College GPAs and opportunity afterward

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combustion artist
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Hey there,
I'm curious how folks view college GPAs and their ability/inability to impact opportunities upon graduation and internships. My daughter is at UTD and started in Fall of 2020 (Covid craziness). She has struggled in part due to Covid and in part her own issues of motivation. She has a 2.2 now in marketing and had straight A's in high school with a good mix of AP classes.

Any thoughts? I've heard other parents are seeing their kids struggle as well.
The one thing she has going for here is she has always worked since she was 16 and does have a good work ethic and is smart.

With the lack of people working and so unfilled jobs, i also kind of wonder if companies just look for people with a heart beat that are willing to work and learn.

Thanks in Advance.
Bird Poo
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I think business/marketing jobs might weigh GPA more heavily for internships. My son is at Mays and the internships seem to go to the better students.
AggieAdvisor16
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In my experience in an engineering discipline, GPA really only matters for the first job. After that it's all about what you did and learned in those relevant jobs you've had. But there's no doubt that GPA is hugely important in getting internships and that first full time job. Many companies automatically deny students below a certain threshold (3.0 is common, but some are 3.5 or even higher). I did some analysis of my students a few years ago and the hiring rate differences by GPA were remarkable.

At this stage of her academic career, there's only so much she can raise it. She should certainly keep trying and start to build a track record of recent strong performance. Then she can talk to recruiters about how she "woke up" and started taking her academics seriously (as evidenced by her 3.3 GPA in the last 3 semesters, as an example). The other big thing she can do is get involved in student organizations on campus, preferably ones related to her major. Work towards a leadership position if possible. That extra curricular activity will mean a lot to many companies.
combustion artist
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thanks for thoughtful response AA16.
Another Doug
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I would focus on getting some experience in her field over everything else. If she can't get an internship , do some sort of project in the field outside of school.

Basically GPA doesn't matter as much as long as you have good things to talk about in an interview.

When looking for a full time job, don't just apply for the big boys at the career fair, but look for some smaller companies in smaller markets, as there might be less competition.

Main thing I would stress is if she wants to work in Marketing, then do everything she can to make sure her first job out of school is in the field. Because a year or two out of school it will get harder to break into it.

BTW, I got a daughter at UTD too.
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As someone who graduated with a low GPA (~2.6) in Economics I would suggest the following:

1. Don't let the low GPA affect her day-to-day, if it does it will only compound things and make her college experience stressful.

2. She will need to accept that she will not land at a big company immediately out of college. Have her focus on applying to smaller companies ( <5,000 employees).

3. If she cannot land an internship then she should look for a job related to her field of interest. Anything that can sell her industry experience to a manager after graduation will go a long way.

4. She is not the only person to have ever had a bad GPA. If there is no way to diagnose and fix the causes for underperformance, then she should at a minimum accept that college is not the real world. She has a whole future of opportunities in front of her and the first job(s) out of college will not dictate her future.
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I have worked all office jobs since graduating from college 20 years ago and I have never once been asked about my GPA. However, my husband works in medical device sales and they won't even look at hiring someone with less than a 3.5 GPA out of college in his company (or at least his division). That's what he told me anyways, but they did just hire 2 new TAMU grads and are recruiting more and they were both very high performing students. I think a lot depends on the field and the employer.
combustion artist
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It is all about the first job, proving yourself and learning what the real work world actually is.
Appreciate all the comments and really affirmation on how i'm approaching it and trying to coach her.

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