops
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This still slaps

ABattJudd
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This is nothing new. Homer Plessy, of Plessy v. Ferguson fame, was also part of an anti-segregation group that plotted his arrest as well. Plus, he looked white, but he had one black grandparent which made him black in the eyes of the state of Louisiana when it came to segregation purposes. Not only was the group he was a member of preplanning his arrest for the purposes of getting segregation in front of the courts, but the railroad company, and even the arresting officer were in on it. The railroads were losing money in Louisiana because of the separate car policy.

I want history to be taught accurately and when I teach about these incidents as we discuss the equal protection clause and its evolution in my government classes, I cover the true history. However, I have no problem with these specific actions, regardless of whatever other beliefs Rosa Parks or Homer Plessy may have held. Jim Crow laws were evil and I'm glad that people took action to end them.
"Well, if you can’t have a great season, at least ruin somebody else’s." - Olin Buchanan
Ellis Wyatt
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A video with no context? Have no idea and don't care. Not allowed here.
Kozmozag
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Yes and so was MLK. The media manipulation s you see everyday is the same as its always been.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

A video with no context? Have no idea and don't care. Not allowed here.


You're being pedantic. The subject line of the OP poses the specific question and further asks if there is truth to the videos implied thesis.

Quality independent commentary should not be based on a book report by the OP, but everyone's own review.
Rapier108
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Plenty of cases which eventually because major Supreme Court decisions were basically setups by leftwing activists. Just off the top of my head, and not counting anything already mentioned.

Roe v. Wade
Lawrence v. Texas
Brown v. Board of Education
Loving v. Virginia
Griswold v. Connecticut
Several cases involving prayers in schools, later going so far as to ban students from praying or reading the Bible.

Now, I'm not going to debate the merits of each one; that's another discussion.

The right finally learned to play the game with the most prominent case being Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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The new Houston Metro buses have a seat dedicated to her. Very first seat as you step onto the bus (would be like 1A on a plane). It's yellow leather with stitching that says "In memory of Rosa Parks." All the other seats are the standard blue cloth.

I almost puked the first time I saw it. Then I got pissed when I realized my tax dollars are paying for this crap.
Who?mikejones!
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I thought it was common knowledge thay park's actions were not organic but part of a larger activist plan.
nomad2007
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Soon people might find out that some of those arrested for sit-ins at restaurants didn't go there just to eat.
KingofHazor
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I'm not sure what the point is, other than adding some historical context.
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Angry Jonathan Zaludek said:

I have never heard of this narrative. Is it true?



Did he really close the video with 'I love black people?"
BonfireNerd04
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Rapier108 said:

Plenty of cases which eventually because major Supreme Court decisions were basically setups by leftwing activists. Just off the top of my head, and not counting anything already mentioned.

Roe v. Wade
Lawrence v. Texas
Brown v. Board of Education
Loving v. Virginia
Griswold v. Connecticut
Several cases involving prayers in schools, later going so far as to ban students from praying or reading the Bible.

Now, I'm not going to debate the merits of each one; that's another discussion.

The right finally learned to play the game with the most prominent case being Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization.

Yeah, social leftists loved the Supreme Court until the Republicans finally put an end to its judicial activism. Where would abortion or the LGBTQ agenda be without it?

Lawrence v. Texas was an interesting setup. An angry neighbor called 911 to report a shooting. The Harris County sheriff's deputies arrived, and didn't see a gunman, but did find two men having buttsex. So the deputies figured that they might as well arrest them for that. It was just a misdemeanor, but Lambda Legal decided to make it into a federal case.
Claude!
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It's not just a left wing thing. The plaintiffs in what became the Heller case were carefully vetted, for example. When your goal is to use the judiciary to make a landmark ruling, you want sympathetic, reliable plaintiffs who are difficult to demonize or rattle.
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Angry Jonathan Zaludek said:

I have never heard of this narrative. Is it true?



Yes. Trained at the Highlander Folk School for such activities.
TAMUallen
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Scripted actions that were not of her own invention. She was just the tool used to make it happen
CrackerJackAg
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Yes, this isn't new information. Been bull**** always.

I'm not saying change wasn't necessary. But have real ****ing heroes. Not lies.

Booker T Washington for example
Colonel Kurtz
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The NAACP recruited Parks and set the whole thing up. It was originally supposed to be a different woman named Claudette Colvin.
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Colonel Kurtz said:

The NAACP recruited Parks and set the whole thing up. It was originally supposed to be a different woman named Claudette Colvin.



She was already on an officer in the local NAACP chapter. I don't think there was a lot of recruitment required.
WestAustinAg
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Now do MLK
WestAustinAg
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And then do Watergate
Sq 17
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CrackerJackAg said:

Yes, this isn't new information. Been bull**** always.

I'm not saying change wasn't necessary. But have real ****ing heroes. Not lies.

Booker T Washington for example


She still took a risk getting arrested and becoming the face of the movement.
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Sq 17 said:

She still took a risk getting arrested and becoming the face of the movement.
basically a Pepsi ad

OldArmy71
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I don't understand the issue here.

I grew up in Louisiana in the 1950s.

I went to segregated schools. I remember sitting on the steps of my elementary school and watching black kids in a bus being transported to the black school across town.

I enjoyed the only public swimming pool in town, which was off-limits to blacks.

The pool was in the town park. The restrooms and drinking fountains were labelled WHITES and COLORED.

I went to the only movie in town nearly every Saturday. As I paid for my ticket, I noticed black kids my age paying for their tickets at a different window and climbing the stairs to the balcony.

Rosa Parks was chosen to receive the focus, but that doesn't change the reality that she was living the authentic life of a black woman in the Jim Crow south.



It was very heroic of her.
flown-the-coop
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There is actually a movie on the real Rosa Parks story.
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OldArmy71 said:

I don't understand the issue here.

I grew up in Louisiana in the 1950s.

I went to segregated schools. I remember sitting on the steps of my elementary school and watching black kids in a bus being transported to the black school across town.

I enjoyed the only public swimming pool in town, which was off-limits to blacks.

The pool was in the town park. The restrooms and drinking fountains were labelled WHITES and COLORED.

I went to the only movie in town nearly every Saturday. As I paid for my ticket, I noticed black kids my age paying for their tickets at a different window and climbing the stairs to the balcony.

Rosa Parks was chosen to receive the focus, but that doesn't change the reality that she was living the authentic life of a black woman in the Jim Crow south.



It was very heroic of her.



Multiple things can be true at the same time. The Selma bus policy and the culture enabling it was wrong. It can also be true that Rosa Parks was closer to an agitator than some innocent victim of circumstance.
Ellis Wyatt
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My bad. I thought it was a rule here.
OldArmy71
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You're describing her as an "agitator."

That's a word with negative connotations.

I remember, because I was there, our politicians describing the "outside agitators" coming into our peaceful Southern towns and disturbing our contented black folk.

Segregation was an immoral evil that blighted the lives of millions of people.

People who worked peacefully to end that evil should not be described by words with negative connotations.

Hey Zeus
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Social change usually involves some level of agitation. Most things don't change with simple, quiet acts. What's the incentive to change if there isn't pressure?
Claude!
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The world needs agitators sometimes. Sometimes they can do so peacefully and effect meaningful change, like Rosa Parks. Other times the agitation has to be a bit more muscular, like the Revolution.
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When I learned the true story, I wa much more impressed than I was with the false narrative of "she was tired and didn't feel like giving up her seat".

Whether she was a commie or not, the law was wrong.

The local NAACP wanted a test case to fight the law in court. A few months earlier, a young black girl had been arrested for the same "crime" of refusing to give up her seat. But she was loud and combative, and had a child out of wedlock.

Not going to be a sympathetic figure in 1955.

Parks worked for the NAACP, she was married, middle aged, had a job, was small and non-threatening, and had zero criminal record. So the focus would be on the law, not on whether she was "uppity" as she could have been labeled at the time. She quietly allowed herself to be arrested, on purpose, to test the law in court.

Exactly as planned.

I see nothing wrong with the initial incident. Well done, mission accomplished.

I see a lot wrong with the deification and gas lighting around the incident and the fables told about it.

I'm also disappointed that the NAACP let her retire in poverty and obscurity and a victim of later crimes.

I think I read that the founder of Godfather's Pizza took care of her in her old age, once he discovered her situation.
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