https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hegseth-bans-military-attending-princeton-columbia-other-elite-universities-wokeness-weakness

I doubt this holds up judicially.

the irony of course being that hegseth holds two degrees from princeton and harvard, and elite military conservatives will continue attending and sending their children to these schools despite public handwringing about wokeness and indoctrination

maverick2076 said:

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Tex100 said:

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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hegseth-bans-military-attending-princeton-columbia-other-elite-universities-wokeness-weakness

I doubt this holds up judicially.

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Why wouldn't it? He's not banning them from going on their own dime. He's ending military fellowships and such that are part of professional military education and paid for by the military.

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. Trump lost ivy's getting federal dollars before. That said, this is peanuts compared to their earlier hollering.

The droit should be abolished?

pinche gringo said:

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boulderaggie said:

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They don't teach, they infect.

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FIFY

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The scene in Zero Dark Thirty where she speaks to the CIA Director and he asks her why she thinks they recruit promising candidates out of high school vs college (she demurs an answer). This is why.

maverick2076 said:

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Tex100 said:

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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hegseth-bans-military-attending-princeton-columbia-other-elite-universities-wokeness-weakness

I doubt this holds up judicially.

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Why wouldn't it? He's not banning them from going on their own dime. He's ending military fellowships and such that are part of professional military education and paid for by the military.

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The commie hippies got exactly what they wanted after they burned down ROTC buildings on college campuses during the anti-Vietnam War period. It wasn't that long ago that ROTC returned without a welcome and plenty of protests to Ivy League schools. I don't see any legal problem with making a policy that is in harmony with what the leftist radicals claimed they have wanted all along.

Of course, they really want to infect military students with leftist elites thinking by socializing them among the old money left. Maybe he was always a leftist but I believe the Ivy club social circles is how you get retired four stars running Brookings and other globalist think tanks.

Old McDonald said:

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the irony of course being that hegseth holds two degrees from princeton and harvard, and elite military conservatives will continue attending and sending their children to these schools despite public handwringing about wokeness and indoctrination

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Then they are ignorant or just hoping their kids make it through without getting brainwashed and can then still leverage the elitist networking.

Old McDonald said:

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the irony of course being that hegseth holds two degrees from princeton and harvard, and elite military conservatives will continue attending and sending their children to these schools despite public handwringing about wokeness and indoctrination

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All is not lost in the Ivies, but there is nothing ironic here. I've worked on initiatives with Conservative alumni at Ivies and am still working on initiatives with them. I have many friends and acquaintances that both served in the military and have Ivy degrees. Much like A&M the difference between the institutions in the 1990s and early 00s through around 2010 is very different from around 2012 onward. It's all relative of course when it comes to A&M vs Ivies but the cultural shifts are the same direction.

The biggest difference among the Ancient Eight is Princeton. Princeton still had a very strong and potent conservative contingent within both faculty and student body as late at 2010-2012. They still exist today but the percentage is much smaller.

Why?

Because radical faculty and students in these institutions began to play hard ball in different ways around 2012. Old school liberals in these institutions have retired in droves over the last 20 years, and their replacements are not old school libs.

Conservative alumni from the 80s and 90s with very intelligent children began looking for their kids to go elsewhere. Thus the rise of northeast elite conservative families children applying to SEC schools and even schools like Liberty which would have been unheard of by Ivy Alums just 15 years ago.

With this shift comes a shift in values and beliefs about America and the military at these schools. Again, it's not that radicals haven't always been in these places with lots of power over the last 100 years. It's just that the more conservative and old school liberal contingency has started to rapidly disappear among faculty and administration.


So no, it's not ironic. The indoctrination going on in these institutions is very real and while I'm not a proponent of conservatives retreating from these institutions I have had a front row seat to families with acceptance letters and sports recruitment letters from the Ivies, choosing more conservative cultures in southern schools over the last ten years, even rejecting their kids going to their own Alma maters. It is happening at A&M as well.

Can't be a soldier and affiliate with the kkk, ariyan resistance, bloods, crips and other nefarious groups.

I'm happy to add Ivy League schools to the list.

We don't want to send folks to get degrees at

(Checks notes)

MIT…


Yea that sounds like a great idea…

Old McDonald said:

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the irony of course being that hegseth holds two degrees from princeton and harvard, and elite military conservatives will continue attending and sending their children to these schools despite public handwringing about wokeness and indoctrination

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William F. Buckley wrote "God and Man at Yale", too.

Tex100 said:

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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hegseth-bans-military-attending-princeton-columbia-other-elite-universities-wokeness-weakness

I doubt this holds up judicially.

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If this means we learn to live with misspellings (subject line), I'm ok with it!

lcraggie said:

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Liberals are a disease.

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They literally institutionalize insanity and call it "education". Honestly its nothing new. Low grade propaganda in new and expensive packaging.

TikiBarrel said:

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pinche gringo said:

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boulderaggie said:

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They don't teach, they infect.

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FIFY

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The scene in Zero Dark Thirty where she speaks to the CIA Director and he asks her why she thinks they recruit promising candidates out of high school vs college (she demurs an answer). This is why.

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Because high schoolers probably think that's good pay?

94chem said:

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TikiBarrel said:

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pinche gringo said:

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boulderaggie said:

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They don't teach, they infect.

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FIFY

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The scene in Zero Dark Thirty where she speaks to the CIA Director and he asks her why she thinks they recruit promising candidates out of high school vs college (she demurs an answer). This is why.

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Because high schoolers probably think that's good pay?

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You guys are getting paid?

Squadron7 said:

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94chem said:

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TikiBarrel said:

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pinche gringo said:

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boulderaggie said:

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They don't teach, they infect.

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FIFY

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The scene in Zero Dark Thirty where she speaks to the CIA Director and he asks her why she thinks they recruit promising candidates out of high school vs college (she demurs an answer). This is why.

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Because high schoolers probably think that's good pay?

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You guys are getting paid?

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Seriously...like $30K to seduce Russian women? See ya later, Ridgemont!

94chem said:

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Squadron7 said:

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94chem said:

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TikiBarrel said:

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pinche gringo said:

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boulderaggie said:

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They don't teach, they infect.

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FIFY

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The scene in Zero Dark Thirty where she speaks to the CIA Director and he asks her why she thinks they recruit promising candidates out of high school vs college (she demurs an answer). This is why.

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Because high schoolers probably think that's good pay?

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You guys are getting paid?

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Seriously...like $30K to seduce Russian women? See ya later, Ridgemont!

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Plus expenses!

USSF just started the Captains Leadership Course at A&M. I'm sure there's plenty of space to accommodate additional PME courses.

94chem said:

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TikiBarrel said:

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pinche gringo said:

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boulderaggie said:

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They don't teach, they infect.

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FIFY

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The scene in Zero Dark Thirty where she speaks to the CIA Director and he asks her why she thinks they recruit promising candidates out of high school vs college (she demurs an answer). This is why.

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Because high schoolers probably think that's good pay?

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I made $953 a month when I enlisted.