.@JobCreatorsUSA CEO Alfredo Ortiz on the strong April job report: "Under this administration and under the leadership of @SBA_Kelly, small businesses are leading the charge here." pic.twitter.com/5DVhuZhnTi

— Rapid Response 47 (@RapidResponse47) May 8, 2026

Confirmation of the ADP private payrolls data released on Wednesday.

Usual suspects waiting on their talking points?
I'm sure the email will be out shortly. Hell the claim on the ADP thread was that government data is untrustworthy and manipulated (don't there an R in office... And ADP isn't govt data).

Here is my talking point:

AI is not going to hurt small businesses. It is going to help small businesses. A lot. A whole, whole lot.

BusterAg said:

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Here is my talking point:

AI is not going to hurt small businesses. It is going to help small businesses. A lot. A whole, whole lot.

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It's like everything else....depends on the type of business.

If you're a small manufacturer, or service provider, I'd agree with you.

A buddy of mine owns a small property appraising company. He says it's just a matter of time. Another buddy owns a small graphic design firm. They've already seen a huge drop.

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How many times do we need this rug pull to happen before we stop trusting this damn report? This has happened far too many times for y'all to have not picked up on it yet. Report comes out with big numbers backed by fuzzy estimations and incomplete data. Months later the revision comes out and show it was all a mirage. Rinse and repeat.

I also want to see where all these supposed jobs are going. So far, for the last few years, all we've seen grow is the healthcare industry as the Boomers retire and start hiring in home nurses. Those manufacturing jobs that were supposed to come flooding back? Nowhere to be seen.

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When Biden told coal miners

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Learn to Code To Be Prepared for 'Jobs of the Future'

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[url=https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-new-hampshire-campaign-code-1479913][/url]Newsweek

he should have told them to learn to weld!!

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BusterAg said:

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Here is my talking point:

AI is not going to hurt small businesses. It is going to help small businesses. A lot. A whole, whole lot.

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It's like everything else....depends on the type of business.

If you're a small manufacturer, or service provider, I'd agree with you.

A buddy of mine owns a small property appraising company. He says it's just a matter of time. Another buddy owns a small graphic design firm. They've already seen a huge drop.

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I am working on an AI 401A valuation company, so I believe that AI can, in fact, help small business valuation / appraisal companies.

Graphic design firms as well, you just have to step up your game. If you become an expert in using AI to create better logos, websites, etc, there will be a market for your services.

Adapt or die.

April 2023 - 230,000 Private 23,000 Government (Manufacturing +11,000)

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/archives/empsit_05052023.htm

April 2024 - 167,000 Private 8,000 Government (Manufacturing +8,000)

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/archives/empsit_05032024.pdf

April 2025 - 167,000 Private 10,000 Government (Manufacturing -1,000)

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/archives/empsit_05022025.pdf

April 2026 - 123,000 Private -10,000 Government (Manufacturing -2,000)

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/archives/empsit_05082026.htm

While the administration deserves credit for cutting government jobs, the number of Private jobs added is still be far the lowest in the last 4 years.

Edit fixed the numbers.

Bad reading.

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BusterAg said:

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Here is my talking point:

AI is not going to hurt small businesses. It is going to help small businesses. A lot. A whole, whole lot.

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It's like everything else....depends on the type of business.

If you're a small manufacturer, or service provider, I'd agree with you.

A buddy of mine owns a small property appraising company. He says it's just a matter of time. Another buddy owns a small graphic design firm. They've already seen a huge drop.

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I am working on an AI 401A valuation company, so I believe that AI can, in fact, help small business valuation / appraisal companies.

Graphic design firms as well, you just have to step up your game. If you become an expert in using AI to create better logos, websites, etc, there will be a market for your services.

Adapt or die.

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Yes, it certainly can help them. In fact, both those examples I gave are utilizing Ai.

But it's not a matter of adaptation. It's efficiency.

If 1 company can now do the work of 10....that's 9 less small businesses. The marketplace will adapt as well...

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April 2023 - 230,000 Private 23,000 Government (Manufacturing +11,000)

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/archives/empsit_05052023.htm

April 2024 - 167,000 Private 8 Government (Manufacturing +8,000)

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/archives/empsit_05032024.pdf

April 2025 - 167,000 Private 10 Government (Manufacturing -1,000)

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/archives/empsit_05022025.pdf

April 2026 - 123,000 Private -10 Government (Manufacturing -2,000)

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/archives/empsit_05082026.htm

While the administration deserves credit for cutting government jobs, the number of Private jobs added is still be far the lowest in the last 4 years.

Edit fixed the numbers.

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been explained 1000 times

apples and hand grenades

this report is 4x break even

Job growth is lop sided though.

https://finance.yahoo.com/economy/article/april-jobs-report-economy-adds-115000-jobs-far-better-than-expected-182224225.html

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Still, Friday's jobs report showed that last month's gains were, once again, driven in part by the health care and social assistance supersector, which added nearly 54,000 roles. Transportation and warehousing also showed some strength, bringing on more than 30,000 jobs, especially among couriers and messengers.

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Tech still sucks big time.

Good news is good news, but I don't look at this as a time to celebrate. Lot to happen before we get there.

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How many times do we need this rug pull to happen before we stop trusting this damn report? This has happened far too many times for y'all to have not picked up on it yet. Report comes out with big numbers backed by fuzzy estimations and incomplete data. Months later the revision comes out and show it was all a mirage. Rinse and repeat.

I also want to see where all these supposed jobs are going. So far, for the last few years, all we've seen grow is the healthcare industry as the Boomers retire and start hiring in home nurses.

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Those manufacturing jobs that were supposed to come flooding back? Nowhere to be seen.

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So the answer to my question was... 15 Minutes!

Now lets break this down some...

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Report comes out with big numbers backed by fuzzy estimations and incomplete data. Months later the revision comes out and show it was all a mirage. Rinse and repeat.

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Well it actually tracks well with the numbers reported earlier this week by the PRIVATE payroll processing firm ADP. Additionally another poster pointed out that this report used later data to revise previous data UP, not down.

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So far, for the last few years, all we've seen grow is the healthcare industry as the Boomers retire and start hiring in home nurses.

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Well all of the "Home Nurses" appear to be fraud so we can't really count on those since we're cleaning that up now can we?

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Those manufacturing jobs that were supposed to come flooding back? Nowhere to be seen.

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Yeah that chip manufacturing facility that Elon wants to build at Gibbons Creek... The locals are right. That won't create any manufacturing jobs. Just a giant building that will appear out of nowhere and be fully staffed with robots and automation.

even CNN had to admit it was good...

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"This was a big beat for the job market... The U.S. economy adding 115,000 jobs in April that's almost twice as much as the consensus from economists."

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CNN: "The jobs report surpassing the expectation this morning."

"This was a big beat for the job market... The U.S. economy adding 115,000 jobs in April — that's almost twice as much as the consensus from economists." pic.twitter.com/N63339pXkF

— Rapid Response 47 (@RapidResponse47) May 8, 2026

Bull***** Everyone is laying off like mad right now.

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I dont believe any of these reports, no matter who is putting it out. its all a game to them and we suffer.

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Everyone plays the same game.

Layoffs every day and people celebrating about some rosy jobs report??

We need to open our eyes and not blindly believe these institutions.

They don't want to understand

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even CNN had to admit it was good...

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"This was a big beat for the job market... The U.S. economy adding 115,000 jobs in April that's almost twice as much as the consensus from economists."

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"Better than expected" does NOT mean "good"

When you expect it to stink to high heavens and it does not stink as much (but still stinks), it does not mean it smells of forests and rain.

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Bull***** Everyone is laying off like mad right now.

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Not everyone. I'm in a construction related field and we are hiring and have a 6 month plus backlog.

Business is good.

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Cromagnum said:

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Bull***** Everyone is laying off like mad right now.

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Not everyone. I'm in a construction related field and we are hiring and have a 6 month plus backlog.

Business is good.

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Good for you, you are in the 3% sectors that are doing well.

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Logos Stick said:

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even CNN had to admit it was good...

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"This was a big beat for the job market... The U.S. economy adding 115,000 jobs in April that's almost twice as much as the consensus from economists."

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"Better than expected" does NOT mean "good"

When you expect it to stink to high heavens and it does not stink as much (but still stinks), it does not mean it smells of forests and rain.

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4x break-even is extremely good! Data, not feelings and baseless opinion.

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infinity ag said:

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Logos Stick said:

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even CNN had to admit it was good...

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"This was a big beat for the job market... The U.S. economy adding 115,000 jobs in April that's almost twice as much as the consensus from economists."

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"Better than expected" does NOT mean "good"

When you expect it to stink to high heavens and it does not stink as much (but still stinks), it does not mean it smells of forests and rain.

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4x break-even is extremely good! Data, not feelings and baseless opinion.

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Okay. From -15, we are at -12. Good news no doubt, we could easily have slid to -20.
That is the positive.


Big picture is still very negative, we are still at -12 and people are struggling.

Note: Numbers are for illustrative purposes and have no other meaning