I'll start by stating that the onlu reason i'm still a subscriber is because of Walsh. I like Shapiro but he's a little to heady for me. And Over the past couple of weeks I've noticed Walsh's show getting less frequent and shorter. You could sense something was off

This morning i saw online people talking about mass layoffs, and then i saw this…

https://www.thewrap.com/media-platforms/journalism/ben-shapiro-the-daily-wire-layoffs-nashville/

what's gone wrong?

They are the media equivalent of Spirit Airlines?

that was my guess too. I know Boering was a big theater kid/Hollywood wannabe, so they did the whole Production company thing, but it made zero sense.

I have watched Walsh's docs, which are brilliant, but tried the Pendragon thing and it was utterly unwatchable. Have never done any of the kids programming for my kids, and have literally spoken to nobody who has either. It was always a head scratcher.

aggietony2010 said:

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Conservatives are in power ...

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Where?

Not at the national level, or in Texas.


If you live in Florida, they've got a pretty conservative state government...maybe Oklahoma....but </shrugs>

About six months ago Walsh had a short segment that wasn't anti-Israel but was just a warning to the Republican Party to not ignore the growing anti-Israel sentiment in the party. I went back about a week later to try to find it and couldn't. Maybe I didn't look hard enough, but I searched the transcripts.

I would imagine Walsh is by far their most popular podcaster. Not sure what would happen if he decided to leave.

TresPuertas said:

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that was my guess too. I know Boering was a big theater kid/Hollywood wannabe, so they did the whole Production company thing, but it made zero sense.

I have watched Walsh's docs, which are brilliant, but tried the Pendragon thing and it was utterly unwatchable. Have never done any of the kids programming for my kids, and have literally spoken to nobody who has either. It was always a head scratcher.

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The Pendragon Cycle was great.

For being a genius, Ben gets hoodwinked alot by the libs. He always encourages following the rule of law with them when they don't with us and talks down about anyone trying to change the status quo. He thinks there's not enough evidence to support the widespread voter fraud that occurred in 2020 and he pushed the COVID vaccine hard. He doesn't take being wrong well.

That being said, I like his breakdowns when it comes to specific legal decisions. It's just hard to put up with the stubborn condescension.

Waffledynamics said:

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TresPuertas said:

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I'll start by stating that the onlu reason i'm still a subscriber is because of Walsh. I like Shapiro but he's a little to heady for me. And Over the past couple of weeks I've noticed Walsh's show getting less frequent and shorter. You could sense something was off

This morning i saw online people talking about mass layoffs, and then i saw this…

https://www.thewrap.com/media-platforms/journalism/ben-shapiro-the-daily-wire-layoffs-nashville/

what's gone wrong?

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They fired Brett Cooper, Ben wouldn't stfu about Israel sometimes dedicating 90% entire episodes to it, and then Shapiro kept adding guests to his shows. The quality went down.

The final straw for me was Ben trying to handwave away the Epstein stuff.

Overall the company just seems less authentic and more shill-y.

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They didn't fire Brett Cooper. Her contract ended and they didn't come to agreement on new contract.

They have added all types of content and new host. I don't think the Pendragon went the way Jeremy wanted it to go meaning no season 2 at this time. Jeremy leaves to do other things which means he has to be bought out to some degree. That's why they sold Lifetime membership which I snagged one. So a little trimming of staff in a small private company happens and will make it stronger. Also I get a survey about content almost weekly. It will be interesting to see if the Pendragon shows up on Amazon or Netflix that gives them a place to recoup costs.

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About six months ago Walsh had a short segment that wasn't anti-Israel but was just a warning to the Republican Party to not ignore the growing anti-Israel sentiment in the party. I went back about a week later to try to find it and couldn't. Maybe I didn't look hard enough, but I searched the transcripts.

I would imagine Walsh is by far their most popular podcaster. Not sure what would happen if he decided to leave.

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Matt is doing some other shows on history that are really good.

Matt is switching focus to documentaries (like What is a Woman? and an upcoming rebuttal to Ken Burns), which takes up time.

The Real History stuff is some of the best and most important content they have created.

Peterson's illness has robbed them of one of their better content creators.

I don't subscribe, though, so this is just mean picking up the free **** on YT.

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They fired Brett Cooper,

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They didn't fire her; she left voluntarily.



Which was too bad, because I liked The Comment Section.

Same here and it hasn't been the same without her.

Huge impact has been Jordan Peterson being sidelined because of health issues. I'm loving the addition of Pints with Aquinas. We watched the Passion of Christ on DW at 3pm on Good Friday this year. It's BS about the Israel content. So DW currently has 4Catholic host, Brown, Walsh, Knowles, and Fradd.

The populist, America first , "woke" part of the right wing is the more relevant part?

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TresPuertas said:

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that was my guess too. I know Boering was a big theater kid/Hollywood wannabe, so they did the whole Production company thing, but it made zero sense.

I have watched Walsh's docs, which are brilliant, but tried the Pendragon thing and it was utterly unwatchable. Have never done any of the kids programming for my kids, and have literally spoken to nobody who has either. It was always a head scratcher.

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The Pendragon Cycle was great.

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At best it is niche. I really wanted to like it but barely got through the first episode. Had some cool scenes but the story was extremely hard to follow and they had all kinds of blending of back and forth and dream sequences and I just was done. I'm a huge GOT and well done fantasy fan but it came across as something that appeals only to a hardcore Arthur legend fan or something.

More importantly it was a massive expense and distraction for years that was well outside the lines of what they are best at. There is so much good content they could make movies about on Biblical stories or history and they went huge with Pedragon.

Bentkey was another huge flop. I remember when they started it Boering talked about what a huge $100 million bet it was and that it could kill the company. Well. I think the concept was decent but they went way too big and way too fast and made it all at an extra cost basically to sample it. That's just not how it works. The way to do it is to start smaller with a few shows that are free at first and build viewership while seeing what works and what doesn't. Instead they basically decided to go all in and assume that their brand was strong enough to get people to sign up without really getting to know the product.

All the other stuff is just noise, though losing Peterson and Cooper hurt. Candace turning into a complete psycho was unfortunate and they also had the dustup with Crowder. Still a lot of strong base to work from but they have definitely taken some licks. Need to get back to fundamentals and what their customers want.

Oh, and I'm a subscriber.

Never renewed my subscription after he denied the possibility of widespread fraud in 2020. I enjoyed his articulate analysis up until that point. He couldn't see the forest for the trees.

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I think the downfall of the DW is being exaggerated. Sure it's viewership has gone down but if you look on YouTube they still get a lot.

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DW is always dabbling in different ventures. They are constantly going to be investing and de-investing. They aren't an old and lethargic company that is just going to do what they did yesterday and do it in the same way. This is similar to Microsoft and Meta laying off people recently to free up cash flows for other investments (i.e. AI).

Michael Knowles is all I listen to and I like his analysis although he drags points on too long. I watched the first episode of Pendragon and could not stand the repetitive extended flashbacks and poor man's cgi done by AI. Unwatchable. I used to listen to Morning Wire, it was short and to the point but not good enough to pay for.

My opinion is that they tried to do it all for conservatives but other than the individual shows and Matt's specials they just seem to fall flat. I don't need conservative candles, cigars, razors, etc. Bentkey I actually thought had a chance given the woke infiltration of popular kids shows. But then I also realized I can just not give my kids devices at all or go with Mr. Rogers from the library. Maybe other conservatives just don't consume as much media also?

Hope they figure it out

Shapiro never denied the fraud specifically. Basically said there was as no concrete evidence and being obsessed with it will not help win elections. Instead focus on how hard core the left is and Bidens mental state

He's always said there are grey area shenanigan's.

Tucker Carlson is eating them up.

Watch ben whine or Tucker platform some wild ass humans? I'm watching Tucker every time

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aggies101 said:

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Turns out a lot of Americans don't want to hear his Israel first propaganda. The more he doubles down the faster his company will eventually tank. Shapiro really thought he could pick up with Charlie Kirk left off but a lot of people just aren't having it.

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This reads like what Rush used to call "seminar callers"...there are a few on this thread who it is apparent are not and have never been DW listeners while pretending to be. And Shapiro has done what exactly co-opt Charlie's movement?

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Promoting a war with Iran? Go back and watch Charlie's podcast when it came to the subject of war with them. Everything that is happening now he literally predicted and was against.

Shapiro is a paid agent of Israel pushing their propaganda and people caught on. He's also an unlikeable nerd who is incredibly stupid. Glad his/Israels program is going into the gutter where it belongs.

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For me and some people I know, it went from a conservative site to a rah rah Israel site.

Nothing wrong with being pro Israel, but it seems half or more of the articles are through that lens. To the point of it getting exhausting.

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It's definitely challenging to have a conservative news and info company in our current culture.

Waffledynamics said:

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TresPuertas said:

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I'll start by stating that the onlu reason i'm still a subscriber is because of Walsh. I like Shapiro but he's a little to heady for me. And Over the past couple of weeks I've noticed Walsh's show getting less frequent and shorter. You could sense something was off

This morning i saw online people talking about mass layoffs, and then i saw this…

https://www.thewrap.com/media-platforms/journalism/ben-shapiro-the-daily-wire-layoffs-nashville/

what's gone wrong?

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They fired Brett Cooper, Ben wouldn't stfu about Israel sometimes dedicating 90% entire episodes to it, and then Shapiro kept adding guests to his shows. The quality went down.

The final straw for me was Ben trying to handwave away the Epstein stuff.

Overall the company just seems less authentic and more shill-y.

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Shapiro's kryptonite might be in who he hires. Brett turned out to be a moron. Of course Candace is the biggest **** on planet earth.