Why doesn't the GOP just use reconciliation to fund DHS?

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TAMU1990
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Just do it - clean simple 1-2 pages and vote. Screw trying to deal with the Dems.
BuddysBud
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TAMU1990 said:

Just do it - clean simple 1-2 pages and vote. Screw trying to deal with the Dems.


Because too many Republicans really don't want it to pass.
Rapier108
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The Senate parliamentarian would have to approve it (she's a Democrat appointee) and IIRC, they can only use it one more time, so perhaps they would rather save it for something else.
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Rapier108 said:

The Senate parliamentarian would have to approve it (she's a Democrat appointee) and IIRC, they can only use it one more time, so perhaps they would rather save it for something else.


Which can be appointed by the senate majority leader..
TAMU1990
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Seems like the parliamentarian can be changed rather easily…
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TAMU1990 said:

Rapier108 said:

The Senate parliamentarian would have to approve it (she's a Democrat appointee) and IIRC, they can only use it one more time, so perhaps they would rather save it for something else.


Which can be appointed by the senate majority leader..

Yep, but Thune won't replace her.
UntoldSpirit
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Trump should re-hire all the TSA agents as ICE agents and then send them to the airports.
Maroon Dawn
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Thune is the most useless controlled opposition RINO in a long time and that's saying something
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BuddysBud said:

TAMU1990 said:

Just do it - clean simple 1-2 pages and vote. Screw trying to deal with the Dems.


Because too many Republicans really don't want it to pass.

The Republicans and the Democrats are working for the same "they" (and it is not "we the people")....not sure who "they" is but I know who "they" is not
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BuddysBud said:

TAMU1990 said:

Just do it - clean simple 1-2 pages and vote. Screw trying to deal with the Dems.


Because too many Republicans really don't want it to pass.

EOT
Deerdude
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UntoldSpirit said:

Trump should re-hire all the TSA agents as ICE agents and then send them to the airports.


Some of those YSA kinds scare me when they hold the confiscated water bottle, I don't think they qualify to be armed.
BMX Bandit
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There have been reports that Trump does not want to go that route.




He wants to get this done also with the save America act.


And as usually happens with Trump, he's probably going to get what he wants:



AlaskanAg99
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Reconciliation can only be used in certain circumstances and there are pretty tight guardrails as to how it can be used. Its not worth burning over 1 item, regardless of how important it is.
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We seem to be able to fund just about everything under "emergency" declarations. In the time of "war" which is now why isn't there a reasonable way to use emergency funding for TSA whose whole reason of existence thanks to Bush is to protect us from terrorists.

So now in a time of war where it's the most important they are working without pay, leaving, or calling out.

What a joke our government is on full display!
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Maroon Dawn said:

Thune is the most useless controlled opposition RINO in a long time and that's saying something



Thune fancies himself a statesman and still believes the Dems are not evil. That's the bottom line. He's not smart.
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BboroAg said:

BuddysBud said:

TAMU1990 said:

Just do it - clean simple 1-2 pages and vote. Screw trying to deal with the Dems.


Because too many Republicans really don't want it to pass.

The Republicans and the Democrats are working for the same "they" (and it is not "we the people")....not sure who "they" is but I know who "they" is not



Ag87H2O
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UntoldSpirit said:

Trump should re-hire all the TSA agents as ICE agents and then send them to the airports.

Great idea. I would love to see that meltdown.
Sq 17
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This isn't about paying TSA anymore
Trump wants to maximize what he can achieve at the negotiating table

Is Trump over playing his hand ?
We will have to stay tuned
Sq 17
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Logos Stick said:

Maroon Dawn said:

Thune is the most useless controlled opposition RINO in a long time and that's saying something



Thune fancies himself a statesman and still believes the Dems are not evil. That's the bottom line. He's not smart.


Thune is smart enough to count to 50 and to 60 and is currently not willing to force a vote when he doesn't have the votes
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AlaskanAg99 said:

Reconciliation can only be used in certain circumstances and there are pretty tight guardrails as to how it can be used. Its not worth burning over 1 item, regardless of how important it is.

I believe the Voter ID Requirement is included in the funding bill for TSA and the other agencies. Since it is in there the bill can not be passed through Reconciliation.

I believe that the Dems/Libs have offered Amendments to remove Voter ID from the bill but the Repubs have shot them down.

This was probably added into the bill because it was considered a "Must Pass Bill" but the Dems/Libs had other ideas.
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Sq 17 said:

Logos Stick said:

Maroon Dawn said:

Thune is the most useless controlled opposition RINO in a long time and that's saying something



Thune fancies himself a statesman and still believes the Dems are not evil. That's the bottom line. He's not smart.


Thune is smart enough to count to 50 and to 60 and is currently not willing to force a vote when he doesn't have the votes



Thune serves the same master as Schumer and it ain't the American public.
boulderaggie
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Here's why...
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TAMU1990 said:

Just do it - clean simple 1-2 pages and vote. Screw trying to deal with the Dems.

Because Republicans are *******!
4stringAg
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boulderaggie said:

Here's why...


That tweet from DataRepublican is a complete beatdown of Thune and she's right.
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Logos Stick said:

Maroon Dawn said:

Thune is the most useless controlled opposition RINO in a long time and that's saying something



Thune fancies himself a statesman and still believes the Dems are not evil. That's the bottom line. He's not smart.


This. Rs still think there are rules and want to play by them in hopes Ds will play by the rules when they take control in the future. Except there is only one rule for Ds, win.
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Deal to end Homeland Security shutdown reached, GOP leaders say

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Congressional Republicans announced a new deal on April 1, saying the House of Representatives would agree to pass a previously approved bipartisan Senate bill to fully fund DHS minus Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Border Patrol.

At the same time, they said they'd fast-track separate legislation to secure more long-term dollars for those same agencies.

"In the coming days, Republicans in the Senate and House will be following through on the President's directive by fully funding the entire Department of Homeland Security on two parallel tracks: through the appropriations process and through the reconciliation process," House Speaker Mike Johnson, R-Louisiana, and Senate Majority Leader John Thune, R-South Dakota, said in a joint statement.

Looks like it's reconciliation for ICE...
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