How long will it take to replace missiles fired at Iran?

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K2-HMFIC
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Hope China doesn't decide to invade Taiwan anytime soon…we're basically going to be in the **** chair for that one.
BigRobSA
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LMCane
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Enjeti is a long time Israel hater and part of the Tucker Carlson foreign policy club.

for years he has simped for Russia and Iran and Syria.



the REAL answer: the USA has a @#$@# load more munitions than Iran does!
AlexNguyen
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Depends on how you look at it. Getting our pilots and navy very real experience while setting back the Iran nuclear program by at least 3-5 years is anything but a disaster.

Every fool literally has a stage to proclaim his opinion these days, and I fear the average citizen's ability to filter noise and think for himself is suspect.
K2-HMFIC
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LMCane said:

Enjeti is a long time Israel hater and part of the Tucker Carlson foreign policy club.

for years he has simped for Russia and Iran and Syria.



the REAL answer: the USA has a @#$@# load more munitions than Iran does!





It's a screenshot from the CSIS report which just got released today.

BL: We spent 30 years optimizing for boutique precision warfare against weak states. A peer fight requires stockpiles, shipyards, energetics production, microelectronics, and the ability to sustain attrition over years.

The report is basically saying:

"The arsenal of democracy can still build incredible weapons…but it no longer mobilizes at WWII speed."
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AlexNguyen said:

Depends on how you look at it. Getting our pilots and navy very real experience while setting back the Iran nuclear program by at least 3-5 years is anything but a disaster.

Every fool literally has a stage to proclaim his opinion these days, and I fear the average citizen's ability to filter noise and think for himself is suspect.



This is true. As long as China doesn't invade Taiwan.
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K2-HMFIC said:



Hope China doesn't decide to invade Taiwan anytime soon…we're basically going to be in the **** chair for that one.


I think people casually dismissing the resources we've used to prosecute this war are being very narrow-minded and short-sighted.

But since you're a military guy I'd expect to see some type of analysis regarding which of those munitions we'd need to engage in Taiwan before assessing how much it handicaps us.
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the REAL answer: the USA has a @#$@# load more munitions than Iran does!


That's about as relevant to this topic as telling us what you had for breakfast
Hank the Grifter
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If you believe the tweet in the OP then you're a complete idiot.

ZERO critical thinking skills exercised.
K2-HMFIC
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DTP02 said:

K2-HMFIC said:



Hope China doesn't decide to invade Taiwan anytime soon…we're basically going to be in the **** chair for that one.


I think people casually dismissing the resources we've a used to prosecute this war are being very narrow-minded and short-sighted.

But since you're a military guy I'd expect to see some type of analysis regarding which of those munitions we'd need to engage in Taiwan before assessing how much it handicaps us.



A Pacific war is fundamentally a missile war.

China's entire strategy is built around massed missile fires designed to keep the US military OUT of the first island chain long enough to overrun Taiwan before we can effectively respond.

That means:

DF-21 and DF-26 anti-ship ballistic missiles targeting carriers

Massive cruise missile strikes on Okinawa, Guam, Kadena, Andersen, fuel farms, ports, and logistics hubs

Saturation attacks against air defenses and runways

Long-range strikes intended to degrade C2, ISR, and sustainment

The munitions CSIS is talking about are the backbone of surviving that opening phase.

Patriot/THAAD/SM-3:These are what protect bases, ports, logistics nodes, and carrier strike groups from ballistic and cruise missile attack. If those inventories run low, you start losing aircraft on the ground, fuel storage, ports, and air defense coverage.

Tomahawks:These are among the few weapons we can fire in large numbers from submarines and surface ships at long range in the opening days of a conflict. They're critical for suppressing Chinese air defenses, radar sites, missile launchers, and command nodes before manned aircraft can operate more freely.

SM-6:Arguably one of the most important weapons in the inventory because it can do multiple jobs: air defense, anti-missile work, and even anti-ship strike.

The bigger issue is this:China has spent 25 years preparing for an industrialized regional war in the Pacific. The US spent 25 years fighting insurgencies while optimizing for low munition expenditure rates.

The uncomfortable realization now hitting DC is that modern peer war burns through precision munitions at a rate the US defense industrial base was never designed to sustain.
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K2-HMFIC said:

DTP02 said:

K2-HMFIC said:



Hope China doesn't decide to invade Taiwan anytime soon…we're basically going to be in the **** chair for that one.


I think people casually dismissing the resources we've a used to prosecute this war are being very narrow-minded and short-sighted.

But since you're a military guy I'd expect to see some type of analysis regarding which of those munitions we'd need to engage in Taiwan before assessing how much it handicaps us.



A Pacific war is fundamentally a missile war.

China's entire strategy is built around massed missile fires designed to keep the US military OUT of the first island chain long enough to overrun Taiwan before we can effectively respond.

That means:

DF-21 and DF-26 anti-ship ballistic missiles targeting carriers

Massive cruise missile strikes on Okinawa, Guam, Kadena, Andersen, fuel farms, ports, and logistics hubs

Saturation attacks against air defenses and runways

Long-range strikes intended to degrade C2, ISR, and sustainment

The munitions CSIS is talking about are the backbone of surviving that opening phase.

Patriot/THAAD/SM-3:These are what protect bases, ports, logistics nodes, and carrier strike groups from ballistic and cruise missile attack. If those inventories run low, you start losing aircraft on the ground, fuel storage, ports, and air defense coverage.

Tomahawks:These are among the few weapons we can fire in large numbers from submarines and surface ships at long range in the opening days of a conflict. They're critical for suppressing Chinese air defenses, radar sites, missile launchers, and command nodes before manned aircraft can operate more freely.

SM-6:Arguably one of the most important weapons in the inventory because it can do multiple jobs: air defense, anti-missile work, and even anti-ship strike.

The bigger issue is this:China has spent 25 years preparing for an industrialized regional war in the Pacific. The US spent 25 years fighting insurgencies while optimizing for low munition expenditure rates.

The uncomfortable realization now hitting DC is that modern peer war burns through precision munitions at a rate the US defense industrial base was never designed to sustain.

I'd imagine that every president, current to at least the past half century, would have been told this and taken this into consideration before any military action was taken by them.

Regardless, even if Iran depletes us to the bone, ain't no one got the balls to try and do anything. I mean, we do have nukes after all, and that is a very big deterrent on its own.
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May be notable that there was an article a few days ago about Trump reaching out to Ford, GM, and others to discuss their participation in ramping up military resources ala WWII.

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Anyone looking for work?
KerrAg76
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Total BS to feed the leftist narrative. Math done using Biden era military spending drawdowns as baseline capabilities. Stupid people will buy into this math.
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BigRobSA said:

"It's on the internet, so it's true " - Abraham Lincoln while signing the Magna Carta


I was there. His secretary signed it for him.
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LMCane said:

Enjeti is a long time Israel hater and part of the Tucker Carlson foreign policy club.

for years he has simped for Russia and Iran and Syria.



the REAL answer: the USA has a @#$@# load more munitions than Iran does!

The real question is "do we have a @#$@# load more munitions than other potential adversaries do?"
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Don't worry. Even though you hate everything Trump does, we're gonna be fine. Your bias is noted.
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Pizza said:

BigRobSA said:

"It's on the internet, so it's true " - Abraham Lincoln while signing the Magna Carta


I was there. His secretary signed it for him.


Figures that he'd use Autopen.
K2-HMFIC
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eric76 said:

LMCane said:

Enjeti is a long time Israel hater and part of the Tucker Carlson foreign policy club.

for years he has simped for Russia and Iran and Syria.



the REAL answer: the USA has a @#$@# load more munitions than Iran does!

The real question is "do we have a @#$@# load more munitions than other potential adversaries do?"



Sure. Everyone.

Except the People's Liberation Army.
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At current rates, he's not wrong. It would absolutely take that long. Contracts have been signed to increase production levels, but those take time to ramp up. Couple in the pricing fluctuations of the raw material required to manufacture said munitions, the cost is increasing as well. Initial lead times will also increase as the raw mat suppliers work to increase their capacity. It's not a good situation to be in for the moment. This administration should have waited a year to launch this large of an attack (especially given last summer's Operation Midnight Hammer attack).
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K2-HMFIC said:

AlexNguyen said:

Depends on how you look at it. Getting our pilots and navy very real experience while setting back the Iran nuclear program by at least 3-5 years is anything but a disaster.

Every fool literally has a stage to proclaim his opinion these days, and I fear the average citizen's ability to filter noise and think for himself is suspect.



This is true. As long as China doesn't invade Taiwan.


We couldn't stop them if we wanted to with conventional weapons, full stockpile or not.

And drone warfare has made many of these weapons obsolete anyway.
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Sounds like more fear mongering from the intel weanies. Plenty of circular reporting. LOL.

Per usual intel advises we should cower in the corner and blame Trump!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/america-s-stockpile-of-tomahawks-patriots-and-thaad-interceptors-just-hit-a-three-year-hole-the-iran-war-burned-through-weapons-the-pentagon-can-t-replace-in-time/ar-AA24gbTo
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What we still do not know
Several critical pieces of the picture remain classified or simply undisclosed as of late May 2026:
  • Exact expenditure numbers. How many Tomahawks, PAC-3 MSEs, and THAAD interceptors were fired during the Iran conflict has not appeared in any unclassified document. Without those figures, no one outside the Pentagon can independently verify the three-year estimate.
  • Current production rates. Monthly output for each weapon system is classified. Senator Kelly's questioning pointed toward official data, but the hearing transcript does not include unit-per-month figures.
  • Surge capacity. Whether RTX and Lockheed Martin have received surge orders, activated reserve production lines, or identified bottlenecks they can break with additional investment has not been confirmed in open sources.
  • Theater allocation. Commanders in Europe, the Indo-Pacific, and the Gulf must decide how to distribute a smaller pool of interceptors. No public planning documents reveal how those trade-offs are being made or how thin forward-deployed stocks have become.
  • Broader allied impact. Beyond Switzerland, no other country has publicly confirmed receiving delay or price-increase notifications, though defense procurement officials in several NATO capitals have privately expressed concern to reporters.




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And Tomahawk depletion has been an ongoing problem.


Quote:

$785 Million Later, the US Navy Still Can't Reload Its Tomahawk Missile Launchers
January 9, 2026


Quote:

Over the past five years, the United States has gone through an estimated 15 years' production of Tomahawk missiles. This rate is unsustainable for US national security.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/785-million-later-us-navy-still-cant-reload-tomahawk-missile-launchers-bw-010926
lead
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OP table doesn't even estimate the actual inventory? Also the math doesn't really add up in most cases.

Seems like propaganda intended to sour the war effort rather than a thoughtful analysis. I guess I'll dive into the reference material…
K2-HMFIC
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bobbranco said:

And Tomahawk depletion has been an ongoing problem.


Quote:

$785 Million Later, the US Navy Still Can't Reload Its Tomahawk Missile Launchers
January 9, 2026


Quote:

Over the past five years, the United States has gone through an estimated 15 years' production of Tomahawk missiles. This rate is unsustainable for US national security.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/785-million-later-us-navy-still-cant-reload-tomahawk-missile-launchers-bw-010926



The fact the DIB sucks at replacing missiles isn't a Trump/Biden problem…it's a colossal circular human centipede of bad decision making for forty years.
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A quick search shows that military missiles and rockets have between an 8 and 20 year shelf life.

This guy isn't considering the "use it or lose" aspect of the equation and where these munitions were on the shelf life timeline.
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Fix the beast. Stop complaining.
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Also hilarious how 2 months in Iran is a complete disastor that has used up our munitions stockpile but 20 years in Iraq and Afganistan wasn't a problem at all.
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eric76 said:

LMCane said:

Enjeti is a long time Israel hater and part of the Tucker Carlson foreign policy club.

for years he has simped for Russia and Iran and Syria.



the REAL answer: the USA has a @#$@# load more munitions than Iran does!

The real question is "do we have a @#$@# load more munitions than other potential adversaries do?"

ASK THE RUSSIANS
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And a bit of irony…my hunch is that CSIS is pro-defense-industry, which the "America-first" crowd claims to be the ultimate bogeyman.
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Heard similar concerns on the current state of the stockpile on this podcast with the president of Anduril. Of course he's a seller so maybe grain of salt.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/school-of-war/id1589160645?i=1000768532309
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It's ok, they were old missiles - well past their "best by" date we would have just thrown in the dumpster anyway. So it actually hasn't cost us anything to use them.
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army01 said:

At current rates, he's not wrong. It would absolutely take that long. Contracts have been signed to increase production levels, but those take time to ramp up. Couple in the pricing fluctuations of the raw material required to manufacture said munitions, the cost is increasing as well. Initial lead times will also increase as the raw mat suppliers work to increase their capacity. It's not a good situation to be in for the moment. This administration should have waited a year to launch this large of an attack (especially given last summer's Operation Midnight Hammer attack).


Israel called the shot on the timing.
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It's almost funny how many people think this is putting a dent in U.S. strike ability.

We speed up and slow down production depending on need.

If the DOW wanted to make more than we launch, we would have a surplus in a week.

Edit: I'm being facetious with the "in a week". I guess that didn't come across that way.
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If we find out what we used against Iran was technology from 20 years ago and we have stockpiles of newer and nastier weapons, I wouldn't be shocked. I wholeheartedly believe that we have weapons that very few within our own government know about that we can deploy if needed.
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