Wealth tax is the Trojan horse for socialism

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12:52p, 4/7/26
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Fascinating argument by David Friedburg. The wealth tax would require a list of ALL possessions the you have already bought and paid tax on (aren't we already doing that with property tax!?) and provide that list to the government. Thus the government can eventually confiscate what ever percentage it deems "fair". Sure, maybe just Billionaires now just like the original income tax was just for the wealthiest. You will own nothing and be happy.

On a side note, David Friedburg paints an abundant future where we will all have robots to do stuff for us and we will work less. That's not utopia, that's a precursor to genocide. In Doetorskys "notes from the Underground",a prominent feature of human nature is pointed out (Jordan Peterson talked about this): If you give a man utopia, they will turn it into chaos just to make things interesting again.
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12:55p, 4/7/26
A wealth tax is just obvious, unabashed socialism. It's more like a Trojan invasion in broad daylight.
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1:18p, 4/7/26
I agree, wealth tax is socialism

However, we all live in elements of socialism. Cannot do with or without it. How much, now that is the real question.

Edited: with or without
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2:07p, 4/7/26
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there are a lot of marxist tactics always being deployed. Started with FDR, only slowed down for a few brief periods, and has accelerated considerably starting circa 2008/2009.

consistently engaging in campaigns to divide the population into haves vs have-nots based on superficial bologna like skin pigment levels because a divided population is easier to control

never-ending tax hikes on the dwindling population of "haves" to support an ever growing government that is expected to solve every problem for every "have not" that chooses to do nothing to help themselves

constantly limiting and trying to eliminate the presence and existence of god, religion, the nuclear family unit, and father figures from society so that people would have nothing to hold higher than the state

usurping institutions like news media, public education, and academia to control the programming and brainwashing propaganda to make sure the haves are dehumanized, individualism and individual liberty are forgotten, collectivism is glorified, history is changed, the state is benevolent and merciful, criminals are victims, victims are criminals, children belong to the state, down is up, stealing elections protects democracy, replacing the electorate with the third world with a path to amnesty is a good thing, tax the rich, make them pay their fair share, equity of outcomes, this is our strength, reimagine policing, etc. etc. etc.


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In reply to oh no • 2:11p, 4/7/26
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Kind of like how Communists have always done.
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In reply to infinity ag • 2:12p, 4/7/26
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infinity ag said:
I agree, wealth tax is socialism

However, we all live in elements of socialism. Cannot do with it. How much, now that is the real question.


There's a difference between taxes for things where everyone has access to the benefits: roads, libraries, police/fire services, military, vs the situation where the payer is not also a beneficiary. Wealth tax is 100% a transfer from the productive to the unproductive.
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In reply to infinity ag • 2:16p, 4/7/26
infinity ag said:
I agree, wealth tax is socialism

However, we all live in elements of socialism. Cannot do with it. How much, now that is the real question.

The answer certainly is not more!
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In reply to Esteban du Plantier • 2:28p, 4/7/26
Esteban du Plantier said:
infinity ag said:
I agree, wealth tax is socialism

However, we all live in elements of socialism. Cannot do with it. How much, now that is the real question.


There's a difference between taxes for things where everyone has access to the benefits: roads, libraries, police/fire services, military, vs the situation where the payer is not also a beneficiary. Wealth tax is 100% a transfer from the productive to the unproductive.


I live in a place where all of this exists and I love it.

However, how is this not socialism? What if someone does not use the library? I don't use the local community college but still pay for it through my prop taxes. By next year I won't be using the schools (for my kids). I can argue why should I pay for them anymore? My option is to pay or to move to another area.

All of these are forms of socialism. We just want to accept it.
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2:30p, 4/7/26
Any property tax is already a form of wealth tax.....just not a very good one for some people because it doesn't take into account someone that owns the property outright vs has a large mortgage/note on it.

The same goes for some states make you citizens personal property tax yearly when you get your yearly registration/stickers for Personal Vehicles, RVs, Boats, Trailers, Etc. (anything with a license plate). That also doesn't take into account outright ownership vs loans/equity.

The really scary part is when they start talking about expanding it to retirement accounts and even jewelry, furniture clothing, guns, etc. That fact that we already pay income tax on dividends and captial gains on taxable investment accounts is lost on the socialists and their envy. hen there is that vast nirvana windfall to the "tax wealth crowd" sitting there called non-taxable retirement accounts.



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In reply to FIDO95 • 2:39p, 4/7/26
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On a side note, David Friedburg paints an abundant future where we will all have robots to do stuff for us and we will work less.

He probably took this idea from Elon who espouses the same. Elon's vision is that there will be billions (with a B) robots on the planet doing pretty much everything for us. Each human will have it's own personal robot and money will no longer exist or be relevant. He has gone as far as to say that saving for retirement is now pointless because you won't need it when this happens.
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In reply to YouBet • 2:49p, 4/7/26
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YouBet said:
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On a side note, David Friedburg paints an abundant future where we will all have robots to do stuff for us and we will work less.

He probably took this idea from Elon who espouses the same. Elon's vision is that there will be billions (with a B) robots on the planet doing pretty much everything for us. Each human will have it's own personal robot and money will no longer exist or be relevant. He has gone as far as to say that saving for retirement is now pointless because you won't need it when this happens.

And they both 100% dismiss the history of human nature's need for power and self-destruction.
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In reply to CDUB98 • 3:15p, 4/7/26
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CDUB98 said:
YouBet said:
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On a side note, David Friedburg paints an abundant future where we will all have robots to do stuff for us and we will work less.

He probably took this idea from Elon who espouses the same. Elon's vision is that there will be billions (with a B) robots on the planet doing pretty much everything for us. Each human will have it's own personal robot and money will no longer exist or be relevant. He has gone as far as to say that saving for retirement is now pointless because you won't need it when this happens.

And they both 100% dismiss the history of human nature's need for power and self-destruction.


Yep. I think Elon is delusional on this topic.
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3:37p, 4/7/26
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Wait until you guys read about Total Boomer Luxury Communism


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The essence of TBLC is that it redistributes wealth from younger families and workers to seniors, who are on average much richer. America has achieved the Marxist paradise of hunting in the morning, fishing in the afternoon, rearing cattle in the evening, and criticizing after dinner. Only it looks more like golf in the morning, horseback riding in the afternoon, drinks at the social club in the evening, and a restful night's sleep in a million-dollar homeall thanks to the largesse of the U.S. government.


Eventually, the full amount of the bill will come due, and while the younger generations are already paying into it, there still won't be enough money to go around.

Here's another longer article from our anti-communist and anti-socialist friends at Reason
https://reason.com/video/2026/03/30/you-are-paying-for-retirees-lavish-lifestyles/


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4:32p, 4/7/26
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Sure, maybe just Billionaires now just like the original income tax was just for the wealthiest. You will own nothing and be happy.

And the income tax started at somewhere around 1%-2%. Now most people pay it and it can get up to around 40%. A lot of people think it should be much higher.


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On a side note, David Friedburg paints an abundant future where we will all have robots to do stuff for us and we will work less. That's not utopia, that's a precursor to genocide

If only a few people need to work then why even have the rest around because they are consuming food and other goods. Plus if we eliminate the Surplus Population we could take all their stuff.
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In reply to AozorAg • 4:40p, 4/7/26
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AozorAg said:
A wealth tax is just obvious, unabashed socialism. It's more like a Trojan invasion in broad daylight.
. It has always been that way. Estate tax is socialism. At least they let you die. The income tax today props up all kinds of social programs and only the top half actually pay it, so it's socialism too.
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In reply to YouBet • 6:58p, 4/7/26
YouBet said:
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On a side note, David Friedburg paints an abundant future where we will all have robots to do stuff for us and we will work less.

He probably took this idea from Elon who espouses the same. Elon's vision is that there will be billions (with a B) robots on the planet doing pretty much everything for us. Each human will have it's own personal robot and money will no longer exist or be relevant. He has gone as far as to say that saving for retirement is now pointless because you won't need it when this happens.


I've listened to a number of podcasts this year on robots and how they will be mainstream, affordable, and easily bought in the 5-10 year range.

Most of these podcasts have said their numbers would be outrageous like your B number. But also say their usable life will only be 5-7 years.

How will they safely dispose of the droid army robots at the end of their life without adding to the carbon footprint or killing the sea turtles with pollution!?!?

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WestHoustonAg79 said:
YouBet said:
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On a side note, David Friedburg paints an abundant future where we will all have robots to do stuff for us and we will work less.

He probably took this idea from Elon who espouses the same. Elon's vision is that there will be billions (with a B) robots on the planet doing pretty much everything for us. Each human will have it's own personal robot and money will no longer exist or be relevant. He has gone as far as to say that saving for retirement is now pointless because you won't need it when this happens.


I've listened to a number of podcasts this year on robots and how they will be mainstream, affordable, and easily bought in the 5-10 year range.

Most of these podcasts have said their numbers would be outrageous like your B number. But also say their usable life will only be 5-7 years.

How will they safely dispose of the droid army robots at the end of their life without adding to the carbon footprint or killing the sea turtles with pollution!?!?



There is a lot about this plan that doesn't work well. I think large assumptions are made that technology will solve all of this by the time we get there. When Elon was asked about robots doing everything for humans and how that would kill humanity's drive and purpose his response was, "Well, not every plan is perfect." And then he just kind of laughed.

Robots are going to happen and it just seems like the makers have zero regard for humanity with it. As if they are creating their own self-fulfilling prophecy knowing it will destroy us but they want to be the ones on the frontier of it if it's going to happen anyway.
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In reply to YouBet • 7:37p, 4/7/26
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YouBet said:
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On a side note, David Friedburg paints an abundant future where we will all have robots to do stuff for us and we will work less.

He probably took this idea from Elon who espouses the same. Elon's vision is that there will be billions (with a B) robots on the planet doing pretty much everything for us. Each human will have it's own personal robot and money will no longer exist or be relevant. He has gone as far as to say that saving for retirement is now pointless because you won't need it when this happens.

I can buy more robots than you.
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B-1 83 said:
YouBet said:
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On a side note, David Friedburg paints an abundant future where we will all have robots to do stuff for us and we will work less.

He probably took this idea from Elon who espouses the same. Elon's vision is that there will be billions (with a B) robots on the planet doing pretty much everything for us. Each human will have it's own personal robot and money will no longer exist or be relevant. He has gone as far as to say that saving for retirement is now pointless because you won't need it when this happens.

I can buy more robots than you.


And use my larger group of robots, let's call it an army, to acquire any resources that are scarce, and withhold them from others unless they pay me a high price (preferably paid in more robots to continue my stranglehold on having superior robot #'s)
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9:00p, 4/7/26
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Social security was the Trojan horse.

Then came the welfare state.

Then came free healthcare is a human right.

Then came the third world invasion by invitation.

And all along the way came the fraud.

It is evil. It's immoral. It's Marxist. It's theft. It's a lot of terrible things rolled in to one. But we are waaaay too far gone for it to be a Trojan horse.
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In reply to SunrayAg • 11:48p, 4/7/26
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6:40a, 4/8/26
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Frog been boiling for decades.
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In reply to Lone Stranger • 6:47a, 4/8/26
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Lone Stranger said:
Any property tax is already a form of wealth tax.....just not a very good one for some people because it doesn't take into account someone that owns the property outright vs has a large mortgage/note on it.



Why should it matter if there is a mortgage or not? Should someone without a mortgage have to pay more?
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In reply to reineraggie09 • 11:28a, 4/8/26
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Arguably the lien holder actually possesses the interest in the property equivalent to the outstanding balance if the property is collateral for the loan. The loan is on their books as an asset and is a debt to the borrower, so with a wealth tax, the value of outstanding loans should be taxed against the lender who has it as a book asset.

This is an accounting mess but at least an arguable perspective


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In reply to infinity ag • 11:45a, 4/8/26
We didn't have income tax in this country until what 1913? Before that the government was funded by tariffs and if needed bond sales. There is no reason we need personal income taxes. We need a balanced budget, we need personal responsibility and accountability.
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12:54p, 4/8/26
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It's not a Trojan horse… it's pure Communist style confiscation of private property . I suppose it's insidious in that it's incremental but it doesn't stop with the billionaires… it always bleeds its way down the food chain and it's based on the state superseding the individual. The beast never has enough power and control to be satisfied.

It basically ends the same every time. Lots of dead people and a tyrannical state that ultimately fails anyway
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12:57p, 4/8/26
It is funny how they liberals move the goalposts on what wealth is, when they need more of your money to spend.
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1:33p, 4/8/26
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Socialism sells very well to the ignorant masses. They have to witness its failure every so often to realize how bad it is.

So let's see a few of these idiot states go down that path and serve as bad examples. As long as the Feds don't bail them out, it could serve a useful purpose.
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In reply to tysker • 4:35p, 4/8/26
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This made sense from the point that politics is the only way to solve this situation. But name one politician that has the stones to try to take that on. BTW, I'm an old, but agree something needs to change.
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5:11p, 4/8/26
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If someone ever tells me I don't pay my fair share, I won't even have time to respond because my wife will have already attacked them like a spider monkey.
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5:49p, 4/8/26
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One of the problems with the two-party / uni-party system is that one party is full on socialist, while the other party is only lip service towards an inkling of maybe possibly attempting to slow the socialism slide that they can never reverse.

The populist America 1st movement in the last 10 years for Trump gives hope. However, it appears that Javier Milei in Argentina is more of what the people wanted, but didn't get (yet).

There's just been too many successful road blocks by the regime here. The socialist regime's ability to use their control of packed activist lower courts, media, and tech platform monopolies for interference, disruption, division, and chaos (all marxist tactics) has been successful and they have been able to use the scamdemic for mass-mailed ez fraud elections that enabled mass unfettered migration of future socialist voters to facilitate the downfall of individualism and capitalism, the elimination of god and religion, and the destruction of America that they crave will continue.
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