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Drones in wildlife surveys

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Catag94
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Any of you using or familiar with the use of drones for deer surveys?
I was on a ranch where I took a client hunting this week. While talking with the biologists for the ranch, it occurred to me that drones today should be able to do this. This particular property is slightly over 50,000 acres and is free ranging. They do a helicopter survey once a year which is a full ten hour day. I imagine that a high quality fixed wing drone with LiDAR and other technology combined with AI powered software should be able to do this and likely do it more accurately.
Hence, here I am on the OB, the one place I know that people know things in this area. What's day you OB?
mts6175
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It's illegal

https://tpwd.texas.gov/warden/law-enforcement-faq/drones-uavs#:~:text=Except%20under%20permits%20issued%20by,Land%20Owner%20Authorization%20(LOA).
Catag94
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I believe that relates to hunting activities and isn't the end all on properly licensed and permitted wildlife management properties and the surveys that are done completely outside of hunting animals. I mean, you wouldn't be allowed to hunt deer from a helicopter either, but doing counts from a helicopter at 15' above the trees as a part of an annual survey and not during hunting season, is perfectly acceptable.

Drones, I believe, could do this from higher altitudes and causing less stress on the wildlife if I'm right. I suspect it's already in practice.

Edit: here is one apparent example: https://loneoakair.com/services/wildlife/
Bluto
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Interesting. I understood it to say you can't photograph or count wildlife with a drone.

Why would they make that illegal?
AnScAggie
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The only issue with drone surveys is you have to wait until bucks are well into antler development so the thermal imagining can differentiate between male and female. I think they are much less stressful and can provide you with a more accurate count than traditional helicopter surveys. When my ranch was flown several years ago we had released some axis, blackbuck and fallow on it a little less than two months before, during the survey we only saw 2 axis and that was it. Driving around the ranch and sitting around the main house you would see them constantly. Therefore, it is hard to say that a helicopter survey is the be all end all of survey technology.
mts6175
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Quote:

Except under permits issued by Texas Parks & Wildlife Department, the use of drones to hunt, drive, capture, take, count or photograph any wildlife is unlawful. Requirements include an Aerial Management Permit (AMP) issued by TPWD and an approved Land Owner Authorization (LOA).
From what I posted.
Gunny456
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Doing 3 accurate spot light surveys on a planned route is still the best way to get an accurate count. Albeit it's very time consuming on very large acreages…..if not feasible at all. IMHO.
I have experienced doing helicopter surveys then doing three spotlight surveys on the same ranch and getting marked dissimilar results.
Also depends on the pilot and observers ability a lot.
wink1989
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Helicopter surveys are more indicative of quality of herd rather than density.
Gunny456
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INIGO MONTOYA
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Gunny - I've never heard that claim. Don't know how I'd get an accurate count on our place at all. Big brush. Any references on how this is done?

We do helicopter - I think they can vary between ok and good. Really sucks if you can't fly early cause of fog. Diminishing returns as you get into later morning. We do ours in mid-January when vegetation is down. Challenge is small spikes and fawns are harder to pick out from doe. I believe mature bucks are better at hiding but wildlife biologist doesn't think so.
skysenderos
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Hey all, just stumbled upon this thread and, as the owner of the largest thermal drone wildlife survey provider in Texas, think I can answer some of these questions.

In terms of the legality of using drones, it is perfectly legal as long as the operator conducting the survey possesses an Aerial Wildlife Management permit through TPWD (this is the same permit helicopter companies are required to hold as well). Like @Catag94 mentioned, it's very much illegal to use drones for direct hunting activities (which unfortunately currently includes recovering wounded animals in Texas), but perfectly fine to use them for surveys.

One common misconception is that deer need to be in velvet in order to collect an accurate buck/doe ratio with a drone. While this may be true if you're only using the thermal, we typically fly in the early morning or with a spotlight, which allows us to utilize the drone's thermal and visible cameras. We employ the thermal to locate the heat signatures, and then switch to a side-by-side with the visible camera to differentiate between bucks, does, exotics, etc. Here's an example of what that looks like:


We've been in business since 2023 and have seen rapid growth in the numbers of Texas landowners opting for drone surveys. In fact, we expect to fly over 400,000 acres across the state this season alone. Compared to helicopter counts, drone surveys are more accurate and, like some people mentioned earlier in this thread, are significantly less stressful for the deer. While spotlight or trail camera surveys can certainly yield good results if done correctly, they are very time and effort intensive, especially on larger properties. If anyone in interested in learning more about drone surveys, please feel free to visit our website at www.skysenderos.com
Sky Senderos Aerial Drone Game and Land Surveying
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JHShipley
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I was approved with the aerial permit for this exact purpose. Worked great and was way less disruptive to wildlife.

Used the DJI M30T setup. With the redundant batteries and long battery life, it was really ideal. Also used it for occasional fence and gate inspections a some basic orthmosaic mapping.

As I've mentioned in another thread, our place is going 100% solar next summer so the drone package is now for sale.

Here's the link to take a look:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3086481478179301/?mibextid=6ojiHh

AgLA06
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Whitetail Research in the Midwest has been putting out some interesting YouTube content using drones to study and pattern deer habits.

JHShipley
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Drone Deer Recovery on Youtube has some pretty cool videos too.


Dumb as hell that its illegal to use for recovery in Texas. Using thermal, we've been able to identify blood trails from the air.
skysenderos
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I agree that it being illegal in Texas is bad, but the state does have a decent reason for being cautious about this. We have a blog on the topic that explains everything in more detail:

https://www.skysenderos.com/blogs/thermal-drone-deer-recovery-in-texas
Sky Senderos Aerial Drone Game and Land Surveying
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ethan@skysenderos.com
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