New Apple Releases

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IrishAg
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So far, the MacBook Pro and Air releases were pretty much what I expected.

The new monitors are laughable on pricing

The new MacBook Neo is very interesting though



Biggest gotcha's I see are, Touch ID only on the 512GB model, and only 8GB of RAM on either model. But education pricing starts at $499, regular people at $599. That's a hell of an option for kids these days.

On a side note, I was really hoping they would have a "student" and a professional version of this though. The is pretty much the exact same size and weight as the MacBook Air 13". I used to love the last generation of the 12" MacBooks. I used it as my travel laptop and kept the beefier one at home at my last job. That thing was 2 pounds flat and about the size of the smaller iPad Pro when closed, and it did everything I needed when I was on the road. Travel these days, I rarely get to spread out except for at the hotel, and space on airplanes seems smaller (I'm probably getting bigger) so I only use my iPad to work on a plane instead of my laptop. I would have grabbed one of these for me if it was a little lighter and had 16GB of RAM, but oh well.
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These companies have GOT to ****ing stop with these nonsense 8GB base RAM models. Absolutely kills me.

Other than that, looks like this is probably going to be a Microsoft killer in that particular space since they seem to have lost the plot lately. I don't know what they are doing anymore tbh
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Really do not need more RAM for the purpose of the Neo. My M1 Mac Mini ran perfectly fine with 8GB of RAM. The only slow down came from editing 100 megapixel photos from a rented Hasselblad X2D.
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Eliminatus said:

These companies have GOT to ****ing stop with these nonsense 8GB base RAM models. Absolutely kills me.

This is a budget laptop. Power users are not buying this. I've been using a base model M2 Mac Mini (8gb RAM) as my daily driver for the past 3 years with zero issues. I don't think its that big of a deal for this device in particular.
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Eliminatus said:

These companies have GOT to ****ing stop with these nonsense 8GB base RAM models. Absolutely kills me.


Given the current climate more companies will unfortunately be going back to 8gb models rather than eliminating them.
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$600 MacBook. Baseline features. Great pricepoint. Perfect for younger users as a get-****-done machine. This is going to sell like crazy.
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Head Ninja In Charge said:

$600 MacBook. Baseline features. Great pricepoint. Perfect for younger users as a get-****-done machine. This is going to sell like crazy.
Especially if you can offload a lot of work to AI. A basic spec like this is all you need.
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My wife's laptop is about to hit end of life and this new Macbook may bet the fix for her. Will be keeping an eye on how it is received.
Kaiser von Wilhelm
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Any thoughts on if the iPhone processor can handle the basic MacBook workloads? It's the same chip that's in my iPhone, which probably outperforms my M1 MacBook Air, but is it "good enough" considering it is being compared to a processor actually designed for a laptop/desktop? Have iphone/iPad processors gotten to the point that they are actually comparable? Or will that be a more limiting factor than the 8gb ram?
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Honestly, 8GB isn't bad for a computer to do your bills on that doesn't run Windows 11. Apple is in a good position during this memory crisis because Macs have memory swap that will eat into SSD at high demand. It's bad for the SSD, but for the target consumer they won't reach that point.

The only downside to these Macs for Apple is cannibalizing the MacBook Air, however I think Apple sees this as a iPad vs the iPad Air. iPad Air is still the best selling tablet.
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Kaiser von Wilhelm said:

Any thoughts on if the iPhone processor can handle the basic MacBook workloads? It's the same chip that's in my iPhone, which probably outperforms my M1 MacBook Air, but is it "good enough" considering it is being compared to a processor actually designed for a laptop/desktop? Have iphone/iPad processors gotten to the point that they are actually comparable? Or will that be a more limiting factor than the 8gb ram?

It's comparable to the M1 chip. When Apple first announced Apple Silicon, they released Dev Kit Mac minis that ran on iPhone chips because the M1 chips weren't ready. They blew Intel out of the water back then.

iPhone chips are more than capable to run macOS, slap a heat sink on it or vapor chamber and you got yourself desktop class performance.

8GB of ram on a Mac is different than 8GB of RAM on a Windows PC. macOS is more efficient due to its vertical integration with the hardware. If you maximize the RAM, it'll just do a memory swap to the SSD. Bad for the SSD, but if you were to see the damage later on, that's like 8 years or more.
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Pman17 said:

Kaiser von Wilhelm said:

Any thoughts on if the iPhone processor can handle the basic MacBook workloads? It's the same chip that's in my iPhone, which probably outperforms my M1 MacBook Air, but is it "good enough" considering it is being compared to a processor actually designed for a laptop/desktop? Have iphone/iPad processors gotten to the point that they are actually comparable? Or will that be a more limiting factor than the 8gb ram?

It's comparable to the M1 chip. When Apple first announced Apple Silicon, they released Dev Kit Mac minis that ran on iPhone chips because the M1 chips weren't ready. They blew Intel out of the water back then.

iPhone chips are more than capable to run macOS, slap a heat sink on it or vapor chamber and you got yourself desktop class performance.

8GB of ram on a Mac is different than 8GB of RAM on a Windows PC. macOS is more efficient due to its vertical integration with the hardware. If you maximize the RAM, it'll just do a memory swap to the SSD. Bad for the SSD, but if you were to see the damage later on, that's like 8 years or more.

Interesting. I know little about Macs. All I can say is that 8GB of RAM on a Windows machine is not remotely enough.
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Quote:

With all of that said, the A18 Pro is actually a baby M4. An M4 mini, if you will. The same chip, but with two fewer CPU cores and three fewer GPU cores.

Realistically, if Apple had rebranded the A18 Pro as an M4 mini, everyone would be happy. Or if they had called it a M1 Plus, that would be fine too and cut down on the drama.


https://appleinsider.com/articles/26/03/05/by-any-other-name-a18-pro-is-just-as-good-a-mac-chip-as-m4-for-most
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https://appleinsider.com/inside/macbook-neo/vs/macbook-neo-vs-m1-macbook-air-you-decide---m4-lite-or-m1-plus


IrishAg
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YouBet said:

Pman17 said:

Kaiser von Wilhelm said:

Any thoughts on if the iPhone processor can handle the basic MacBook workloads? It's the same chip that's in my iPhone, which probably outperforms my M1 MacBook Air, but is it "good enough" considering it is being compared to a processor actually designed for a laptop/desktop? Have iphone/iPad processors gotten to the point that they are actually comparable? Or will that be a more limiting factor than the 8gb ram?

It's comparable to the M1 chip. When Apple first announced Apple Silicon, they released Dev Kit Mac minis that ran on iPhone chips because the M1 chips weren't ready. They blew Intel out of the water back then.

iPhone chips are more than capable to run macOS, slap a heat sink on it or vapor chamber and you got yourself desktop class performance.

8GB of ram on a Mac is different than 8GB of RAM on a Windows PC. macOS is more efficient due to its vertical integration with the hardware. If you maximize the RAM, it'll just do a memory swap to the SSD. Bad for the SSD, but if you were to see the damage later on, that's like 8 years or more.

Interesting. I know little about Macs. All I can say is that 8GB of RAM on a Windows machine is not remotely enough.

On macOS, it's more than enough for just general day to day usage.
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