... that changed our landscape forever. Happy San Jacinto Day.
milner79 said:
... that changed our landscape forever. Happy San Jacinto Day.
LMCane said:milner79 said:
... that changed our landscape forever. Happy San Jacinto Day.
LOL
I guarantee there are about .7% of all Americans who even know what San Jacinto was.
to think that changed the American landscape is looking at the world through glasses made in Dallas
LMCane said:milner79 said:
... that changed our landscape forever. Happy San Jacinto Day.
LOL
I guarantee there are about .7% of all Americans who even know what San Jacinto was.
to think that changed the American landscape is looking at the world through glasses made in Dallas
aggiehawg said:
Few people outside of Texas knew what Juneteenth meant until fairly recently either.
LMCane said:milner79 said:
... that changed our landscape forever. Happy San Jacinto Day.
LOL
I guarantee there are about .7% of all Americans who even know what San Jacinto was.
to think that changed the American landscape is looking at the world through glasses made in Dallas
aggiehawg said:
Few people outside of Texas knew what Juneteenth meant until fairly recently either.
LMCane said:milner79 said:
... that changed our landscape forever. Happy San Jacinto Day.
LOL
I guarantee there are about .7% of all Americans who even know what San Jacinto was.
to think that changed the American landscape is looking at the world through glasses made in Dallas
BMX Bandit said:LMCane said:milner79 said:
... that changed our landscape forever. Happy San Jacinto Day.
LOL
I guarantee there are about .7% of all Americans who even know what San Jacinto was.
to think that changed the American landscape is looking at the world through glasses made in Dallas
your yankeeness is showing.
if you don't understand how Texas being a part of the United States rather than mexico shaped the world, you need to educate yourself. one of the world's leaders in oil, but no big deal which country it sits in.
if Texas doesn't defeat mexico, it never becomes a state.
Phatbob said:LMCane said:milner79 said:
... that changed our landscape forever. Happy San Jacinto Day.
LOL
I guarantee there are about .7% of all Americans who even know what San Jacinto was.
to think that changed the American landscape is looking at the world through glasses made in Dallas
Pfhhh, they have great fajitas and a margarita special on Tuesdays... who doesn't know that???
CrackerJackAg said:BMX Bandit said:LMCane said:milner79 said:
... that changed our landscape forever. Happy San Jacinto Day.
LOL
I guarantee there are about .7% of all Americans who even know what San Jacinto was.
to think that changed the American landscape is looking at the world through glasses made in Dallas
your yankeeness is showing.
if you don't understand how Texas being a part of the United States rather than mexico shaped the world, you need to educate yourself. one of the world's leaders in oil, but no big deal which country it sits in.
if Texas doesn't defeat mexico, it never becomes a state.
Honestly Texas & Mexico would have been a serious power.
Mexico would be majority European with am American Style Constitution.
I'm not sure that we wouldn't hold everything up to California right now.
In the grand scheme that might have been better.
milner79 said:CrackerJackAg said:BMX Bandit said:LMCane said:milner79 said:
... that changed our landscape forever. Happy San Jacinto Day.
LOL
I guarantee there are about .7% of all Americans who even know what San Jacinto was.
to think that changed the American landscape is looking at the world through glasses made in Dallas
your yankeeness is showing.
if you don't understand how Texas being a part of the United States rather than mexico shaped the world, you need to educate yourself. one of the world's leaders in oil, but no big deal which country it sits in.
if Texas doesn't defeat mexico, it never becomes a state.
Honestly Texas & Mexico would have been a serious power.
Mexico would be majority European with am American Style Constitution.
I'm not sure that we wouldn't hold everything up to California right now.
In the grand scheme that might have been better.
Reminder: Dictator Santa Anna had abolished the Constitution of 1824 in favor of a centralist (i.e. dictatorial) government. Contemplating anything that might have happened had he not been overthrown at San Jacinto is pure speculation. Mexico and it's member states were in upheaval over the move toward centralization.
If my choices are citizenship with Mexico or citizenship with United States, even with it many government-driven flaws, I choose United States.
With gratitude to Sam Houston and his fellow Texas patriots!
aggiehawg said:
Few people outside of Texas knew what Juneteenth meant until fairly recently either.
Urban Ag said:
Texas was incompatible with Mexico. Revolution or not, it was destined to become part of the US. Way too much coastline and simply too much land sitting between the SE states and the west coast. Too much border with existing and future American territory. Mostly settled by Europeans much more aligned culturally to the US than Mexico. Mexico never had the ability to hold on to its northern territory.
One way or the other Texas was coming with us.
Jarrin Jay said:Urban Ag said:
Texas was incompatible with Mexico. Revolution or not, it was destined to become part of the US. Way too much coastline and simply too much land sitting between the SE states and the west coast. Too much border with existing and future American territory. Mostly settled by Europeans much more aligned culturally to the US than Mexico. Mexico never had the ability to hold on to its northern territory.
One way or the other Texas was coming with us.
In the long run I agree but it's not that simple. If you remember and have had correct education the Texas revolution started with the goal of having Texas be an independent Mexican state, not seceding from Mexico.
Sid Farkas said:
Texas' sensibility and politics will eventually be called upon to save America.
If people don't know now, they will.
Jarrin Jay said:
Deerdude, same here. I don't say Dallas or USA, I say TEXAS and it always gets a good response whether it's Munich, Buenos Aires, etc.
The primary reason I am such a huge history fan is just thinking of all the singe decisions made by individuals that have helped shape and impact the world we live in today.
Santa Ana never should have besieged and attacked the Alamo, he should have bypassed it and gone after Sam Houston's army. Could then have come back to San Antonio if needed, but it probably would not have been. Major implications, may have all ended the same anyway with the US-Mexico war but who knows.
Probably the biggest blunder is Hitler breaking his compact with Stalin and attacking Russia. Had he not done that and was satisfied with Western Europe, the parts of Central Europe the agreement with Stalin "gave" to Germany and the Nordic countries, it is highly doubtful if the U.S./UK/Allies would have been able to dislodge and defeat the Germans from Western Europe. Not to diminish what the US Army did in WWIi in that theater of war, but really it was Russia that defeated Germany. A substantial amount of troops and equipment was committed to the Russian front.
There are other examples of course but those are the biggest and most recent ones.

IIIHorn said:
President Trump should have renamed the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of Texas.
BusterAg said:IIIHorn said:
President Trump should have renamed the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of Texas.
I agree.
However, if named for a state, he probably would have picked Florida.
Deerdude said:
I introduce myself as being from Texas when traveling abroad. Nobody questions where that is.
Urban Ag said:
Texas was incompatible with Mexico. Revolution or not, it was destined to become part of the US. Way too much coastline and simply too much land sitting between the SE states and the west coast. Too much border with existing and future American territory. Mostly settled by Europeans much more aligned culturally to the US than Mexico. Mexico never had the ability to hold on to its northern territory.
One way or the other Texas was coming with us.
LMCane said:milner79 said:
... that changed our landscape forever. Happy San Jacinto Day.
LOL
I guarantee there are about .7% of all Americans who even know what San Jacinto was.
to think that changed the American landscape is looking at the world through glasses made in Dallas